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CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
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With Chuck Norris as president who would be stupid enough to fight them?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/16/texas-governor-says-secession-possible/

(CNN) — Texas Gov. Rick Perry isn't ruling out the possibility his state may one day secede from the nation.

Speaking to an energetic and angry tea party crowd in Austin Wednesday evening, the Lone Star State governor suggested secession may happen in the future should the federal government not change its fiscal polices.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Perry, who is beginning to gear up for what could be a challenging re-election race, rejected more than $500 million in federal stimulus funds earlier this year and has been highly critical of President Obama's stimulus package.

His comments come a week after endorsing a resolution in the Texas state House reasserting state sovereignty over federal mandates.

Specifically it states that "all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed."

Texas, America's second biggest state in area and population, was its own nation for 10 years before joining the United States in 1845.

Should Texas one day secede, one man may already be vying to be its president. Actor Chuck Norris said last month he may be interested in the post.

“I may run for president of Texas,” Norris wrote in a column posted at WorldNetDaily. “That need may be a reality sooner than we think. If not me, someone someday may again be running for president of the Lone Star state, if the state of the union continues to turn into the enemy of the state.”
 

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
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Dont lett he door hit you in the ass on your way out...but leave some of the women, and some Shiner Bock...
Shiner Bock...Pearl beer with a fancy label.

Perry was using that for a political grandstanding stunt. It's been in the Texas constitution since 1845. They have always maintained that right, right along with the right to fly the state flag at the same height as the US Flag.

Kinda embarrassing, and I'm still technically a Texan by virtue of owning land.
 

CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
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It is one thing to maintain the right, it is another to constantly talk about exercising that right.
 

CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
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The Ranch
If you believe Wikipedia:

Urban legend

It is a common urban legend that the Texas flag is the only state flag that is allowed to fly at the same height as the U.S. flag. Allegedly, Texas has this right inherently (as a former independent nation) or because it negotiated special provisions when it joined the Union (this version has been stated as fact on a PBS website[8]). However, the legend is false. Neither the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States nor the Ordinance of Annexation[9] contain any provisions regarding flags. According to the United States Flag Code, any state flag can be flown at the same height as the U.S. flag; the U.S. flag should be on its right (the viewer's left), however. Consistent with the U.S. Flag Code, the Texas Flag Code specifies that the state flag should either be flown below the U.S. flag if on the same pole or at the same height as the U.S. flag if on separate poles.[3]
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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the only news i'm really interested in hearing out of texas is if shrub falls down a well and no one rescues him or if he manages to cut off both legs and a arm clearing brush on the ranch...
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Let Texas, Florida and the rest of the gulf coast secede. Imagine how much money we would save in social security, medicade and disaster recovery?
 

Cant Climb

Turbo Monkey
May 9, 2004
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Can we have our highways back.......?

Wonder how Texas is going to finance an Army.....?........might get a bit expensive....:monkey:
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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According to this, Texas is about even: http://www.taxfoundation.org/press/show/22659.html

I wish we could get rid of the hangers-on, but Texas is a good enough place to start the experiment.
if we can't get texas to secede so i can join them, maybe we can figure out how to set off the fault lines and get cali out in the ocean. the 9th circuit is about as "american" as Creme brulee.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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if we can't get texas to secede so i can join them, maybe we can figure out how to set off the fault lines and get cali out in the ocean. the 9th circuit is about as "american" as Creme brulee.
The 9th circuit just incorporated the 2nd Amendment FWIW.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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SF, CA
The 9th circuit just incorporated the 2nd Amendment FWIW.
It won't do you no good. We know that seeing the words "9th circuit..." makes anything manimal sees after read "...wants to steal your guns and give your kids the gay."
 

kidwoo

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It won't do you no good. We know that seeing the words "9th circuit..." makes anything manimal sees after read "...wants to steal your guns and give your kids the gay."
I'm just glad there are those like manimal around. Having spent so little time in the state, I appreciate his and others' ability to have such strong opinions based on minimal knowledge of the state. You and I are just too close.

No perspective really.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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No perspective really.
It's hard to have perspective while I'm on the meth I bought selling confiscated guns back to the state and busy cornholing 6-year-olds as part of their state-mandated sex education that I provide because affirmative action got me this teaching position.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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Orange County, CA
I'm just glad there are those like manimal around. Having spent so little time in the state, I appreciate his and others' ability to have such strong opinions based on minimal knowledge of the state. You and I are just too close.

No perspective really.
Don't ever bring up Berkeley either. Hotbed of liberal filth.

