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Stan's ZTR Flow rim (how are they holding up)??

Dwdrums00

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Mar 31, 2007
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I was wondering if anybody had any experience with these rims? I was thinking about running them on my 09 nomad in conjunction with i9 hubs, but I am not sure if they will hold up. The bike is setup with a totem and CCDB out back and is my lightweight DH/Pedal bike. I am currently running 721's (I9's) on my Intense M6 and they are holding up great. With that being said, I am thinking of running the 721's on my nomad but, I would like to save some weight if possible. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated (yes I did read the current review).
BTW I am running tubeless with Maxxis 2 ply DHF's.
 

Banshee Rider

Turbo Monkey
Jul 31, 2003
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I have them on my Reign X now, convieniently also on I9's. After two seasons on the same set, I can confidently say the following:

Advantages:
I don't recall ever burping the tire, or breaking the bead.
They roll extremely well
They always bead up with ease, regardless of the tire

Disadvantages:
-You dent them, your screwed. Your finishing your ride with a tube, because they aren't sealing. The hook is extremely shallow; a dent can easily equal a new rim.
-I have more hops in the rim than any previously hand-built mavic

Overall I like them. I run them strictly for the easy tubless set up, and low rolling resistence. I use them for extended climb/descent riding, so efficency is important. I don't run these as a 'light dh' rim, they wouldn't hold up for such purpose IMO because of the consequences of dents.
 
Oct 14, 2007
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-You dent them, your screwed.
agreed, I had a pair also. The rim is ridiculously light, it's doesn't even have any eyelets!

The normal lifetime of a Dh wheel set is set around 3 years...where as these would be quite shorter. If your the type to always buy new stuff every year, I would recommend your trying them if not then I would go with something a little stronger...
 
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Then again, I can see you don't really abuse your wheels if the 721's haven't dented yet, this being said I would try them out
 

frorider

Monkey
Jul 21, 2004
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at first when i read this thread i thought wtf -- you're kidding right?

i run the flows on my steel hardtail XC singlespeed. awesome rims for that bike. i had one tire blow off the rear rim but haven't had any issues since then.

these are minimalist rims that maximize width while keeping weight low. the bead lip is not burly -- it's the opposite of an 823 in that department. so i can't imagine running tires at low pressure on the flow. and can't imagine running it as a rear rim on a dh or fr bike.

but yeah, i suppose if you are lightweight and don't tend to taco front wheels, you could run a Flow front / 721 rear for a race wheel dh setup.
 

Zark

Hey little girl, do you want some candy?
Oct 18, 2001
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I have Flows on I9's as well on my trailbike. I just got them last week, so I can't speak to durability. For an AM bike I think they are great. Wide profile and easy tubeless setup, woot!

I'm pretty smooth on the trail, but we'll see how the hold up.
 

Dwdrums00

Monkey
Mar 31, 2007
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Wow...thanks for all the great feedback!!!! I am thinking the 721's might fit the bill a little bit better. Thanks again!
 

iRider

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Apr 5, 2008
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agreed, I had a pair also. The rim is ridiculously light, it's doesn't even have any eyelets!
Did you use brass or aluminum nipples to build the wheel?
Because they don't have eyelets I would think you only can go with brass, which offsets some of the weight savings of the rim.
 
Oct 14, 2007
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Did you use brass or aluminum nipples to build the wheel?
Because they don't have eyelets I would think you only can go with brass, which offsets some of the weight savings of the rim.
actually, i didn't uses nipples since it was laces on I9's !!! sorry



P.S.

if you live in canada i have a mint pair for sale
 

Inclag

Turbo Monkey
Sep 9, 2001
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agreed, I had a pair also. The rim is ridiculously light, it's doesn't even have any eyelets!

The normal lifetime of a Dh wheel set is set around 3 years...where as these would be quite shorter. If your the type to always buy new stuff every year, I would recommend your trying them if not then I would go with something a little stronger...
If I could go through less than 3 rims a season at 28+ psi I'd be happy....
 

Smelly

Turbo Monkey
Jun 17, 2004
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I've had a pair on my trailbike for a year now. They're holding up just fine, despite some dings. I'm running them with tubes and Maxxis Advantage 2.4's on a RFX. Go for them if you want something light and reasonably sturdy.
 

balfarider22

Chimp
Feb 20, 2008
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Lansing, New York
i completely swear by these rims. i have been running them on both my dh race bike and my trail bike for the past year with no problems what so ever. no dents, dings, or flat spots. havent burped a tire yet. always inflate super easy with new tires and they are crazy light! and dont try and say that i obviously havent riden them hard if they dont have any dents... i pretty much only ride at plattekill, and those of you who know what its like there know its not nice to wheels. also im not the lightest guy in the world, i weigh 160.
so in my opinion get the flows over any other rim.
 

bushrider

Monkey
Jul 4, 2006
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NYC
Plattekill is not nasty on wheels.
Diablo is nasty on wheels.

Diablo is nasty rocks in hard packed dirt (rocks dont move) on most of the natural DH style trail the majority of the trail surface is littered in baby heads that you pretty much have no choice but to suck up.

Plattekill has a few rock gardens on each run but the majority of the trail surface is soft dirt. I drop my tire pressure when I ride plattekill and have never flatted there.

Plattekill has a well earned hardcore reputation but its not particularly rocky.

I have not ridden the Flows but I would be very surprised if such a light rim would hold up to Diablo. My 823s have done 1 season riding every WE at either diablo or platty and I have several small flat spots on the front and rear (very slight on the front). Thats running 28 psi Front/ 32 psi rear minimum (I'm 190lbs). I would try the flow for DH as a front rim. I plan to replace the front rim on my light DH bike with a flow over the off season.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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I've had mine on my trail bike (05 Enduro) for about a season and a half now. I ride 2-3x/week, weigh 210lbs (w/o gear) and live in Ottawa, riding the rougher rockier trails around here (think Bromont-ish terrain). I run a Schwalbe Albert in the front and a Maxxis High Roller in the back (both UST). These are the sturdiest rims I've ever owned. There's a slight wobble in the rear rim now, but they haven't been trued at all this year... I had problems pinch flatting a lot before going tubeless, and have burped it once (I landed a foot and a half drop a little crooked), but was able to pop it back on and re-inflate it with my hand pump....

I like them and highly recommend them...