Its on my bucket list and was wondering what level of riding experience do you need to have before attempting this? Oh and the winter Olympics...are they this coming season?
Anyone gone heliskiing?
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You should be an advanced skier. And you should REALLY like powder. Because it's gonna COST you. 
WRT the Olympics - yes. Vancouver/Whistler in '10.
I think the biggest key is to go with people of a similar ability level. You can get a fairly varied level of terrain heli skiing, but if you're with experts who will kick your ass you'll hate it. Likewise if you're with a slow group you'll want to gouge your eyeballs out with a fork.
You should absolutely be comfortable riding deep pow. And don't even think about using standard skis, get the fattest ****ing beasts you can get your hands on.
Hit up some cat skiing first to test your ability. Much cheaper, as heli skiing is bananas expensive. If you can slay the pow and you're a strong skier, you'll be fine. Just get a good group of people together who you're comfortable riding with and go for it.
If you want to try to get it on the cheap, I've known people who've done standby. Its risky, but can work. Apparently some heli operations will let you just show up and sit there. If they have an empty seat on a flight you can jump in for like half price. If you've got to travel there though that could be a bust... so if its travel then just ante up and pay for it.
You can get some badass skiing going by snowcat or just riding something like mount baker....
But of course Heli is the best way to go by far.
You should absolutely be comfortable riding deep pow. And don't even think about using standard skis, get the fattest ****ing beasts you can get your hands on.
Hit up some cat skiing first to test your ability. Much cheaper, as heli skiing is bananas expensive. If you can slay the pow and you're a strong skier, you'll be fine. Just get a good group of people together who you're comfortable riding with and go for it.
If you want to try to get it on the cheap, I've known people who've done standby. Its risky, but can work. Apparently some heli operations will let you just show up and sit there. If they have an empty seat on a flight you can jump in for like half price. If you've got to travel there though that could be a bust... so if its travel then just ante up and pay for it.
You can get some badass skiing going by snowcat or just riding something like mount baker....
But of course Heli is the best way to go by far.
If you're skiing at Mt Baker it is HIGHLY unlikely that you'd be skiing Real Powder™.
1. you need a lot of money to go. I went in Utah, Snowbird. Skied several peaks. Was really fun, and I forgot to bring my camera which would have documented how cool it was.
2. As to experience. If you are not an expert, forget it. If you are stilling putting the weight on the down hill ski and sliding the other one under as you turn, you're gonna fall. That's not parallel skiing. True parallel is boot to boot, knees together, and hopping both side to side, uplifting with the end of the carve of the turn, and using that period to change your balance to then next turn, then sinking back down again putting the weight on the ball of your foot to drive the front part of the ski into a carved turn. That is true parallel. Weight on both skis. If you can not put your boots together and ski through moguls with your boots glued, and knees tight, then you ain't gonna make it. If you are use to skiing packed surface with boots together, but not moguls, you won't have enough control to turn. Reason being, when you turn on packed, most people put the weight on the downhill ski. Try that in powder without pressure on both boots, your uphill ski will lighten up in the powder, rise up, your knee will mysteriously come up out of the snow, turning your ass around and you'll fall flat on your ass. Now, getting up in powder is another problem. You can't put your hand down and push up or use your pole. You keep pushing through fluffy snow. The key is to be a really good parallel skier with great experience putting weight on both skis. And if you can keep your boots and knees tight together in moguls, you're ready. Getting use to not softening the load on the uphill ski is easily fixed with ONE good fall, and a bunch of ranting cussing and pissy attitude because you keep putting your hand down and can't get up. "I've fallen and I can't get up."
3. Warning. Never try to stop in deep powder, aka 2 to 3 feet deep or more. If you try to stop on a dime like you do on packed, you'll do the same as above. Turn around, and stop on a dime SO fast it will throw you over and leave you in the same position as not putting weight on both skis.
Powder skiing is more about skiing the fall line. Straight down the mountian, with tiny little zig zags back and forth, no big or tight carving turns. It won't work. The powder slows you back so skiing more straight down the hill is more what it's like. It's more of a hopping type motion, in and out of the snow. You sink going down in, lean, turn and your skis bend under the snow pressure packing under them which arcs your ski and your ski pushes you up out of the snow. While you are up in the air, so to speak, lightened by the uprising, you change your angle of attack to the next turn, planting your pole and then sinking into the next turn. Your skis like I said will pack underneath and you'll feel the uplifting of the snow packing under you and throwing you back up again. This is known as hopping and or rise, pole plant, sink, rise pole plant sink. Watch a good powder vid on "youtube" and see that up and down hopping motion and you'll also see their turns are not big arcing turns, they are more straight down the fall line and little hopping back and forth turns more or less straight down as opposed to carving on packed.