Nevermind they have an unrepentant war criminal as a professor in the their law school...
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
10,840
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Orange County, CA
It's hard to have perspective while I'm on the meth I bought selling confiscated guns back to the state and busy cornholing 6-year-olds as part of their state-mandated sex education that I provide because affirmative action got me this teaching position.
You converted to Catholicism? Welcome to the ranks of the non-Jew. Did your membership kit come in the mail yet?
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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Blindly running into cactus
I'm just glad there are those like manimal around. Having spent so little time in the state, I appreciate his and others' ability to have such strong opinions based on minimal knowledge of the state. You and I are just too close.

No perspective really.
nope, none at all. just the 5 years that i lived there. :D ( i actually love SoCA, i'm just poking fun at the usually whacked out 9th circuit; i'd still be in socal if i never wanted to have a house)

and mikeD...when i read the arizona v. gant judgement this week i could've sworn it was something from the 9th...but i realized it wasn't just a bad dream and the supreme court justices have had a corky moment on a 27 year standard.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
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AZ v Gant makes some sense if you look at it from the perspective of a car being an environment with limited REP rather than a piece of property in subject's possession at time of arrest. From what I understand, you can search if you have reasonable suspicion there's further evidence of the crime for which subject was arrested, which isn't too out of order. It does limit what's a typically good source of evidence for unrelated criminal activity.

If there's unrelated evidence of criminal activity in the car, which you know you often find, the inventory should take care of that, right...? It's not as expedient as just tossing the car in the search incident to arrest, but it works.



And the incorporation of the 2A really does surprise me, especially in the face of the 2nd circuit rejecting incorporation. This will have to be resolved nationwide via another SCOTUS case...I bet the NRA is trying to push one into Washington as we speak so that the court which ruled on Heller will get to ensure their ruling has meaning...
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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Yeah but let's be honest. How much can you really learn about the 9th circuit at 19 years old while bouncing back and forth between base and the strip clubs?
i suppose the fact that i was a young 20 something, married with a kid off base, and performing all of the legal pre-adjudication paperwork on the 19 year olds who got in trouble while bouncing back and forth between the base and strip clubs. i spent my time in the water or on the trail.

sorry, your assumption that i was the typical jarhead getting drunk and picking fights at the strip club just wasn't me. The only strip club i've ever been to was because i was there to break up a fight. i never planned on becoming a cop but i did pay attention to how opposite CA court decisions were compared to the rest of the country; some good, some bad.

the 2nd amendment incorporation is rather intriguing. it's like opposite day or something between the SC and the 9th circuit ;)
 
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kidwoo

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i suppose the fact that i was a young 20 something, married with a kid off base, and performing all of the legal pre-adjudication paperwork on the 19 year olds who got in trouble while bouncing back and forth between the base and strip clubs. i spent my time in the water or on the trail.

sorry, your assumption that i was the typical jarhead getting drunk and picking fights at the strip club just wasn't me. The only strip club i've ever been to was because i was there to break up a fight. i never planned on becoming a cop but i did pay attention to how opposite CA court decisions were compared to the rest of the country; some good, some bad.
My goodness.

And all this time left over for deep introspection of the surrounding culture.

Just admit it. Early 20 somethings don't know shlt. I didn't. Neither did you. The strip club comment was a jab at your surroundings not you personally. You're opinion of california is no different than someone who has never LIVED here (ie: payed taxes, voted, owned property etc.)..........and remarkably similar to the california that people like hannity try to paint.


EDIT: rosie o'donnel


EDIT EDIT: sean penn

EDIT EDIT EDIT: booga booga
 
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ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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Also, there's a couple different Californias. Spend your time palm springs, san diego and orange county, and you might mistake it for Utah.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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Also, there's a couple different Californias. Spend your time palm springs, san diego and orange county, and you might mistake it for Utah.
There are more black people in Utah...

There is something about the county line the keeps them out of Orange County. I used to live in Long Beach, right across the river, and the only real difference was that there were black people on one side, and no black people on the other side.

Mexicans are ubiquitous, of course. Someone has to drive the Astro Vans...
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
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Also, there's a couple different Californias. Spend your time palm springs, san diego and orange county, and you might mistake it for Utah.
Swingers aren't quite the same as polygamists...
 

kidwoo

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Swingers aren't quite the same as polygamists...
The 9th circuit ruled on an all inclusive case where beasiality, glory holes, and cabbage patch kids were all granted the same god given right of the holy matrimony back in '97. I'm pretty sure the swingers got in there too.....that might have been the 'coke hookup legality case of '76 as well however. I lose track. Either way, the swingers can take our tax money for welfare and butt aids. Not quite as christian and joseph smith's followers engaging in the very moral practice of collecting 9 year olds, but hey, a harem is a harem and they all deserve our respect and welcome into the community.
 

moff_quigley

Why don't you have a seat over there?
Jan 27, 2005
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Just saw a commercial on the Travel Channel for Texas tourism...tagline was something like "Texas, whole another country." :rofl: