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40lb post! DH/FR Rigs around the 40lb mark! tips, pics, specs

zipper

Chimp
Aug 5, 2009
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Tassie
Hey mate nice rig, ive got a blue one. Can you post up some spec's? im looking to get mine a little lighter.(39lbs)

Cheers
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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nice bike, but you're going to have to prove that weight with a scale shot.

DH tubes and tires, steel spring and 823's. I dunno about that.
Why one would buy 823's if not for use without tubes? 729 would be lighter that way.
 

Prettym1k3

Turbo Monkey
Aug 21, 2006
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In your pants
Why one would buy 823's if not for use without tubes? 729 would be lighter that way.
I'm running 721's and have a few flat spots from the past 9 months of riding. So I went to get the wheels trued up and tensioned despite the flat spots, and talked to the local wheel master.

The 823's, because they're tubeless, have no holes that go straight through from inside the rim to the outside. Hence, they're stronger against flat spots due to less week points.

They're also slightly narrower than an 729, but they're (correct me if I'm wrong) about 20g lighter. So if you're going to run tubeless, it DEFINITELY makes sense. If you're not, then maybe it's for strength.

721's: 590g
729's: 675g
823's: 657g
 

davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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seattle
I'm running 721's and have a few flat spots from the past 9 months of riding. So I went to get the wheels trued up and tensioned despite the flat spots, and talked to the local wheel master.

The 823's, because they're tubeless, have no holes that go straight through from inside the rim to the outside. Hence, they're stronger against flat spots due to less week points.

They're also slightly narrower than an 729, but they're (correct me if I'm wrong) about 20g lighter. So if you're going to run tubeless, it DEFINITELY makes sense. If you're not, then maybe it's for strength.

721's: 590g
729's: 675g
823's: 657g
The true weights for 823s are around here and sicklines. The are certainly the heaviest rim that Mavic amkes at about 715g IIRC. As mentioned above, the 657g number is without the required FORE inserts.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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I still love mine but if I wasn't going tubeless I'd simply go with stronger spokes (now revo's) and a lighter rim.
 
Here is the build

2009 Morewood Izimu size Large white
2009 Rock Shox Vivid with #400 spring
2010 Rock Shox Boxxer Team
Sunline V1 bar .75/29.5in
Sunline Direct Boxxer stem 42mm
Sunline lock on grips thick
Avid Elixir R 8/7in rotors
Sram X9 shifter
Sram X9 derailleur
Cane Creek XC II Double Flush headset
Crank Brothers 50/50xx pedals
Raceface Atlas FR crankset 170mm
E13 36t ring
E13 LG1(the new one)
Sram 970 DH cassette 11-23
Sram PC-971 chain
SDG micro I-beam seatpost
SDG I-fly I-beam seat
Azonic Outlaw wheelset
Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 ST

Came in at 39.5lbs on the scale at the bike shop
 

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soul-skier

Monkey
May 18, 2009
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Frame/Fork
2009 Xprezo Furax, Size Small
-Vivid 5.1 Rear Shock/300# Steel Spring
2010 Boxxer WC

Specs:
Holzfeller Direct Mount Stem
Truvativ BooBar Handlebars, uncut
FSA Pig DH Pro Headset
FSA Seatpost
Selle Italia SLR Carbon/Kevlar Saddle
Saint 810 Brakes/Levers, Avid 203mm Front, 185mm Rear Rotors
Saint Crankset & BB, 36t Saint Chainring
E.Thirteen LG-1 Chainguide
Sram XO Shifter/Derailluer
Crank Bros. Red Magnesium Mallet Pedals
Sram DH Cassette/PC 991 Chain
DT Swiss 340 Hubs/FR600 Rims
Maxxis Minion SuperTacky Silkworm VIP 2.5" UST Tubeless Tires
Regular Weight Schrader Valve Tubes
(I'm looking into the DT Swiss Tubeless Conversion Kit)
ODI Lock-On Grips

That's Right...36lbs!
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Photo of some kind?

