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the best dh pedal ever?

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
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my heel drops to almost even with the spindle height. Good freakin luck trying to find a concave pedal in production that lets the heel drop that much.

eh.. ever heard of ankles?

I haven't ever had any pedal that I couldn't ride with my heel dropped lower than the axle :confused:
 
Apr 16, 2006
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Golden, CO
Got a set of these a little bit ago:



Xpedo Curves - Xpedo is to Wellgo as Lexus is to Toyota.

-400 grams (measured) @ $70 typical cost = not to shabby, and with a decent platform, around 3.9" X 3.75" or so, and 17.4mm thick (w/o pins, like everyone else measures them lol).

Haven't tried the canfields soley due to the cost, but I bet they're nice. These suffice tho, and are just as thin as the next "thin" conventional pedal (i.e. not the crampon or podium).
 

davet

Monkey
Jun 24, 2004
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I don't know about you guys but my pedals usually die from being bashed about on rocks rather than bearings etc. There's no way I'd be spending big bucks for boutique pedals no matter how pretty they are, just to get beat upon rocks.

Wellgo MG-1's, 367g for the pair, as cheap as $30 on ebay on any particular day. They grip well, and I get a full year out of abuse out of them.
 
May 27, 2009
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well i think that's the catch 22. These pedals you hit 90% less than the MG 1's.
so you don't want to spend money because you always hit them, and you hit them because you don't want to spend the money on something super thin..... I guess either way works. The only thing that makes me never want to go back to the wellgos or anything as thick as those, is i have crashed pretty bad before form clipping pedals before, and id rather spend a little bit of money and avoid doing that....
 

Gridds

Monkey
Dec 18, 2008
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Great Britain
I think I'm going to invest in a pair of the Canfield Crampons. For 4 reasons:
Lower CoG, better pedalling, fewer ground/rock strikes, and no more rolling my feet off the pedals.

Bonus reason: They look spiffing :)

Bonus bonus reason: Because I can :D
 

YoPawn

Chimp
Aug 13, 2009
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I think I'm going to invest in a pair of the Canfield Crampons. For 4 reasons:
Lower CoG, better pedalling, fewer ground/rock strikes, and no more rolling my feet off the pedals.

Bonus reason: They look spiffing :)

Bonus bonus reason: Because I can :D
I bought mine just so I can look down on others!
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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BWM Shinburger??



Ooops, sorry, I thought that this was a "Most dangerous pedal that was still somehow slippery as hell" post...
They still sell this kind of pedals? I though the era of designing pedals for their super hardcore grrrrr looks is over. I have a 32 pin pedals on my shelf behind me and I'm quite sure I don't want to ever use them again.
 

Demomonkey

Monkey
Apr 27, 2005
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Auckland New Zealand
well i think that's the catch 22. These pedals you hit 90% less than the MG 1's.
so you don't want to spend money because you always hit them, and you hit them because you don't want to spend the money on something super thin..... I guess either way works. The only thing that makes me never want to go back to the wellgos or anything as thick as those, is i have crashed pretty bad before form clipping pedals before, and id rather spend a little bit of money and avoid doing that....
I think the answer is: buy thin pedals that are inexpensive. Boat loads of them about nowadays. :thumb:
 

davet

Monkey
Jun 24, 2004
551
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well i think that's the catch 22. These pedals you hit 90% less than the MG 1's.
so you don't want to spend money because you always hit them, and you hit them because you don't want to spend the money on something super thin..... I guess either way works. The only thing that makes me never want to go back to the wellgos or anything as thick as those, is i have crashed pretty bad before form clipping pedals before, and id rather spend a little bit of money and avoid doing that....
oh come on, we're talking millimeters here. 5 or so mm more clearance will reduce pedal strikes by 90%? What color is the coolaid you're drinking? On a 7-10" travel bike, going fast over rough terrain....5mm isn't going to be the difference of hit and miss. Stack 5 dimes on top of each other, that's 5mm. I'm not buying it.
 
May 27, 2009
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oh come on, we're talking millimeters here. 5 or so mm more clearance will reduce pedal strikes by 90%?
exactly right. I didn't think that it would make that much of a difference either.
But when demo'd the point one pedals, I practically never hit them. only a few light skims, never a smack. I used to destroy MG1's. which is why i used them, because they were so cheap, and it didnt matter But now I'm sold. I'm getting them as soon as there available. to each there own I guess
 

CoyoteRun

Chimp
May 29, 2008
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SF, CA
Agree. The old 636 is the best. The cages on those 646 and 647 break very easily. Maybe Shimano purposly did that so people can keep buying plastic cage pedals from them.


The older type with the red alloy cage are better.

to bad they don't make them anymore

good thing we have a spare set for whenever somebody wants to run clipless.
 

Demomonkey

Monkey
Apr 27, 2005
857
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Auckland New Zealand
oh come on, we're talking millimeters here. 5 or so mm more clearance will reduce pedal strikes by 90%? What color is the coolaid you're drinking? On a 7-10" travel bike, going fast over rough terrain....5mm isn't going to be the difference of hit and miss. Stack 5 dimes on top of each other, that's 5mm. I'm not buying it.
I went from 170mm cranks to 165mm and from 50/50 pedals to some skinny ones that the name eludes me on right now and my pedal strikes have reduced by well over 50%. 90% is an obvious exaggeration but that combination of cranks and pedals probably gave me another 7-8mm of clearance and its made a big difference.
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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I don't know about you guys but my pedals usually die from being bashed about on rocks rather than bearings etc. There's no way I'd be spending big bucks for boutique pedals no matter how pretty they are, just to get beat upon rocks.
I agree with you spendy pedals are a bit crazy if you actually ride the **** out of stuff. I just got a pair of Twenty6 prerunners for my dj bike but that thing never see's a rock, sorta wanted to support the company and buy from ian so scooped a pair.

If i had to run ANY pedal and cost wasnt an issue i would run the prerunners on my bikes, but i cant see running them on my dh bike...I usually blast through a set of pedals every 1.5 seasons. I dont think you can beat the fly bikes ruben's for the money, they arent cheap but arent crazy either...

 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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I went from 170mm cranks to 165mm and from 50/50 pedals to some skinny ones that the name eludes me on right now and my pedal strikes have reduced by well over 50%. 90% is an obvious exaggeration but that combination of cranks and pedals probably gave me another 7-8mm of clearance and its made a big difference.
is this so? My current setup is 175 saints with atomlab trail kings, i catch quite a few pedals even on the inside of turns. When i build my new dh bike this year it will be 165 Saints FINALLY
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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Call me old school, but always liked these... haven't tried that many other pedals.

 

DH-LOS

Chimp
Oct 3, 2009
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off on a tangent, but anyone know how much the twenty6 prerunner pedals will retail for? [Dont know the price but there going to be released in 3 weeks ]
Same price as the ralleye's I ordered my urban camo prerunners like a month ago they are still 3 weeks out I was gonna cancel the order but they are so nice they are going on my DH rig with 165mm Profile racing cranks which are one of the best cranks I have used I am glad I went with them. But I agree spendy pedals are tuff especially if you ride alot but they also preform real well too nothing like a nice grippy well built pedal for me it helps me ride better cause i am real picky on the pedals and how my feet feel on them. I have a set of 5050 that i have as a thrasher pedal and dude I just hate them they dont feel good at all I am always adjusting myself on them and it has F ed me up a few times made me eat it pretty good.... Please prerunners come soon...
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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Are they still $170? Can't get myself to spend that much on a pedal unless I know it's going to last a damn long time.
 

Frisco

Chimp
Jan 16, 2002
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Vancouver, WA
I've been running the Point one pedals for more than a season. They are phenomenal pedals and are still in great shape. They are still straight and have no bearing play yet. This is more than I can say about any other pedals I've run. Also, I live in the PNW and they shed mud great. To me, having the pedal almost flush with the crank seems like a really strong design feature.
 

Arkayne

I come bearing GIFs
May 10, 2005
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SoCal
Just got a set of RAW Podium pedals from Point One. These are SO dope!
We can be pedal bros :) I've got a few dozen shuttle runs on mine and had some minor strikes. Other than still being a bit tight, no problems. Nice pins. I'll trade you some short pins for a few of your long pins?

 
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eater

Monkey
Nov 25, 2005
476
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Switzerland
i ride this one.. first day in bikepark, no up and down for the right stand.. just make you feet on and ride...

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frorider

Monkey
Jul 21, 2004
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cali
i have the HT AE01's on my truax/totem, and the AE03's on my Bronson.

The AE03's have a better design, since all the pins have allen heads on the opposite side of the pedal. The 01s have the outer pins that don't have a flanged allen head, and therefore they get knocked out of the pedal completely if you hit a rock hard (rather than just loosening up a bit, like the pins on the AE03 or my Spikes).

Unfortunately all these HT AE pedals have a bushing system that wears out pretty quickly. I've been meaning to get some more bushings so I can rebuild mine.

It's unfortunate that the bike industry still can't figure out how to make a strong, durable, lightish, thin profile pedal with good grip that is under $150.
 

Udi

RM Chief Ornithologist
Mar 14, 2005
4,915
1,200
As above, the HT bushing system is a failure. It's just a poorly engineered design (blanket fix thrust bearing on endcap) that will never work in the long term. If you don't mind having play in your pedals regularly it's less of an issue, but really they need a complete redesign.

I think the Spikes have the best bearing/bushing/axle design in a thin pedal. The bodies could be a bit lighter, but I've been running them with the prototype Ti axles for a short time now and so far they've been great. They're about 370g/pair with those.