Also, when stopping, you want to do slow turning to the side till you come side ways to the mountain fall line or like I said, turning too quick in powder will throw you on your ass. If you have never skied powder before, if you are not ready for it, I'd say don't do it. If you are, it takes about one hour of falling to get it right while your friends keep telling you what to do and you don't listen until you finally break bad packed surface habits and listen and then you figure it out. It's like Algebra. At first you're like Huh? Then you're like OOH I GET IT!!! Hope that helps.
If you get a chance, do Snowbird, and then Alta! The best you'll get in this country for powder skiing. Super dry Champaigne powder. Honorable mentions, Sun Valley Idaho, and Whistler/Blackcomb. Lot's of turd burglars in Whistler area though. Take a girl with you and keep her close to avoid their pesky advances. Nome thay'n?
2. As to experience. If you are not an expert, forget it. If you are stilling putting the weight on the down hill ski and sliding the other one under as you turn, you're gonna fall. That's not parallel skiing. True parallel is boot to boot, knees together, and hopping both side to side, uplifting with the end of the carve of the turn, and using that period to change your balance to then next turn, then sinking back down again putting the weight on the ball of your foot to drive the front part of the ski into a carved turn. That is true parallel. Weight on both skis. If you can not put your boots together and ski through moguls with your boots glued, and knees tight, then you ain't gonna make it. If you are use to skiing packed surface with boots together, but not moguls, you won't have enough control to turn. Reason being, when you turn on packed, most people put the weight on the downhill ski. Try that in powder without pressure on both boots, your uphill ski will lighten up in the powder, rise up, your knee will mysteriously come up out of the snow, turning your ass around and you'll fall flat on your ass. Now, getting up in powder is another problem. You can't put your hand down and push up or use your pole. You keep pushing through fluffy snow. The key is to be a really good parallel skier with great experience putting weight on both skis. And if you can keep your boots and knees tight together in moguls, you're ready. Getting use to not softening the load on the uphill ski is easily fixed with ONE good fall, and a bunch of ranting cussing and pissy attitude because you keep putting your hand down and can't get up. "I've fallen and I can't get up."
3. Warning. Never try to stop in deep powder, aka 2 to 3 feet deep or more. If you try to stop on a dime like you do on packed, you'll do the same as above. Turn around, and stop on a dime SO fast it will throw you over and leave you in the same position as not putting weight on both skis.
Powder skiing is more about skiing the fall line. Straight down the mountian, with tiny little zig zags back and forth, no big or tight carving turns. It won't work. The powder slows you back so skiing more straight down the hill is more what it's like. It's more of a hopping type motion, in and out of the snow. You sink going down in, lean, turn and your skis bend under the snow pressure packing under them which arcs your ski and your ski pushes you up out of the snow. While you are up in the air, so to speak, lightened by the uprising, you change your angle of attack to the next turn, planting your pole and then sinking into the next turn. Your skis like I said will pack underneath and you'll feel the uplifting of the snow packing under you and throwing you back up again. This is known as hopping and or rise, pole plant, sink, rise pole plant sink. Watch a good powder vid on "youtube" and see that up and down hopping motion and you'll also see their turns are not big arcing turns, they are more straight down the fall line and little hopping back and forth turns more or less straight down as opposed to carving on packed.
Also, when stopping, you want to do slow turning to the side till you come side ways to the mountain fall line or like I said, turning too quick in powder will throw you on your ass. If you have never skied powder before, if you are not ready for it, I'd say don't do it. If you are, it takes about one hour of falling to get it right while your friends keep telling you what to do and you don't listen until you finally break bad packed surface habits and listen and then you figure it out. It's like Algebra. At first you're like Huh? Then you're like OOH I GET IT!!! Hope that helps.
If you get a chance, do Snowbird, and then Alta! The best you'll get in this country for powder skiing. Super dry Champaigne powder. Honorable mentions, Sun Valley Idaho, and Whistler/Blackcomb. Lot's of turd burglars in Whistler area though. Take a girl with you and keep her close to avoid their pesky advances. Nome thay'n?
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This is hogwash. You can ski powder without being able to ski moguls. Skiing powder is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier than moguls. And with the advent of the MONSTER fat skis the "skis glued together" technique becomes obsolete.
You need to be GOOD at skiing powder if you're going heli.
If you don't know if you're good at skiing powder or not you need to go to Utah in late Jan or early Feb.
If this doesn't look like heaven on earth to you, you probably shouldn't go heli:
Without a pissy rant back and forth, yer hogwash! Today's skis don't make anyone a better skier! In fact, I've been skiing for 34 years and I can tell you that I'm without a doubt, expert level and can ski just about anything. I'm the guy in the group that says, "let's go down this one!" and everyone else says, Naaa way too steep. You don't need to know moguls but putting a packed base skier in powder with any kind of skis is a day of falling all day long! Fat skis got nuthing to do with having control in powder. Maybe for you in 6 inches but I've skied 4 feet or deeper and I can tell you, if you don't know how to ski boot to boot, tight knees together, you WILL spin around and fall from not putting the weight on both skis. Geese, I can hear you now, "Snowploy dude! Snow plow!" Give me a break man.
Your comment that moster fat skis the skis together technique becomes obsolete, man I wish a Utah ski instructor was on this board to tell you otherwise. That's just completely wrong. You gotta have good leg together boot together skills to ski powder. The skis don't make the person ski better, only on packed! The fat skis are skinning in the middle. This helps the no expert skier, carve turns easier. You carve turns on PACKED, not powder man! The reason the ski turns on packed better is because of the extreme arc on the side, when turning the ski on edge, the front and rear of the ski bend upward while the section where the boot is, stays stationary, thus the ski makes a huge curving arc on the metal edge thus driving the ski into an arcing motion making arc turns. Without them most people would still be slushing side to side like they use to. Ski technology does NOT help ANYONE ski powder! It won't! It can only change handling. A lousy skier won't hold a candle to me on a brand new pair of "FAT" skis with me along side them in a pair of 80's straight 200cm thin Rossi VAS boards. Trust me, I'll smoke your ass.
I learned at 12. I leaned perfect parallel technique by 15. That was 32 years ago. I had moguls down by 16 and perfected with jumping in the middle of a mogul field by 18 and still kept on going without a hitch. I know what I'm talking about in skiing. Don't even talk to me about fat skis. You're wrong.
Skiing moguls with boots together gives great leg control. A good mogul skier will do better in deep powder than the typical packed base parallel skier. Skiing parallel on packed is childs play. A packed parallel skier will not do better than a great mogul skier. I'm not talking 1 or 2 feet, I mean DEEP powder, as in 3, or 4 feet like what you will experience in Heliskiing. The quick tight straight quick down the fall line skiing you get in moguls is a lot more like straight down the fall line skiing you get in deep powder. Packed, people have a tendency to carve big wide turns and more turns, where as moguls you are going pretty much straight down like powder. If you are a good mogul skier. Anyone sliding too much side to side in moguls is a bad mogul skier. Usually you will see them going over them, not manipulating the troughs and glazing over the edges of them back and forth.
Trust me, I know skiing. I don't want to get into a big pissy match with you but trust me, I started skiing in 1975/76 on 170's. I ski 200's. And I don't need fat arc skis to ski better. I carve my straight sided 200 giant slaloms through anything on the mountian. Try doing a back scratcher off a mogule with 200's. You gotta be good to ski skis' of that nature because you gotta work them more. I'd love to have a pair of fat arc skis. Less work for me to get the carved turn. That's the reason why they invented those skis. Too many people slush side to side and ski the wrong way. You ski on edge, not the bottom.
Said my piece, I'm going riding.
Shawn.
Your comment that moster fat skis the skis together technique becomes obsolete, man I wish a Utah ski instructor was on this board to tell you otherwise. That's just completely wrong. You gotta have good leg together boot together skills to ski powder. The skis don't make the person ski better, only on packed! The fat skis are skinning in the middle. This helps the no expert skier, carve turns easier. You carve turns on PACKED, not powder man! The reason the ski turns on packed better is because of the extreme arc on the side, when turning the ski on edge, the front and rear of the ski bend upward while the section where the boot is, stays stationary, thus the ski makes a huge curving arc on the metal edge thus driving the ski into an arcing motion making arc turns. Without them most people would still be slushing side to side like they use to. Ski technology does NOT help ANYONE ski powder! It won't! It can only change handling. A lousy skier won't hold a candle to me on a brand new pair of "FAT" skis with me along side them in a pair of 80's straight 200cm thin Rossi VAS boards. Trust me, I'll smoke your ass.
I learned at 12. I leaned perfect parallel technique by 15. That was 32 years ago. I had moguls down by 16 and perfected with jumping in the middle of a mogul field by 18 and still kept on going without a hitch. I know what I'm talking about in skiing. Don't even talk to me about fat skis. You're wrong.
Skiing moguls with boots together gives great leg control. A good mogul skier will do better in deep powder than the typical packed base parallel skier. Skiing parallel on packed is childs play. A packed parallel skier will not do better than a great mogul skier. I'm not talking 1 or 2 feet, I mean DEEP powder, as in 3, or 4 feet like what you will experience in Heliskiing. The quick tight straight quick down the fall line skiing you get in moguls is a lot more like straight down the fall line skiing you get in deep powder. Packed, people have a tendency to carve big wide turns and more turns, where as moguls you are going pretty much straight down like powder. If you are a good mogul skier. Anyone sliding too much side to side in moguls is a bad mogul skier. Usually you will see them going over them, not manipulating the troughs and glazing over the edges of them back and forth.
Trust me, I know skiing. I don't want to get into a big pissy match with you but trust me, I started skiing in 1975/76 on 170's. I ski 200's. And I don't need fat arc skis to ski better. I carve my straight sided 200 giant slaloms through anything on the mountian. Try doing a back scratcher off a mogule with 200's. You gotta be good to ski skis' of that nature because you gotta work them more. I'd love to have a pair of fat arc skis. Less work for me to get the carved turn. That's the reason why they invented those skis. Too many people slush side to side and ski the wrong way. You ski on edge, not the bottom.
Said my piece, I'm going riding.
Shawn.
This is hogwash. You can ski powder without being able to ski moguls. Skiing powder is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier than moguls. And with the advent of the MONSTER fat skis the "skis glued together" technique becomes obsolete.
You need to be GOOD at skiing powder if you're going heli.
If you don't know if you're good at skiing powder or not you need to go to Utah in late Jan or early Feb.
If this doesn't look like heaven on earth to you, you probably shouldn't go heli:
That is one angry 47 yr-old...
What a douche bag.
dumbass
heh heh.....a backscratcher.... how very 1986.......
And I used to ski on 201's. (Rossignol 7G's)
And I used to ski on 201's. (Rossignol 7G's)
Don't you live in Baltimore? The only thing big enough to ski there is the pile of dead bodies!
Just how many 4 foot days of champagne pow on the east coast do you actually get there on the right coast? I've spent a decent amount of time out there and don't remember a lot of deep days
And your rant about beating a novice skier on fat sticks down the mountain on your old 200s, wow, be proud.....it's kinda like Peaty racing you down a WC course on a hardtail and still smoking you.
Do you still ride with elastomer suspension? No? And why not? Because technology has made better bikes that can make the same rider faster, kinda like new skis. Not saying you can't rock old gear, but new technology does make people faster, etc.
And your rant about beating a novice skier on fat sticks down the mountain on your old 200s, wow, be proud.....it's kinda like Peaty racing you down a WC course on a hardtail and still smoking you.
Do you still ride with elastomer suspension? No? And why not? Because technology has made better bikes that can make the same rider faster, kinda like new skis. Not saying you can't rock old gear, but new technology does make people faster, etc.
VTF's tone is a little off, but his point is pretty much spot on. Sure, you can still go snorkeling on your straight sticks, but you're gonna be busting your arse to do so.
With the newer skis, with the addition of drastic sidecut radius, and a MUCH larger surface area, riders ski powder differently on them when compared to straight side sticks like your old school one. His biking metaphor was pretty much spot on. It'd be like trying to ride a gnar rock garden on a hardtail vs a long travel DH bike. Sure, it can be done on a HT, but your technique will be different, and you will exert more energy to cover the same amount of distance.
FTR, I'm a snowboarder, and the deepest powder I've been fortunate enough to ride was only 12". Enjoyed the hell out of it though!
With the newer skis, with the addition of drastic sidecut radius, and a MUCH larger surface area, riders ski powder differently on them when compared to straight side sticks like your old school one. His biking metaphor was pretty much spot on. It'd be like trying to ride a gnar rock garden on a hardtail vs a long travel DH bike. Sure, it can be done on a HT, but your technique will be different, and you will exert more energy to cover the same amount of distance.
FTR, I'm a snowboarder, and the deepest powder I've been fortunate enough to ride was only 12". Enjoyed the hell out of it though!
Nobody gets the point. If you can't do boot to boot, really well, you're f*cked in powder.
As to deep powder in baltimore, if anyone was listening, I heliskied in UTAH dumb-ass.
