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New FSA Derailleur

Inclag

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Is that a rack and pinion derailleur or belt?

Not really sure how I feel about that, but go ahead and patent away...
 
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remember in the 90s when everyone made some dumb colored rear mech that cost 100s of dollars and was cnced and really cool looking...well they all failed but thought they could make one better than shimano

imo - this is just dumb to sink money and r&d into. shimano and sram. case closed
 

ChrisKring

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Jan 30, 2002
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I have one of those Paul deraileurs. Pretty cool until I sheared it right off. They were short cage when short cage MTB didn't really exist. That said, road deraileurs were about the same.

here's a link to the patent: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=96qBAAAAEBAJ&dq=2007/0216130

I read the patent and must be missing something since I don't see why this is an improvement. I don't think I have ever had a problem with the oreintation of the 4 bar linkage relative to the frame.

Edit: the auto adjust is pretty cool.
 
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dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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Pretty cool - no cable! Electronic shifting, here we come (again... zap)!
 

sriracha

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i agree, the self correcting auto-tension is a cool idea.

however, with the rack and pinion gears in there, i wonder if the derailleur is free to move inward, in case it gets smacked by a rock. otherwise, one solid hit from a rock, and all those gears are done.:fie:
 

Sandwich

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when I first saw this, I thought somebody may have dug up one of those old school purple ano jobbers from the 90s.

The idea sounds good, but will it work when dirty, number one, and will it really be better than, say, and x9 or saint? I know people are loving their ultra-lighter stuff, but I dragged my saint across a few rocks at whiteface and the thing just took it. I also went back to 8 speed and had crisp shifts all day. I think maybe people are missing the point.
 

DirtyMike

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Aug 8, 2005
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i agree, the self correcting auto-tension is a cool idea.

however, with the rack and pinion gears in there, i wonder if the derailleur is free to move inward, in case it gets smacked by a rock. otherwise, one solid hit from a rock, and all those gears are done.:fie:
What I got out of it was that the Electronic is a future thing, and Electronic would be the one I would be worried about breaking, If its cable operated, even if its using a gear rack and pinion system inside of it, it should still move freely if yo uhit it. Basically it looks like they removed the body of a standard derailer, and replaced it with a rack and pinion. I dont think its going to be any better, other than the self tensioning, than any other derailer out there now. At the same time, I want to know when I can get them, because I have a bunch of customers that always want the latest and greatest for there bikes, I know I can sell the **** out of these
 

jonKranked

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Yes, it's hydraulic derailluer from Germany. This is what I'd like to see as finally the LAST stage of derailluer era.
A lot of people don't know how to bleed brakes, fewer know how to bleed dampers. Could you imagine the chaos if people had to bleed their shifters/deraillers too? :wacko:
 

AtTheGates

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There was a hydraulic shifter company back in the mid 90s.

I said "was".
S.A.F.E. or something close to that made a hydraulic shift line for cabled setups that replaced only the cable. MBA did a write-up some time in the mid-nineties on a fully hydraulic Boulder they built with a custom faring.
 

ire

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Aug 6, 2007
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that was neat. used two cables (one ea for upshifting & downshifting) on a gripshift, so there was no return spring.
I thought it was one cable looped? I had the chance to ride it once...I thought it was cool, but I was also really young