I like the point one racing pedals over the canfield. They look much more polished and thought out. really good innovation imo.
www.pointoneracing.com
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E13 pedals spotted!
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As no one on this forum has a pair yet, it's kinda difficult to base opinions on anything else!
if it looks good, it flies good, etc
The pin system is pretty ingenious in my eyes.
Exactly. The point I was really trying to convey is that people shouldn't write off a product based solely on looks. But then again this is the innernetz.
Fixed it for you.
If it doesn't look good to monkey's then it must suck.
If you guys don't like them then don't buy them. DW and the E13 crew isn't making you buy them. There are plenty of pedals on the market to suit multiple tastes. Buy what you want not what the internet tell you to buy.
I'll definitely give them a try before basing an opinion. E13 has yet to disappoint me so I am excited to see what these have to offer as my first platform pedal in 5 years.
Why does everyone think that picture makes them look hammered? They look pretty cherry to me, just have dots of water on them.
One riding area that I've been hitting recently has had me considering trying out flats again because it's so steep and so loose (been riding DH clipped in for the last few years), and when I give the whole 5.10's/long pins a try, I find it's actually faster for me to get my foot out from clips then it is to try and get my foot UP off the pins, sideways, then down rather than just yanking my foot out and down with the clip-ins. The benefit would come from getting back onto the pedal safely and sooner and more reliably. I just laugh anytime I hear the argument "well clips don't let you get your feet off the pedal as fast".
One riding area that I've been hitting recently has had me considering trying out flats again because it's so steep and so loose (been riding DH clipped in for the last few years), and when I give the whole 5.10's/long pins a try, I find it's actually faster for me to get my foot out from clips then it is to try and get my foot UP off the pins, sideways, then down rather than just yanking my foot out and down with the clip-ins. The benefit would come from getting back onto the pedal safely and sooner and more reliably. I just laugh anytime I hear the argument "well clips don't let you get your feet off the pedal as fast".
I end up taking forever to get them back on and back into a comfortable position. That's why I like my clips.
Baldy? Gordon?
Arf??
How so?
I'm not so keen on these E13 pedals, they just look like cheap, tacky plastic pap to me, easily scuffed and gashed - as seen in the pics of the protos there, which even have a bust pin already, sure, same as any pedal would but these pedals just look naff and will quickly get tatty. Too many parts invloved - breakage. I'm not sure disposable plastic platform parts is a good idea, but this is all my opinion (and purely based on looks atm). 20mm deep (or was it 22mm?) is not exactly low profile. I bet they won't be cheap either!?
Pedals take more of a beating than any other component and these look like they won't last long.
I'd easily buy the Canfield Crampons - they look absolutely awesome, and proper low profile!
Feel free to flame. I like E13 stuff - big fan of the SRS+, but these pedals? Meh...
Wouldn't have guessed. Why do you prefer wrench flats over allen head?
I haven't had a pedal on so tight I needed 18" of leverage in probably a decade or more.
I'm a fan of 8mm pedals with no wrench flats too - is what the superstars are. Lighter & better imho.
Gridds: the pins are threaded into the metal bit. When you bend one over the plastic is going to take the bending force, so it's only the unthreaded hole in the plastic that will be damaged. I presume the bit of the pin sticking through the plastic and into your foot is thinner than the threaded part too. So, straighten pin up, and it'll still be easily removable if you feel you need to replace it.
Gridds: the pins are threaded into the metal bit. When you bend one over the plastic is going to take the bending force, so it's only the unthreaded hole in the plastic that will be damaged. I presume the bit of the pin sticking through the plastic and into your foot is thinner than the threaded part too. So, straighten pin up, and it'll still be easily removable if you feel you need to replace it.
I would think the pedal belongs to an US East Coast rider. It that is the case it looking good and holding up very well. It sure rockey here and much much more rockey than the UK and pedals looks trashed in no time.
Those pedals have 10 months on them and we have switched out platforms a couple times to test different materials. They are performing exactly as planned, and we expect that they should last for many seasons.
For the naysayers; don't sweat it. They are not available, and they won't be until we are ready to build production versions. There are plenty of other pedals out there.
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Any mechanic that is worth a damn in my opinion would rather you a 8mm allen key on the backside of the spindle rather than a pedal wrench. Pedal wrenches get chewed up and wadded out over time, not to mention the biggest problem of allowing people to over torque the living hell out of the pedals. Which in turn makes it a pain to get them off as well as destroy cranks that dont use a steel pedal insert.
Also ive never been a big fan or e13 stuff, that said these pedals do seem to be cutting edge, having a surface that is made out of a high impact polymer it ideal if you want to add impact resistance while lowering the weight, not to mention when you hit normal alum, or mag pedals hard enough to gouge them on rocks and such then tend to come to a stop sending your foot off the pedal, these seem like then will allow you slide over them much in the same way as a poly-bashguard does. Just my .02
Also ive never been a big fan or e13 stuff, that said these pedals do seem to be cutting edge, having a surface that is made out of a high impact polymer it ideal if you want to add impact resistance while lowering the weight, not to mention when you hit normal alum, or mag pedals hard enough to gouge them on rocks and such then tend to come to a stop sending your foot off the pedal, these seem like then will allow you slide over them much in the same way as a poly-bashguard does. Just my .02
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I refuse to use the search function 
will we see the kids taking the pins out of one side and putting rails/grind boxes on downhill/slope-style trails?
i will be trying these at some point (with pins in both sides)
i will be trying these at some point (with pins in both sides)
More than anything they are to allow for longer life and durability of the bearings/bushings. In my experience with pedals in DH applications impacts will smoke bearings since brinelling will occur when you reach the elastic limit of the bearing ring material. In other pedal applications, wear appears to be due to a combination of normal fatigue, corrosion, contamination, and lack of lubrication. A plastic exoskeleton will reduce the impact force on the bearings. Since force is defined by m*(delta v/delta t) you can see that dissipating energy over a longer period of time has a significant effect on force. I'm sure the pedals will function as well as some of the other higher end conventional pedals out there based on e.13's track record, but my personal opinion is that it makes the pedal and manufacturing of it more intricate all for what I perceive as minor problems. Replace a plastic exoskeleton that increases pedal cost or replace bearings/bushings for $5? I guess there are alot of end users that would rather replace something less trivial than a bearing.
The pins should nullify "most" sliding properties that a good bit of people will assume they have, however I bet they will perform a good deal better on "side scrapes" than the current crop of conventional flats which is a huge positive IMHO, the newer super slim pedals notwithstanding.
BTW, I think the industrial design of the proto pedals looks incredible. Really slick
Just curious, why does a flat pedal have to last long? With reasonable maintenance you get 2-3 years out of a pair MG-1s and they are so cheap you just replace the pedal after that. Even if you destroy them after one year you still get your money's worth. The only advantage I see in the e.13 pedals is that the plastic helps them slide over rocks better than aluminum/magnesium. Similar to the Supercharger. Dunno if the pins neglect this feature though.
With no maintenance I'm still using a set of 636's 12 years later. Many shoes killed, nothing wrong with the pedal at all.
Why design a part to fail after a certain amount of time, especially one you depend on to get down the hill in one piece?
I've got the same pedals. I've had to put new axle bearings in, but that's it.
You are riding the same bike 12 years later as well? As you said, you really depend on the pedal and a failure would be bad during a run. And if you build on the edge of lightweight I rather switch pedals more often than taking the risk of them to fail. And even the best material fatigues at some point.
Non of my pedals failed to date, but after some time they go on the commuter or are spares in case I need them. Saftey first, right?
Those are probably on Heikki's bike. He has been on them for awhile now.
DW, do you have a "guestimate" when these might be available?
Sweet! I'm gonna rip off the idea and get D13 uber-pedals out into the market first then
Yes those pedals were on my bike. Those Dirt guys are sneaky. My bike couldnt have been left in the e*thirteen/ Sliverfish pits for much more than an hour. I checked the Dirt Mag website that evening and I knew that this thread was going to appear.
Those pedals have been on my bike for over ten months now and they had a significant ammount of riding time on them before I got them. They were debuted at the US Open over a year ago and they went into significant testing right after that. As far as I am concerned the pedals hold up astoundingly well. With how low the BB is on some of the bikes on the bikes that I have ridden the past couple of years I have put a thrashing on pedals. I have ridden just about every decent flat pedal on the market and so far these are lasting 3-4 times longer than anything else that I have tried.
About the pins, obviously I tend to like longer pins than most. Those are long, probably about twice as high as they are planned or need to be for "production". Its just a preferance thing, much shorter pins get the job done just as well, but when the bike starts bouncing around at higher speeds the longer pins help me stay connected with the bike much better.
agreed. i want spikes!
Riiight, thanks I seen what he said BUT I wasn't looking for how many seconds since EPOCH until they will release but more like this year or not. If not this year I am gonna buy a different platform pedal and will not consider holding out.
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deduction skills, per dw:
buy some other pedals
deduction skills, per dw:
buy some other pedals
