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Lube questions - slick honey, float fluid, etc

Udi

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Mar 14, 2005
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Looking to try some new bushing and seal lube products in my fork, got a couple of questions.

1. Slick Honey vs Rock'n'Roll Super Slick - has anyone tried both and liked one more than the other, and why?

2. Float Fluid vs. Red Rum - is it the same? I've read that they are both Torco MPZ Assembly Lube (which is red); this could hold true for Red Rum, but the Float Fluid is blue. What gives? I've also read about people using 80wt gear oil instead of the above, but are those products really that thick?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Obviously the products in 1. are for the seals and 2. are for lower/bushing lube.
 

DirtyMike

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Aug 8, 2005
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I have always been a fan of the first two. Slick honey and Rocknroll are sticky enough to stay put, but damn slippery where they are supposed to be. Never had a reason to try anything else seeing how those two work so well. As far as which one I choose, whichever is in stock at the time I need it. They both work great. Never about using 80w, thats going to be sticky and thick.remember its a hypoid oil, not meant for suspension in the first place.
 

A.P

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Nov 21, 2005
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I have a tube of slick honey, and every time i rebuilt my fork with it, it always feels like crap. I don't use it anymore. Whenever I use it for seal-lube, it literally feels like..well..honey. Like as in the rebound slows pretty substantially, and the fork totally looses small bump sensitivity...it's too gooey and feels like its gumming up in there. Ive varied the amounts used (from too much to almost nothing) and have had equally poor results. Everyone else claims it rocks, so maybe I have a bad tube? I always end up using whatever the pedro's syn grease, maybe thinned with a little float flud.



For the lowers, I have both redrum and float fluid, and I feel the float fluid is a little better. I usually mix it with whatever suspension oil is laying around, to thin it out a little. It might not last as long as if it were thicker, but I change it quite often and feel it works a little better (especially when cold).
 

Udi

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Thanks.

DirtyMike - The first two are for greasing the seals, but you need an oil product for the lowers. That's why I asked about the other two (and I know nothing about them which is why I'm curious what they actually rebadge so I could obtain some data).

A.P - That's interesting. Everyone I've spoken to has raved about the stuff too, always good to hear negatives though.
 

Jonny5

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sounds like it may have gone off in the tube. My tub always has a slick of oil on the top, quick stir and its ready to use.
 

Udi

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What are your choices for boxxers Jonny? Lowers and seals

I'm no grease expert, but better quality greases shouldn't separate in storage right?
 

DirtyMike

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Well, My Marzocchi fork uses the fork oil in the lowers. as far as cartridge type, I have always just used what comes in the Manf kit, I dont have any type of a preference.



As far as grease separating, most all grease can do that. I see it all the time in automotive, our five gallon bucket of axle grease does it too. So does my synthetic caliper grease, my silicone grease, its pretty normal to see
 

S.K.C.

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Feb 28, 2005
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For the seals I swear by Slick Honey - amazing stuff. I had an 05' Marz 888 RC and after buttering up the seals with this stuff stiction was greatly reduced. It doesn't dry out too quickly and as said before - stays where you put it. Keep in mind that if your fork has stiction or feels like ass when cycling through travel it may be that the bushing tolerances are too tight and need a re-fit or sizing. No amount of Slick Honey or Crisco will fix that.
 

iRider

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Apr 5, 2008
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For the seals I prefer Prep M from Manitou (made by Motorex). It is really thick but once the fork starts moving it becomes really thin. You also can use it to lubricate the bushings but have to rebuild your fork frequently because obviously it doesn't flow back like oil does. Did this on the old Dorado and had no problem with leaking seals this way. :lighten:
 

JohnnyC

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Feb 10, 2006
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I've used Super slick grease for years on most of my forks and its always worked great, RockShox military grease is pretty good too. I've never used Slick honey but since its designed for paintball guns I imagine its similar to military grease.

Red Rum turns pretty thick in cold weather on its own but I usually mix it 50/50 with some 10wt (or whatever) fork oil and its worked sweet. I've found Float Fluid fantastic on O-rings in air chambers but never used it in the lowers. It doesn't seem as thick as Red Rum either
 

Patan-DH

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Jun 9, 2007
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For seals i have good luck using Motorex Bike Grease 2000, it is sticky so the semi bath oil won't take it off.
For the semi bath I use Motul 2,5w fork oil, it is very light (like water) and was not even expensive here.
 

Jonny5

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Feb 13, 2007
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What are your choices for boxxers Jonny? Lowers and seals

I'm no grease expert, but better quality greases shouldn't separate in storage right?
I guess over time they might. Its only a little skim on the slick honey I have. Works great. I use red rum or 25 weight in the lowers.
 
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Has anybody else used Super Slick Rock & Roll Grease? Or Judy Butter for that matter for their forks?

dave p mentioned in another post: Mobill 1 synth is a NLGI #2 GC - LB grease (thick) designed for auto bearings and joints and it is red in color.

is this the same as Rock & Roll Red Devil Grease?
 

Udi

RM Chief Ornithologist
Mar 14, 2005
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I decided to go with the R&R super slick and it seems pretty good. Probably want to give me a month before I can say what it's like in the long term, so far so good though.