As to deep powder in baltimore, if anyone was listening, I heliskied in UTAH dumb-ass.
Ok serious response time:
when was the last time you powder skiied?
Also, carving in powder is possibly in powder on a snowboard.
when was the last time you powder skiied?
Also, carving in powder is possibly in powder on a snowboard.
There isnt one single heli guide out there that will take your money and throw you off a cliff, you can be a complete noob and get a day tailored for your skill level,
I ran as a heli guide for 6 winters in a row in alaska on the chugach and we actually taught people to ski in the wilderness with a 30 minute flight.
as long as the customer is paying, the customer gets whatever they want.
this was my last skiing trip
I ran as a heli guide for 6 winters in a row in alaska on the chugach and we actually taught people to ski in the wilderness with a 30 minute flight.
as long as the customer is paying, the customer gets whatever they want.
this was my last skiing trip
And I'm telling you you're wrong.
Hell - you can't even GET your boots together with modern powder skis.
I still ski "skinny" skis and you're right - you'd better evenly weight 'em.
I've also skied fat skis (both at Silverton Mountain and with the San Juan Powdercats) and you can get away with ALMOST anything with fat skis in powder.
In fact, those fat skis are pretty fun in powder if you apply hardpack GS technique.
OMG! You have a bigger penis than me!!!!
My skis are only 190s.
But they're straight.
And fast.
solution... snowboard the said powder. way more fun and alot less work.
and since everyone is posting their credentials (bithitr) i was raised in park city, ut. i was one of those 8 yr olds thats kickin your a$$ down the mountain because i rode every single day. and i will agree with everyone on here except you. you are bashing powder skis because i don't think you really know what we are talking about. these things are almost as wide as a snowboard and require very little effort to turn on pow. see below.
http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SDO&Product_Code=k2pontoon2007
the hostility in this thread is amazing. ridemonkey keeps getting better and better lately.
and to the dude who wants to go heli, DO IT! your guide will drop you off where he thinks you can handle it and it will be the most amazing day of skiing of your life. gonefirefighting is spot on on this point. they are paid to make your day awesome. heli skiing should not be reserved for 50 year old douchebags who think they are better than bode miller and tanner hall rolled into one.
and since everyone is posting their credentials (bithitr) i was raised in park city, ut. i was one of those 8 yr olds thats kickin your a$$ down the mountain because i rode every single day. and i will agree with everyone on here except you. you are bashing powder skis because i don't think you really know what we are talking about. these things are almost as wide as a snowboard and require very little effort to turn on pow. see below.
http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SDO&Product_Code=k2pontoon2007
the hostility in this thread is amazing. ridemonkey keeps getting better and better lately.
and to the dude who wants to go heli, DO IT! your guide will drop you off where he thinks you can handle it and it will be the most amazing day of skiing of your life. gonefirefighting is spot on on this point. they are paid to make your day awesome. heli skiing should not be reserved for 50 year old douchebags who think they are better than bode miller and tanner hall rolled into one.
Sorry shoulda mentioned that I'm a snowboarder not skiier...I find it stupid to use two different words to describe jumping on a helicopter to get turns. Heliskiiing vs. Heliboarding.
With that one quote you've become my new hero.
why? because you secretly know that its the truth and are kicking yourself for not doing what all the cool kids do? 
No - I've seen the people who snowboard. I would DEFINITELY not want to associate with them.why? because you secretly know that its the truth and are kicking yourself for not doing what all the cool kids do?
Why snowboard when you can have just as much fun on some k2 Pontoons?
I got on some Pontoons this year and the difference coming from fat skis
(189 seth pistols) was amazing. Just imagine being able to ski super tight trees in deep pow, and not having to worry about hitting anything because if a tree gets in your way, you can just make a effortless pow slash much like a snowboard and navigate around the tree. The pontoons may be huge skis, but the ski like they are half the size/weight in the powder. Now the old cranky people are going to say that with fat skis your not skiing the powder, just floating on top, but i will bet that you will never see someone throw a cloud of snow up like this on some old 200 straight skis.
I got on some Pontoons this year and the difference coming from fat skis
(189 seth pistols) was amazing. Just imagine being able to ski super tight trees in deep pow, and not having to worry about hitting anything because if a tree gets in your way, you can just make a effortless pow slash much like a snowboard and navigate around the tree. The pontoons may be huge skis, but the ski like they are half the size/weight in the powder. Now the old cranky people are going to say that with fat skis your not skiing the powder, just floating on top, but i will bet that you will never see someone throw a cloud of snow up like this on some old 200 straight skis.
