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Slopestyle/Freeride bikes that climb?

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
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Rochester, NY
Ok so Im looking to pick up a frame to build over the harsh NY winter but Im not sure what would best suit my end needs.

In short what I want this bike to handle:
-Jumping and throw down some FMX/BMX style tricks
-Light/Medium Freeriding (technical and semi-aggressive)
-VERY little streets...just ride manuals maybe some spinny moves

Kicker: I have no lifts where I ride so Ide like to be able to trail ride it around (I dont expect it to commute or climb amazingly but Ide like it to be atleast tolerable)

Right now Im looking at a Norco Shore and Corsair Konig.

So learn me guys so I dont end up with a money pit that doesnt meet my needs...my apologies for such a newbie thread in advance
 

daway

Chimp
Apr 15, 2004
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Seattle
The Shore seems like a bit of a big bike for what you are looking to do especially compared to the Konig. Why not look into a Norco Empire 5 or older Norco Six (they don't make Six's anymore)?

Either way, you're going to need to be more specific about what you are trying to do with the bike. How much travel do you want?
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
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Rochester, NY
a couple people have been throwing the SX-Trail out there, the 09's are def sexy lookin rides Im not sure how well they jump though?

As for being more specific...I want a bike that can fly and freeride but I can still pedal instead of having to carry it. Ide like to be able to hit a jump and try some freestyle motocross tricks (whips, knack-knacks, hart attack, flips/variables) but also FR/AM it
 

JustMtnB44

Monkey
Sep 13, 2006
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Pittsburgh, PA
Add Intense SS to the list. My buddy has one, has full length seat tube so works ok for climbing as long as you are not on a frame that is too small.
 

cecil

Turbo Monkey
Jun 3, 2008
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dethklok r u a roc local? do you know all the sweet trails in the bristol, italy valley, potter, hi-tor areas? these can b shuttle runs, all but potter have a fairly easy trail to ride up (i can ride up them all on a 6" 35lb freeride bike) and then multiple options down, anything from fast single track, fire roads, rooty steep full out dh sections.
 

jekyll991

Monkey
Nov 30, 2009
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Belfry, KY
Gotta recommend a Giant reign x. I have the normal reign with a marz. all mountain 2 w/ eta and it climbs like a goat with the fork cranked down. I only weigh 120lbs so it can take pretty big hits with my light weight with no flex. The head angle is a bit steep for FR which makes downhill switch-backs a bit twitchy, but I think my fork needs tuning.
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
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Rochester, NY
dethklok r u a roc local? do you know all the sweet trails in the bristol, italy valley, potter, hi-tor areas? these can b shuttle runs, all but potter have a fairly easy trail to ride up (i can ride up them all on a 6" 35lb freeride bike) and then multiple options down, anything from fast single track, fire roads, rooty steep full out dh sections.
That I am Cecil, are you as well? You having ridden our local trails, what do you think would be a good choice for what we have access to? I had originally picked a slopestyle bike so I could do both freeride and dirtjumping...but Im wondering if I should lean more towards a FR/AM rig?
 

cecil

Turbo Monkey
Jun 3, 2008
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i like the norco a lot but if the bikes are local see if u can take the owner and bike to webster, whiting road trails couple of small loops with a little of everything only 5 miles total of trails.
its rider preference, a friend of mine had a perp that he loved i rode it and i was not feeling it
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
149
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Rochester, NY
sadley neither are local so here I am asking newb questions haha

I figure with either bike I want to get a fork and shock that both have lockout features for pedaling...I know the norco will climb but the Konig will fly better and be easier to throw tricks on.

How much harder will the Shore be to do flips and variables on?
 

dexter

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2001
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Boise, Idaho
realistically do you have the skills to pull off these tricks? People constantly buy bikes overbuilt and that have far too much technology, suspension, geometry, etc for their given abilities.

