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Leppah

Turbo Monkey
Mar 12, 2008
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Utar
oh forgot - GoRide sells Glory's. Got it! No way would they admit that the bike is too steep. instead lets give people options how to make their bike slacker and lower.
I know that if i just bought a bike and wanted a few things different, i'd figure out a way to adjust it a bit instead of going out and buying a whole different bike. Makes sense to mess with it a bit. Hell of a lot cheaper to do it that way.
 

FlipFantasia

Turbo Monkey
Oct 4, 2001
1,663
499
Sea to Sky BC
you guys are a lost cause! why are you avoiding the initial request? People want to know the HA with the PROPER 3" stroke shock.

oh forgot - GoRide sells Glory's. Got it! No way would they admit that the bike is too steep. instead lets give people options how to make their bike slacker and lower.
ahhhh yes, conspiracy! are you for real?
 

rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
1,284
0
just Santa Cruz...
you guys are a lost cause! why are you avoiding the initial request? People want to know the HA with the PROPER 3" stroke shock.

oh forgot - GoRide sells Glory's. Got it! No way would they admit that the bike is too steep. instead lets give people options how to make their bike slacker and lower.


You're an angry little elf aren't you!






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Orfen

Monkey
Feb 22, 2004
259
0
UP, michigan
not angry, but it's like asking a questoin to a politician. You never get the answer you're looking for.

why is it so difficult to give us the head angle in stock configuration?
 

mountains4me

Chimp
Sep 18, 2009
21
0
Great review. I am trying to track down as many reviews of this bike as possible. I can get a killer deal on one, so it is good to hear the feedback. Some of the trails I ride will actually benefit the 65ish HA. I actually will be putting a Totem fork on it with dual ring Saint crank. I pedal up 98% of the time unless i am resort riding or something. Great comparison to your rides also.
 
Feb 3, 2005
59
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Whistler
this post just increases in levels of sadness and riddiculusness.

I was thinking about slapping a smaller eye to eye shock like a roco with the same stroke. I think it makes perfect sense anyone have some non female cleaning bag advice?
 

dhr-racer

Monkey
Jan 24, 2007
410
0
A, A
yes, that everyone should stop acting like a pinkbike racer boys and get out and ride, i know i rode my 65.5 degree HA DHR all day today and didnt have a problem tearing down the trail faster then the guys with the slacker angles
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
you guys are a lost cause! why are you avoiding the initial request? People want to know the HA with the PROPER 3" stroke shock.

oh forgot - GoRide sells Glory's. Got it! No way would they admit that the bike is too steep. instead lets give people options how to make their bike slacker and lower.
Again, in case you missed it the last 5 times...65.5 degree HA with my build. Not imaginary numbers from Giants web site, real numbers from my bike. I don't want it any lower or slacker, I like it how it is. We were doing it to see what the BB, HA would be just because we were bored, it was raining and we couldn't be riding. I personally don't have anything to gain from any bike I own. I'm not sponsored, don't want to be sponsored and just generally don't care. I buy frames (@ retail), ride them and tell it how I see it. No more, no less. If it's too steep for you, don't buy it and quit reading about it. Last time I checked, by the way, Go-Ride doesn't sell Giant online so I doubt they care either way.
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
am I really reading this right?

yeah I think you might need a fix, except not as used in your context.

at least you can admit to your problems...aha

and I guess it might actually work out cheaper (and better) than if you were a drug addict though...unless...you do seem to get addicted to things...
Yeah, you read it right. I enjoy building and riding bikes I guess. It's fun to try all the different stuff out. Unfortunately the only way to really do it with DH bikes is to buy them and try them. Unless your buddies all buy different stuff. I don't have a wife around to bitch at me for spending money anymore so I'm taking full advantage.
 

P.T.W

Monkey
May 6, 2007
599
0
christchurch nz
you guys are a lost cause! why are you avoiding the initial request? People want to know the HA with the PROPER 3" stroke shock.

oh forgot - GoRide sells Glory's. Got it! No way would they admit that the bike is too steep. instead lets give people options how to make their bike slacker and lower.
I'm gonna take the bike in there today and drop it off. They will probably get some pics up to settle this HA debate. I will say that I was there building the bike and when we finished the first thing we did was weigh and take measurements. My bike as it sits in the pics was 36 lbs and I think 5 or 6 oz. BB height was 14.25 and that I double checked when I got home, and the HA was 65.5 with the forks in the setting you see in the initial pics. All very different from my 951 and 303r but yet, still very fast and very fun. Who knows why, and who cares as long as it works.
Orfen as youll see above, ekripper did answer you request on the previous page of this thread(you must have missed it).
Oh and the 2010 glory uses a 2.75" stroke shock

An to all the other wingers on here ekripper has posted what seems to be fair an unbiased comparisons with the glory a two other competing frames......
All of this headangle nonsense is just retarded seems you just want someone to say its a POS an wont accept anything else.
If you don't like it DONT BUY IT.
 