No - the guy on old 200 straights would be so deep you'd only see his head & shoulders... occasionally.but i will bet that you will never see someone throw a cloud of snow up like this on some old 200 straight skis.
see above post... 
two votes for the pontoons!
two votes for the pontoons!Why snowboard when you can have just as much fun on some k2 Pontoons?
I got on some Pontoons this year and the difference coming from fat skis
(189 seth pistols) was amazing. Just imagine being able to ski super tight trees in deep pow, and not having to worry about hitting anything because if a tree gets in your way, you can just make a effortless pow slash much like a snowboard and navigate around the tree. The pontoons may be huge skis, but the ski like they are half the size/weight in the powder. Now the old cranky people are going to say that with fat skis your not skiing the powder, just floating on top, but i will bet that you will never see someone throw a cloud of snow up like this on some old 200 straight skis.
Come on, guys... if you're gonna go big... GO BIG!
LMAO!!! Now THAT was funny. But my skis would be a little longer than that! And back scratchers still look cool no matter the 80's comment. They were around in the 60's and 70's and still are cool looking to do.
OMG! You have a bigger penis than me!!!!
Okay, not trying to start hostility in the thread... I am a snowboarder too, but a much better skier. I started snowboarding on a Sim's half pipe. First one they made, back in 1988. The point I make is if you are still not parallel skiing you will be f*cked all day trying to learn powder, you will be wasting your money to heliski. You will have the up hill ski come up out of the snow, spin you around and lay you out on your back. That's not just me, that's powder if you don't parallel.
As to the equipment making you better, I disagree. Experience is the key to powder and anything. You can take a WC rider on an old tech bike, and put him up against a noob on the most current best equipment and the WC rider will win everytime by experience. Some use to jumping off cliffs on a bike will jump down cliffs and someone ona better bike that doesn't will wind up in the hospital trying. Get my point?
I use to ride a motorcycle as a kid. I had a slower bike than other guys, and I would whip that ass of other kids that had faster, better bikes. The point is, I rode better by experience. Experienced parallel skier will ski powder with easy on ANY boards, fat or thin and the skier who can not parallel will be having a hard time falling all day in the powder. So what I'm saying is, you have to be pretty good as skiing parallel to go heliskiing and have a good time.
By the way, Park City guy, I was not impressed with Park City at all. Thought I wasted my money there. That goes for Park West, Deer Valley, Solitude, and Brighton. Although McConkys bowl was pretty nice, the rest was for the birds. I found Snowbird the best bowl, little cloud and I loved Peruvian and Alta had the best shutes and a few narly tree runs with tons of moguls in the middle with super short turn margin for error. I liked that technical skiing. On longer boards, I do have to work harder but that's half the fun, it made me a better skier.
Will fat boards make you a powder skier right off? They may help you glide up and down out of the powder easier, but the same rule applies to trying to keep your boots together and weight evenly distributed over both skies no matter what type of skies you are on or you will spin and fall a lot. Just trying forwarn someone that is asking about heliskiing, expect deep powder and if you can't parallel, expect to fall a lot. That's all.
We all happy now?
Well at least you see my point on one level. I think any powder skier would tell you that rule number one is weith 'em both evenly. As to keeping skis together impossible on fat skies, then I guess you do have a bigger penis. Try to tie it off with powder cords and you may be able to go boot to boot next time. LOL.And I'm telling you you're wrong.
I still ski "skinny" skis and you're right - you'd better evenly weight 'em.
one of my friends runs a fairly large canadian heli-skiing operation, and lemme tell ya. they make the $$$.
Dude. You're contradicting yourself, making up new $hit, and generally talking a load of bollocks.
More power to you!
More power to you!
Dude. I'm telling you - you DON'T need to weight big fat modern powder skis evenly. You CAN if you want to but you don't HAVE to.
Have you ever ridden fat skis? If so... what were they? I'm starting to suspect that you haven't...
I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you speak in ramens terms?Dude. I'm telling you - you DON'T need to weight big fat modern powder skis evenly. You CAN if you want to but you don't HAVE to.
Have you ever ridden fat skis? If so... what were they? I'm starting to suspect that you haven't...
I guess you have never been to the baker backcountry holmes.If you're skiing at Mt Baker it is HIGHLY unlikely that you'd be skiing Real Powder.
He probably hasn't because he has been heli-skiing back country alaska since he was born.I guess you have never been to the baker backcountry holmes.