Also can you tell give us a little ride review? It's a rare beast and I'm curious how it rides.
 

soul-skier

Monkey
May 18, 2009
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Mother Nature


The first words that come to mind when trying to describe the Furax are fast, familiar, light, and low. My riding is mainly done during East Cost DH Race/Freeride sessions at Plattekill MTB Park, Diablo Freeride Park, and lately Windham Mountain Bike Resort. Tight, steep, rooty, rocky trails with some berms, jumps, and gaps thrown in the mix. It's DH MTB heaven for me. Cycles Xprezo is based out of Bromont, CA and the riding there is similar to where I ride and it shows by the bikes performance. Immediatley I noticed how quickly the bike accelerates whether pedaling flats or coasting trails with large square-edged rocks that usually eat forward momentum. The suspension is incredibly active as I can feel the wheels precisely tracking the terrain. But it is also very lively and easy to pick up and put down. The geometry places the rider "inside" the bike, making it very easy to make minor high-speed adjustments and body tweaks when neccesary. It's thoroughbred genes really shine through when snapping in and out of corners with cat-like agility. Both wheels break loose together as the suspension compresses and then rebounds you out at the end of the turn lightning quick with additional forward acceleration. The 63.5 degree H/A tames the steepest chutes. And the short wheelbase and super-stiff, steel rear swingarm make it a joy to manual over obstacles. It's a predictable jumper that you can pop easily to clear trannies or scrub lips to rocket over them. The frame welds are beautiful. And the website pictures do not do justice as to how sick this bike looks. It is the Formula One race car of DH! Light, stiff, sturdy, and FAST, FAST, FAST!!!
 

RUFUS

e-douche of the year
Dec 1, 2006
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Ulmer won't shut his mouth as to how much he loves his Xprezo. The guys that run Xprezo are second to none, so stocked on DH and the Furax. I have never seen someone happier then when I saw those boys when Ulmer qualified at Bromont on the Furax.

Sick frame in person.
 

soul-skier

Monkey
May 18, 2009
322
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Mother Nature
Ulmer won't shut his mouth as to how much he loves his Xprezo. The guys that run Xprezo are second to none, so stocked on DH and the Furax. I have never seen someone happier then when I saw those boys when Ulmer qualified at Bromont on the Furax.

Sick frame in person.
Yes they were very nice people on the phone. And I commend them on the job they did on my complete build. They know what they are doing and know how to build a fast race machine. The specs are ideal. I didn't have to turn the bars or adjust the brake lever placement or fork height at all. It's like I was there when they built it! Words cannot describe how dissapointed I am to have injured myself in practice Saturday. I was itchin' to get good results. Next time I'll save it for the race. I was having way to much fun before the crash.

P.S. You have some amazing photography skillz! Did you sell your soul at the crossroads or something?
 

RUFUS

e-douche of the year
Dec 1, 2006
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Yes they were very nice people on the phone. And I commend them on the job they did on my complete build. They know what they are doing and know how to build a fast race machine. The specs are ideal. I didn't have to turn the bars or adjust the brake lever placement or fork height at all. It's like I was there when they built it! Words cannot describe how dissapointed I am to have injured myself in practice Saturday. I was itchin' to get good results. Next time I'll save it for the race. I was having way to much fun before the crash.

P.S. You have some amazing photography skillz! Did you sell your soul at the crossroads or something?
Thanks man. 3 years as a USAF combat photographer and 15 years behind a camera.

Started with my grandfathers minolta SRT-101, learned from Joe Mcnally and my supervisor and just went out every day for hours on end taking pictures.

Riding and racing DH has helped my photography tremendously as I have a good idea on what lines to take and where the rider will be. Plus I just love doing it.

Heal up quick man and I will meet up with you to get some pics of you ripping it on that Xprezo.
 

cubebiker

Chimp
Apr 9, 2008
88
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I love the conti tyres. They are sticky as glue and roll OK. They tend to wear a little slower than my Highroller 42a but offer way more grip.
I can tell that I do puncture less since I got those and alltogether it is a better tyre than any Maxxis I have tried.
 

marshalolson

Turbo Monkey
May 25, 2006
1,770
519
just my .02 on the kaiser as well:

i compare them VERY favorably to dhfs - which i have run exclusively the last 2 seasons. the are just as engaged, roll just as well (if not a bit better), and brake just as well. they require a "push" to drift, where the dhf sorta automatically does at a certain lean. they are sorta in between a DHF and a high roller i would say roll like the high roller, hook up like the dhf.

they have a super stiff sidewall, so i run about 3psi lower when setup tubeless.

the rubber is crazy soft to the touch though, and if they hold up well enough, i am hooked. however, after 2 full days, they look like a dhf after a week. soooo... time will tell. if i can get a month out of them (average on dhf 42's), i will run them exclusively. plus they cost me $7/tire less, so well... that is good too :D
 
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Jase76

Monkey
Aug 10, 2007
176
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Australia
I love the conti tyres. They are sticky as glue and roll OK. They tend to wear a little slower than my Highroller 42a but offer way more grip.
I can tell that I do puncture less since I got those and alltogether it is a better tyre than any Maxxis I have tried.
just my .02 on the kaiser as well:

i compare them VERY favorably to dhfs - which i have run exclusively the last 2 seasons. the are just as engaged, roll just as well (if not a bit better), and brake just as well. they require a "push" to drift, where the dhf sorta automatically does at a certain lean. they are sorta in between a DHF and a high roller i would say roll like the high roller, hook up like the dhf.

they have a super stiff sidewall, so i run about 3psi lower when setup tubeless.

the rubber is crazy soft to the touch though, and if they hold up well enough, i am hooked. however, after 2 full days, they look like a dhf after a week. soooo... time will tell. if i can get a month out of them (average on dhf 42's), i will run them exclusively. plus they cost me $7/tire less, so well... that is good too :D

Thanks very much for the info fellas, much appreciated.:thumb:
 
Aug 19, 2009
41
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PNW/Sweden
Here is my downhill ride:

06 IH Sunday, medium.





running an air shock currently, works great:


i love this hub, and its really light too.



The bike in the trim seen in the pic (High Roller rear, Minion Front in front) weights in at 35.93 lbs. Yes, thats sub 36... its pretty fun having a full DH bike that weighs only 4 lbs more than my trail bike, the bike just feels really lively.

Its annoying that this is an 06 which is .9 lbs heaver than an 07. This winter I would like to swap the frame with either an 07/08 Sunday or maybe a 951. That with a 2010 Boxxer WC would get a bike with the rest of these parts in the barely-under 35 pound category. ...those are heavy ass pedals too...need to do something about that...
 

frango

Turbo Monkey
Jun 13, 2007
1,454
5
DirkaDirkaJack, how did You make DHX Air work poperly with Sunday? I friend of mine tried it, and told me it was totally overdumped...
 

maxbs

Chimp
Aug 25, 2009
4
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Heres my Gambler, love the thing.
Few changes still to be made. The boxxer has been sold im waiting on a BOS N'dee to arrive. The shop sent single ply instead of 2 ply, so maybe some Conti's or Maxxis. Brakes might get changed aswell.

About 18kg (39.7lbs)with the singles plys, will be about 19kg (41.8lbs) with the 2ply. Not bad for a Gambler with a DH build.
 

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matsO

Monkey
Aug 26, 2006
139
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My ride, it weights around 41,5 lbs
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Very nice, in my opinion the 2006 DHR is one of the best looking DH-bikes ever made. I am biased though as I plan to post my old stripped, lowered and polished DHR06 here soon too :) The problem is that I usually also take my photos at the underground garage at work, now I have to rethink that.