Hesh To Steel

Monkey
Dec 12, 2007
661
1
Hell's Kitchen
All of this headangle nonsense is just retarded seems you just want someone to say its a POS an wont accept anything else.
Seems to me like that's exactly the case.

I feel bad for ekripper though. It seems like a lot of the things he's said in this thread have just gone way over peoples' heads.
 

happhazard

Chimp
Aug 30, 2005
49
0
Hey ekripper- really like the bike. I'm assuming you're going to be putting a ti spring on there at some point, getting it well below 36lbs.= rad. About the upper link hitting the inside of your knees- Still a problem? Or just not wearing knee pads? Also- could someone with a medium size measure from center of bottom bracket to center-top of head tube? Thanks!
 

leprechaun

Turbo Monkey
Apr 17, 2004
1,009
0
SLC,Ut
Center of BB to center top of head tube on a medium is 27.5".

The head tube is 4.5" and the headset is inside the frame, so in a way that's like measuring to the top of the bearing cup too.

Krispy
 

zdubyadubya

Turbo Monkey
Apr 13, 2008
1,273
96
Ellicott City, MD
Seems to me like that's exactly the case.

I feel bad for ekripper though. It seems like a lot of the things he's said in this thread have just gone way over peoples' heads.
Yes. A thousand times yes. The giant freakin rocks and at the price they are selling it at, it is even more ridiculously awesome. Giant as a company OWNS companies that sell slacker bikes. If you want a slacker bike, go buy one and guess what... Giant still gets the money, win win for them. They aren't behind the times as some have suggested, just playing the market with a bike that will be comfortable for alot of people.

ekripper, I am very appreciative of your excellent review and am recommending the Glory to a few friends who are in the market for a new DH rig. Thank you for the time that you spent writing it.
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
Hey ekripper- really like the bike. I'm assuming you're going to be putting a ti spring on there at some point, getting it well below 36lbs.= rad. About the upper link hitting the inside of your knees- Still a problem? Or just not wearing knee pads? Also- could someone with a medium size measure from center of bottom bracket to center-top of head tube? Thanks!
Yeah the ti spring is coming. Just wanted to get spring weight sorted first. As far as the link bothering me, the last ride I didn't notice it so much. I did have knee pads on but I just adjusted my riding position a bit and problem solved.
 

dzm

Chimp
Sep 20, 2009
3
0
Maybe they should make an XC race bike with a 64 degree HA; you know, play the market a little.
Don't you think they'd rather earn (more) money from selling a bike with their name on it than getting a few dollars for manufacturing a competitor's frame?
 

JCL

Monkey
Aug 31, 2008
696
0
Maybe they should make an XC race bike with a 64 degree HA; you know, play the market a little.
Don't you think they'd rather earn (more) money from selling a bike with their name on it than getting a few dollars for manufacturing a competitor's frame?
Exactly.

The DH market is so big that manufacturers can put whatever geometry they want on bikes and they'll still make billions. It's exactly the same with the supercar market. Ferrari knew they could put a 1.8 diesel in the 458 Italia and still sell thousands because the market is so large and the potential customers are so ill informed....:rolleyes:
 

Banshee Rider

Turbo Monkey
Jul 31, 2003
1,452
10
Exactly.

The DH market is so big that manufacturers can put whatever geometry they want on bikes and they'll still make billions. It's exactly the same with the supercar market. Ferrari knew they could put a 1.8 diesel in the 458 Italia and still sell thousands because the market is so large and the potential customers are so ill informed....:rolleyes:
The market is much, much bigger than the ridemonkey downhill forum. The market is also much bigger than the racing sect of downhill.
 

Banshee Rider

Turbo Monkey
Jul 31, 2003
1,452
10
Sounds like wishfull thinking... How many Demos, Glorys, V10s, sold last year compared to Enduros, Reigns, and Nomads...

We are the black sheep of cycling. Well, us and unicylces
Your reading too much into my post. I'm not saying the market is huge, I'm saying that the ratio of elitist ridemonkey DH forum posters to everyone who rides downhill is very small. One this is for certain, this bike will continue to beat riders on 'the best bikes', because at the end of the day its only slower on the internet.
 

rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
1,284
0
just Santa Cruz...
Your reading too much into my post. I'm not saying the market is huge, I'm saying that the ratio of elitist ridemonkey DH forum posters to everyone who rides downhill is very small. One this is for certain, this bike will continue to beat riders on 'the best bikes', because at the end of the day its only slower on the internet.

Fair enough... :thumb:






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frango

Turbo Monkey
Jun 13, 2007
1,454
5
Yeah the ti spring is coming. Just wanted to get spring weight sorted first. As far as the link bothering me, the last ride I didn't notice it so much. I did have knee pads on but I just adjusted my riding position a bit and problem solved.
You've got steel 500lbs on Your bike, right? It weighs about 490g. What spring brand have You been thinking about? What weight reduction do You expect?
 

dzm

Chimp
Sep 20, 2009
3
0
Your reading too much into my post. I'm not saying the market is huge, I'm saying that the ratio of elitist ridemonkey DH forum posters to everyone who rides downhill is very small. One this is for certain, this bike will continue to beat riders on 'the best bikes', because at the end of the day its only slower on the internet.
<Translate> the ratio of people who have a clue to those who don't is very small </translate>
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
You've got steel 500lbs on Your bike, right? It weighs about 490g. What spring brand have You been thinking about? What weight reduction do You expect?
Actually running a 400lb spring. 500lb felt like a hard tail! Haven't thought about what brand of Ti spring. Usually just run the RCS due to the fact that I can pick them up locally. I know there not as light as Obtanium or others. Should be able to get it just a touch under 36 or right at 36lbs with the Ti spring maybe. Either way, it's light enough as is. :D
 

frango

Turbo Monkey
Jun 13, 2007
1,454
5
Actually running a 400lb spring. 500lb felt like a hard tail! Haven't thought about what brand of Ti spring. Usually just run the RCS due to the fact that I can pick them up locally. I know there not as light as Obtanium or others. Should be able to get it just a touch under 36 or right at 36lbs with the Ti spring maybe. Either way, it's light enough as is. :D
You say You use 400lbs!? and You weigh 175lbs... hmm... I am about 155 (with gear) and I am going to have stock 450lbs spring on the frame.
Will it be too hard? or it's just the way You like to ride it?
400lbs spring is very light - 405g.
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
The 450 will probably be a little firm for you. I typically like my suspension pretty soft in the back though. Try it out and see what you think, but I wouldn't be surprised if you want to go to a 400lb spring.
 

slowmtb

Monkey
Aug 17, 2008
216
0
ChurChur, NZ
ekripper - I currently ride among others a '08 Glory DH0. I find this bike to be a very good plough bike but get frustrated because it does not have much "pop" off of slow/medium speed jumps. I put most of this down to its :eek: weight. Can you let me know your exact impressions on the '10 jumping abilities please. Everything you experienced would be very helpful. I am looking to go the 1 bike does all on our local FR / DH trails and this bike looks promising.

Cheers :thumb:
 

ekripper

Chimp
Jul 2, 2005
75
0
Salt Lake City, Utah
slowmtb, I certainly wouldn't say this new Glory is a plow bike at all really. It feels really similar to the Yeti 303r in how it handles and it's quickness. Does fine through rocks but not what I would call a point and shoot bike. It jumps extremely well and is really easy to bunny hop over stuff and pop of small rocks and bumps. Pretty sure the shorter wheel base and light weight really attribute to this. I rode the 951 today on those same trails that I've been riding the Giant and it didn't feel nearly as nimble and fast on that stuff. I don't have any experience with the previous Glorys so I can't give you a fair comparison but I would think this bike will feel quite a bit different in the jumping department due to the weight difference. The bike feels really lively and quick. Hope that helps some.
 

slowmtb

Monkey
Aug 17, 2008
216
0
ChurChur, NZ
slowmtb, I certainly wouldn't say this new Glory is a plow bike at all really. It feels really similar to the Yeti 303r in how it handles and it's quickness. Does fine through rocks but not what I would call a point and shoot bike. It jumps extremely well and is really easy to bunny hop over stuff and pop of small rocks and bumps. Pretty sure the shorter wheel base and light weight really attribute to this. I rode the 951 today on those same trails that I've been riding the Giant and it didn't feel nearly as nimble and fast on that stuff. I don't have any experience with the previous Glorys so I can't give you a fair comparison but I would think this bike will feel quite a bit different in the jumping department due to the weight difference. The bike feels really lively and quick. Hope that helps some.
Cheers, any feedback ( good or bad ) is always appreciated :thumb: