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Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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No, we don't have a winner, we have another fool wearing black and white blinders. You do it where the demographics demonstrate that it makes sense. It'll make sense for about a generation, until assimilation completes, then you stop doing it.
Right. Do we start translating everything into Arakanese (the 266th most widely spoken language worldwide according to wikipedia) just in case one of the 950,000 people who speak it as their native language wants to read it?
 

CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
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So at what point do we stop printing things in English? If demographics demonstrate that English is not needed(English is used about as much as French in other areas) we might as well not bother with it.
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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No, we don't have a winner, we have another fool wearing black and white blinders. You do it where the demographics demonstrate that it makes sense. It'll make sense for about a generation, until assimilation completes, then you stop doing it.
So areas with more cultural diversity have to pay for making their cities/regions bilingual friendly (in terms of signage, which languages you with which you can conduct business, printing documents, etc)? And where is that money going to come from? Oh wait, taxes. I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to pay higher taxes to accommodate people who are too lazy to learn the language of a country they CHOSE to move to.

Do you really think that by making things bilingual (signage, businesses, etc) that the issue will go away in a generation? IMO, no, that won't happen. I think that doing so will only prolong the issue. Instead of helping non-native english speakers learn the language, it will make it easier for them to operate day to day by enabling them to continue to use their native language.



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...until assimilation completes...

wtf are you, the Borg??





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So areas with more cultural diversity have to pay for making ... e to use their native language.
They pay something and they gain something. We all gain more than we pay. Read up on the history of other periods of immigration. If you push the issue off in a corner, don't reach out as a society to the newcomers, you get what's going on in Europe, not pretty.
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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So areas with more cultural diversity have to pay for making their cities/regions bilingual friendly (in terms of signage, which languages you with which you can conduct business, printing documents, etc)? And where is that money going to come from? Oh wait, taxes. I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to pay higher taxes to accommodate people who are too lazy to learn the language of a country they CHOSE to move to.

Do you really think that by making things bilingual (signage, businesses, etc) that the issue will go away in a generation? IMO, no, that won't happen. I think that doing so will only prolong the issue. Instead of helping non-native english speakers learn the language, it will make it easier for them to operate day to day by enabling them to continue to use their native language.
Do you think the white race is supporting Latinos and Asians financially?

And I like this "lazy" bit, like it is super easy to pick a new language. How many languages do you speak?
 

jonKranked

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Do you think the white race is supporting Latinos and Asians financially?
Not directly, but I don't have the welfare statistics handy. Don't interpret this as me saying that all Latinos and Asians are on welfare, but there are some. There are also whites and blacks on welfare too. Being white has nothing to do with it, I'm referring to natural born, English speaking US citizens (whether you're black, white, yellow, pink, purple, green, or blue).

And I like this "lazy" bit, like it is super easy to pick a new language. How many languages do you speak?
Did you mean "pick up" a new language?

There's a difference between not being very good at a language, and flat out not trying to learn it and expecting others to cater to you.

In terms of languages, English is my native, I can speak some Spanish, a teeny bit of Italian, and very poor Mandarin. I picked up the Italian because I went to Italy, and Mandarin because I was in Hong Kong & China for business at the beginning of '08. How about you?
 

Austin Bike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Duh, Austin
You used mandarin in HK? They speak cantonese there for the most part.

As for welfare, there are more whites on welfare than any other group. This is because there are more whites than any other group. However, if you look at the percentage by race, you will find that some other races have a higher per capita incidence of welfare.

Most people are on welfare for less than 2 years.

The vision that many have of a single black mother with multiple children that has been on welfare all her life and never had a job is a stereotype, not a reality. I'm sure they are out there, but if you look at the stats, it's a small minority.

As for language, I'm all for making english the standard language if people could LEARN HOW TO READ AND WRITE ENGLISH.

Your and you're are not the same word.

You can't ax me a question.

I have phone screened a lot of people over the years, mainly for lower-level sales jobs. If you can't speak right on the phone, you are never going to go anywhere in life.

The correlation between language and welfare is that people on welfare have a higher probability (in my opinion) of not being able to speak english properly.
 

AngryMetalsmith

Business is good, thanks for asking
Jun 4, 2006
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I have phone screened a lot of people over the years, mainly for lower-level sales jobs. If you can't speak right on the phone, you are never going to go anywhere in life.
You talk right and speak properly.

But if you want to combine talking American with speaking English in the same paragraph for demonstrative purposes, then creative license is acceptable.
 

BMXman

I wish I was Canadian
Sep 8, 2001
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this thread needs to get moved...but I vote we all speak in sign language it's the only language that's the same no matter where you go...and added bonus is I wouldn't have to read all this whining BS :)
 

pinkshirtphotos

site moron
Jul 5, 2006
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Texas is the only state in the Union that can separate and become its own country. I say Texas becomes its own country again. I have no relations to the morans in Texas.



PS: I know I spelt moron "moran"
 

pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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great, coOkies brother's uncle's niece's third aunt from the fourth inbred mother of it's distant grandfather's man whore bitch's first sister has been busy, it seems.

i hate you all.
 

pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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but nice of all of you 'intelligent' office people to take over seven pages of self amusement to suddenly come to the 'collective conclusion' that ya'll truely and desperately can only humbley wish you were wearing spurs and a sh!tkicker hat, both of which i can wear while single handedly handing the likes of loco chumpo or any other known similar overweight micro fungal organism their fat ass on any bike, any day, and then go cow tippin' phur ammoosements.

keep talking fat boy, just make sure you bring it come time just like you never have.

ahh, i feel better.
 

loco-gringo

Crusading Clamp Monkey
Sep 27, 2006
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Deep in the heart of TEXAS
You really should give up weed.
He didn't get that stupid smoking weed. :think:

He's a half step away from those D & D nerds in the woods fighting with foam swords while they wear vampire fangs. Again, not because of the weed. It's just his lot in life. Expect very little from him and you'll be less disappointed. He'll still bash what little minuscule glimmer of hope you have created for him in your mind, but it's more bearable.
 

pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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He didn't get that stupid smoking weed. :think:

He's a half step away from those D & D nerds in the woods fighting with foam swords while they wear vampire fangs. Again, not because of the weed. It's just his lot in life. Expect very little from him and you'll be less disappointed. He'll still bash what little minuscule glimmer of hope you have created for him in your mind, but it's more bearable.
whomever may be the targeted audience is of that belch most certainly is a moran.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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Speaking of morans, I wish Zoro (or someone like him) would pipe up and explain why Quebec separation is a good idea....a how they would still somehow be entitled to use the canadian dollar, the postal system etc....
 

BMXman

I wish I was Canadian
Sep 8, 2001
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Speaking of morans, I wish Zoro (or someone like him) would pipe up and explain why Quebec separation is a good idea....a how they would still somehow be entitled to use the canadian dollar, the postal system etc....
yeah from what I have read they want to be separate and not take on any of Canada's debt or the myriad of others issues they helped contribute to:crazy:
 

pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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well me fellow monkynites, if it's okay with you all, a change in direction..chump-o, try and keep up.

ith freakin' somewhat windy with gusts of more wind! hey chump-o, you need me to slow down and just say the words: oh oh, ahah!!

26.16 miles, 1.52.04 ride time - weird, my cadence now is at zero :brow:-, average was 14.0.

not to discuss what is what regarding those numbers, but if i were to say that i was interested in riding long distance road, say centuries and a whole hella bunch of 'em, would any or nay of you say that the tarmac is in the realm of possible good choices? seriously, i know she's a fast roadie but sometimes like now, my back hurts, lower back. i know i have a lot more time in the saddle and a lot of pain ahead of me to get back into athletic body form which is the goal here cuz let's just face facts, the only way to be is on top of one's game, not to be a cyclist but it is just happening as i go along, but as my body changes as it is doing so, i bit slower than when and what i first had anticipated, will the bike be the right one to upgrade the componentry on or should i start looking for something else in the way of frame? any of you had similar experiences?

thanks.
 
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pumpkinator

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Dec 4, 2008
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should i reiterate? it's as if the geomentry of this bike is meant for shorter, straight up criterium races as it's pushing me further back and i'm tucked in while on the other hand some of the cycle folk i've noticed around whil on their LoOK or Orbea road bikes seem to be more ontop of the front of their bike and facing forward with the crank almost behind them while i sit perched a bit more on top of the crank and leaned in.
 

pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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and i knew going into this that the bike was a crit type ride but the roubaix sucked sick nuts, all driving miss daisy-ish sucking occurred while on that piece-o-crap and not the new sl or whatever either but the older style roubaix, before they changed it up and made the geomotry almost exactly like the tarmac.

ack.
 
Oct 8, 2005
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I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to pay higher taxes to accommodate people who are too lazy to learn the language of a country they CHOSE to move to.
Sometimes its not that they don't want to learn, i've talked with a few guys that came back from the US were they worked as farmers (they were legal immigrants), and most of them told me their employers made everything they could to stop their employees from learning english.
Inside their local wallmart there was at least a pair of spanish speaking employees to help the customers and because they made at least the 80% of their money spending in wallmart there was no need to learn english (i've been told that they lived inside the farm, which was at leas an hour away form the nearest town). They also told me there was a priest that came to the farms and for a few days tried to teach english until the employer told him to stop coming.

You also have to remember most of the illegal immigrants can't read, write or even speak in spanish, and they just want to earn enough $ to send it back to Mexico, or make a living so maybe spending a day in school is not an option.
 

MMike

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Sep 5, 2001
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Ok how about this. I'm a legal native canadian. Born/raised in Quebec. I do speak french quite well by most standards. But PERFECTLY bilingual, not really.

Now English and french are both official languages in Canada. However there are MANY government forms and services that you can ONLY get in french. Some of them are actually pretty important and somewhat complex. They would actually quite difficult to decipher in your mother tongue, let alone a second language.

It is a well known, and yet somehow accepted fact that "anglos" as we are known, are discriminated against quite freely and openly. And again, it's not like we've just stepped off a boat from somewhere. We were born here.

It's pretty messed up.
 
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pumpkinator

Monkey
Dec 4, 2008
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one last tid bit on the bike, i dropped the bars all the way down and mmm, smoothness. now i can hover aggressively forward in a bit more of a comfort fit. not too mention my body produces angles in which are now conclusive as to the 'pull' aspect as well as the 'push'.

actually it's all about the constant spin but you know what i mean, don't you Loco? :lighten:
 

MTBstud12

Monkey
Jan 24, 2008
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Tejas
All air traffic control tower employees speak English.
Not that it matters, just interesting.

I don't have anything to really add this morning.
That's up for debate. They speak it I'm sure, but the real question is, how well?

I've heard of a few instances of bad sh*t happening on runways due to accents getting in the way. But, kudos for them doing their best.
 

Austin Bike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Duh, Austin
If you think about it, there are probably no more than ~300 words that they would actually have to know in English. And they use those same words over and over and over and over and over and over and over every day.

I fly around the world and haven't had any close calls (that I know of) overseas, but have had several here in the US.
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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If you think about it, there are probably no more than ~300 words that they would actually have to know in English. And they use those same words over and over and over and over and over and over and over every day.

I fly around the world and haven't had any close calls (that I know of) overseas, but have had several here in the US.
suck
f***
duck

maybe add 10 more words for effect.