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Tire Choice for the NW?

DickusCheezus

DickusCheezus

Chimp
Oct 23, 2009
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Hillsboro
Just been looking around for deals on tires, but wondering what tires work awesome out here, I already have a good idea, but thought I'd throw the question out there, just to hear some feedback.

Also, I don't mind spending locally, so if you know a of a good shop that can be somewhat competitive I'd be willing to throw my $$ in their direction.
 
joelsman

joelsman

Turbo Monkey
Feb 1, 2002
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I like maxxis minions. they work well and are predictable. super tacky for the front 60d for the rear.
 
DickusCheezus

DickusCheezus

Chimp
Oct 23, 2009
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Hillsboro
I guess I'm torn between the minnion's and intense 909's. That's why I posted this question, just to see what people are running up here in the wet, wet, wet PacNW.
 
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stinky6

Monkey
Dec 24, 2004
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Monroe
mserko1 said:
Whatever you do don't get Michelin DH tires, they pack up really bad. I run minnions as well.
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Which Michelins? They make about 5 or 6 different DH tires now. I've had good luck with them and I know a few other people that use them and they love them.

Currently I have Swamp Things on my bike which are rad.
 
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davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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seattle
mserko1 said:
Whatever you do don't get Michelin DH tires, they pack up really bad. I run minnions as well.
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Considering that

1 Currently Mich does NOT make any DH tires

2 when they DID and next year when they will again have DH tires, there were and will be, no less than four seperate and VERY different DH tires.

Stating that an entire brand of tire will not work in the wet/mud, is well...just ingorant (as is using un-cut DH24s in the mud..there is a reason that they were specifically described as a dry conditions tire).

Hopefully, most are smart enough to realize this and pay no attention to your post.
 
mserko1

mserko1

Monkey
Jul 26, 2004
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Bellingham, WA
Easy turbo. I apologize for not stating the specific tire. And as for running them in the mud.. well they were on the bike that I bought so I didn't really have choice for a while. Just saying, for PNW riding don't use those tires, as you will frequently be riding in the mud.
 
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jeepmauler

jeepmauler

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Mar 9, 2004
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Lynnwood
I have Maxxis Minion 3C's on now and don't realy care for them...In the dry @ Whistler they seemed too soft and would wash/push up berms at speed.Now that it's wet everywhere they seem to hook up great on wet roots,rocks and ladders but load up like a mofo....meh.....I'm just gonna run'em till their toast then switch to either regular Minions or Nevegals
 
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davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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seattle
mserko1 said:
Easy turbo. I apologize for not stating the specific tire. And as for running them in the mud.. well they were on the bike that I bought so I didn't really have choice for a while. Just saying, for PNW riding don't use those tires, as you will frequently be riding in the mud.
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And no one is mandating that you answer questions posted on the web. If you don't have any relevant input or even know the product in question, you are free to not post.....

'Those tires' is ambigious and does not describe anything ... I would strongly suggest that in the future that you read about the intended use of a product, rather than bad mouth things that YOU misused. You will find things work better this way.

FYI, Mich made two other tires that are designed for th wet: softer intermediate terrain (the Dh16), and a specific deep mud/grass mud spike (mud 3)..... and surprise surprise, neither one is very good on hard pack.
 
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davep

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Jan 7, 2005
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jeepmauler said:
I have Maxxis Minion 3C's on now and don't realy care for them...In the dry @ Whistler they seemed too soft and would wash/push up berms at speed.Now that it's wet everywhere they seem to hook up great on wet roots,rocks and ladders but load up like a mofo....meh.....I'm just gonna run'em till their toast then switch to either regular Minions or Nevegals
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Changing compounds will not cause the tread design to clear better (and I am not sure what you mean by 'regular' minions)......

A more open tread..or going faster will clear your treads.

Most of the PNW has worn in washed clean trails with (now) loamy dirt with lots of roots and rocks. There is very little fresh soft mud or peanut butter clay. For the most part, a true mud tire (spike) is really overkill and worse on the roots(unless you want to trim knobs..or you have your own little ridden trails).

But, there are certianly lots of puddles and short sections with some goop, combined with an overall lower speed (compared to dry). This can result in some tire clog with closer spaced/hard pack tire designs.

An intermediate type tire like the DH 16, the highroller, swampthing, or similar in a SOFT compound will IMO be the best comprimise for our conditions here.
 
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FullMonty

Chimp
Nov 29, 2009
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I'm just gonna e-spec it up here... I would be interested in trying some Continental Rain Kings.

Anyway, I can tell you that for where I ride most often (Woodlot in Maple Ridge) a DHF supertacky is awesome on the cleaned off, rocky/rooty trails up there.
 
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SpiritoftheWolf

Chimp
Jun 29, 2009
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WA
Nevegals are good for the pedal up but not so good for the ride down. Maxxis minions may not be the best choice on the way up but there killer on the way down.
 
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happhazard

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Aug 30, 2005
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Highrollers seem like they would clear better than Minions, IMHO. Just tried to do a pedal ride with un-cut wet screams- f-ing slooww! The descent was fun though...loamy and muddy. The kind of soil geotech people say has 'liquifaction'.
 
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ryanrider

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Nov 20, 2007
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Can't go wrong with minions. Anyone put some time in on the intense 909s? Kinda interested in giving them a try. Their cheapness lures me..