I think you should give us a break down of your trails that you ride most and the conditions (ie short uphill, downhill rolling terrian or steep techy climbs to techy dh/ or high speed long runs etc). Seeing as how you have no lifts around you and from the sounds of things not too many full blown dh trails I would look into bikes such as the:

banshee wildcard or the new model they have
intense ss
specialized sx (4x edition)
norco empire 5 (bike is dope)
commencial mini dh
bullit
remedy w/ shorter shock
reign x
turner highline


There is a huge trade off to be made. If you want something to rip through jumps and do tricks on, lower travel and steeper angles are far superior. If you want something to blast trails and freeride a slacker longer travel bike will be a better option. There is always a trade off and dont settle for something just because you have it in your head that your going to learn or do something with it. Not trying to be a dick, just dont want you to end up on the wrong bike for its given intention.

You can take a freeride bike out and jump it and vice versa but neither will be ideal in the opposite situation.
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
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Rochester, NY
No offense taken at all man I appreciate the help here. I cant hit those kind of tricks now but thats where Im looking to progress. But I dont really want an overbuilt bike...just something that wont hold me back and wont break lol

Well there are a bunch of singletrack trails around here, one park built a new area (not open yet though I dont think) thats kind of northshore style.

Theres also a freeride area about an hour away (looked really aggressive but never been there) also a DJ area but Ive heard it sucks and in trash condition.

I havent ridden trails in a while actually I tried trials for pedaling and motorcycles the rest....all the places I used to ride I probally wasnt supposed to, but lately I keep hearing how Rochester trails are progressing
 

joelsman

Turbo Monkey
Feb 1, 2002
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B'ham
I did everything on my bottle rocket, jumps great, was designed for slope style when people wanted more travel then now days. won't break either.
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
149
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Rochester, NY
Yea I've been spending all my free time researching and the Konig is awsome for slopestyle...but for a "do it all" slopestyle like I want, it seems the Bottlerocket and Wildcard are the most versatile.

I think Im gonna pull the trigger on a BR frame since I have found them for $500 cheaper than the wildcard...I dont think the half-pound difference is really going to bother me.
 

pancho64

Monkey
Jul 28, 2007
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a co-worker of mine just got a wildcard. took a ride on it round the parking lot and i was sold. working at a shop i can ride anything i want. but it just seems like its the one bike that will suit all my gravity oriented needs and still be able to go ride trails with the spandex folk. I've ridden the bottlerocket before too but the wildcard just feels more solid and quicker.
 

euroford

Chimp
Dec 8, 2009
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i've had a bottlerocket for 4 years, i've always thought of it as the ultimate play bike for the flowier jump trails at 7 springs and winter park. it feels like a super duper dirtjump bike.

but it always pedaled like CRAP with my fairly plush pushed dhx coil, sooooo much pedal bob.

i threw a hammerschmidt on it a couple of months ago, now that the chainpull is lined up with the pivot it pedals GREAT and i've been using it as a heavy xc and all mountian rig. i did 20 miles on it last weekend and the weekend before.

fantastic machine, pedals great, jumps great, durable as hell and fantastic support from tbc. can't go wrong.
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
149
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Rochester, NY
I figured Ide throw an air shock on that has some sort of lockout

I also I was wondering though how accurate the sizing chart from TBC is? it says a small frame for those under 5'10, Im 5'7"ish with a 29" inseem (barefoot, so approx 30" with shoes on) Think a small will fit me?

and also is there any differences between the 08' BR's and 09's?

The banshee is out since I cant find a frame for less than 2g
 

euroford

Chimp
Dec 8, 2009
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i think a small is what you would want, the only major change was going to larger bearings for the dropout pivot, but maybe that was 07... anyways, no major differences, but i think maybe the 09's are tweeked to be a little lighter.

i don't have nor need any sort of lockout or platform*. i'd stick with a coil.

(push removed my propedal)
 

Dethklok

Monkey
Jul 4, 2008
149
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Rochester, NY
I figured a 3" overshot on sizing would fit me lol but I might as well ask.

Im just sad the 09's didnt come in a PBR edition :( and although the changes are small I've always been a "function over form" kinda guy so 09' it is even if it isnt alcoholic pimpin lol
 

joelsman

Turbo Monkey
Feb 1, 2002
1,369
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B'ham
www.dropnzone.com has some of the older(small dropout pivot) small bottle rockets including a pbr one if you want new for less than $1000. some thing like $985

if you get one with a dhx air make sure it(the dhx) is 08 or newer with the propedal lever instead of dial, and get the small air sleeve.
 
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