-Ryan
 
rigidhack

rigidhack

Turbo Monkey
Aug 16, 2004
1,206
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In a Van(couver) down by the river
They lured me too. Hated them. Really, really hated them. So much that I won't even run them on my XC bike any more. Pinch flatted every ride, never got a feel for how they grabbed in the corners (felt like they just wanted to fold over all the time, even with high psi), managed to slice one open second ride in. I won't go back to them.

I have had superb luck with the Bontrager Big Earl though. I'm now on my 3rd or 4th set. They grip pretty well even in the mucky wet nastiness.
 
DickusCheezus

DickusCheezus

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Oct 23, 2009
73
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Hillsboro
ryanrider said:
Can't go wrong with minions. Anyone put some time in on the intense 909s? Kinda interested in giving them a try. Their cheapness lures me..


-Ryan
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My riding buddy just bought a pair, because the price, and he likes them. We rode about a week ago and he didn't seem to have any problems in the wet leaves covering the mud and roots. They cleaned out nicely and seemed to run fast...maybe because he went a bit skinny? I think I'm going to go for a pair of the 909's to check them out. Thanks for all the input, it definitely gave me some things to ponder and to put on the wishlist.
 
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TheSquid

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Dec 15, 2009
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Intense tires are the only way to go. the DH model hooks up better than anything in the world for mud/loam/wetish. If you want to win races get these tires.
 
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thad

Monkey
Sep 28, 2004
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Is that why guys who race world cups for intense don't run their tires?? Maxxis is the way to go.

I have run Minions DHF f&r, High Rollers f&r, and minion F highroller R. Minions shed mud better, and brake harder, but have a bit of a weird transition when you lay them over. Minions roll faster, and corner awesome, the transition seemlessly to the sideknobs. Minions do not brake that well, and pack up a bit more. You can't go wrong with either of those tires in supertacky. I am currently on Minion/Highroller combo. 2.5" of course.
 
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rj_s

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Dec 29, 2009
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It really comes down to what type of terrain you ride out here. I ride WTB Timberwolfs 2.7 front 2.5 rear which are similar to the intense 909s, just a little heavier. They really dig well in the wet, the mud, loose dirt, and take flat turns very well. Only weaknesses Ive found with them are they are a bit on the heavy side and they dont do to well on flat rock surfaces. They definitely get the job done for Washington though.
 
Kntr

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
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Montana
2 ply Minion DHF 2.5 3C for the resorts and single ply Minion DHF 2.5 60d for AM.

Im not a Nevegal fan. Ive tried them all and always go back to Minions. They just work great for all conditions.
 
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ryanrider

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Nov 20, 2007
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runawaymachine said:
Is this site sponsored by Maxxis or something?
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No, a certain tire for this certain type of terrain is obviously preferred for a performance reason... Actually wait. Now that I think about it I really only run Maxxis tires for their supergnarspawnsorsick looks!

Find me a better more proven tire and Ill give it a try!

-Ryan
 
bullcrew

bullcrew

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Dec 8, 2004
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I like Muddy Marys for the stuff here in Boise and up in the mountains as well as beacon, couredelane etc... Hook up really well continue to be effective in snow and ice as well as COLD. Ran minions 3c dhf at the bike park and then a muddy mary, the MM was faster down the line I found myself overshooting stuff to easily and not having to corner any harder but just railing the corner.
I ran minions dhf, kendas (hated em), tiogas, ircs on some AM stuff and the schwalbe lineup has been good so far. THe MMs work great in Socal dusty as well just put a big betty rear for faster rolling and it was a killer combo.

Just my .02

Just some of the conditions Ive tried them in!




 
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juice

juice

Monkey
Nov 11, 2003
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Seattle
I've got a few rides on the brand new (not yet released?) Bontrager FR4. Don't laugh, they're really stepping up their game. I got them at the Evergreen Holiday Party auction, and talked a bit to the local Trek rep about them.

I was skeptical, but they're a really nice single-ply for xc/AM/trail/whatever riding. These new terms for xc riding still make me puke... but that's another story.

They're a big volume 2.35 with aggressive side knobs and dual compound rubber. They're better than Nevegals in both corner grip and they roll faster. Tubeless ready, too.

I'm still waiting for a 2.5 Minion in single-ply and soft rubber (3C or 42a) to run on the front of my xc bike. Less so know that I've got the Bontragers. I've been on Nevegals, which are decent all around, and a 2.35 (looks more like a 2.1) minion 42a. Minion rails corners better, but it's just too small to really soak up the roots and rocks.

Big bike = Minion 2.5 all the way.
 
andres611

andres611

Chimp
Jun 28, 2007
99
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I was planning on getting some 2.35 Minions for my all mountain ride, but I don't like the idea of them being narrower. What do you guys think? I want something with lots of grip but good rolling resistance, I know you have to compromise on either side but what would be the closest thing.
 
Kntr

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
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Montana
andres611 said:
I was planning on getting some 2.35 Minions for my all mountain ride, but I don't like the idea of them being narrower. What do you guys think? I want something with lots of grip but good rolling resistance, I know you have to compromise on either side but what would be the closest thing.
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Buy single ply 2.5 Minions. You can get them overseas. I have 3 in my garage.
 
DickusCheezus

DickusCheezus

Chimp
Oct 23, 2009
73
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Hillsboro
Picked up some Minnions, yummy at BlackRock today, which by the way was epic. Upper Banzai was closed, but Sickter Gnar had plenty of good tacky schralpage. My buddies 909's are holding up and he said, "if 909's were a women, then I'd be buying her up every night and taking full advantage of her cheap pricing and easy access".
 
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