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Kanye West

220# bag of hacktastic
Aug 31, 2006
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What in gods name is that abortion??

I'm drunk as hell, but even ifI were sober, I'd be confused. I will confirm tomorwow.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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Warsaw :/
Yeah, I've seen it recently and the price on it is mad for the components it offers but I'd like to see someone ride it. Though the price is kept so low not because it's made of human excrements but becuase they work without normal dealership on direct order.

The thing that worries me is that it will pedal like crap because they supposedly wanted more small bump sensitivity in the first bit of travell so they made it linear. The bb could also be lower but still for the price you get awesome components and you can later sell the frame to some crazy pb kid who will go bonkers because the frame has a strange acronym for susp name.
 

Trekrules

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2007
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It's also offered as a frame only including Vivid 5.1 w/steel spring:D


pricing will be according to YT Industries:
1299 euro
1862 USD
1962 CAD

Will be available in March 2010
 
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syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
12,690
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Doesn't seem similar enough to follow the Ironhorse Sunday and Giant Monday DH bikes?
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
1,605
Warsaw :/
It's also offered as a frame only including Vivid 5.1 w/steel spring:D


pricing will be according to YT Industries:
1299 euro
1862 USD
1962 CAD

Will be available in March 2010
The frame on itself isn't convicing enough for me to pay 1299 euro for it when for not much more I can get something proven and what seems to be a better designed frame. The real deals are the completes.
Also i'm pretty sure Glory is cheaper in the us and I know a couple of other good frames I can get around that price.
 

haromtnbiker

Turbo Monkey
Oct 3, 2004
1,461
0
Cary, NC
It has a 64 degree headangle. Therefore, clearly 10x better than the new glory.


What in gods name is that abortion??

I'm drunk as hell, but even ifI were sober, I'd be confused. I will confirm tomorwow.
I thought you were typing quite well for being "drunk as hell" until you finished with tomorWOW! Haha
 
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blackohio

Generous jaywalker
Mar 12, 2009
2,773
122
Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
It's pretty funny they called it Tues Downhill. Wonder if its supposed to be Tuesday? Which in that case makes absolutely no sense. Sunday, I get. Saturday is stretching it. But Tuesday, race is over, everyones gone home except for the people left to clean the mountain.
 

FullMonty

Chimp
Nov 29, 2009
96
0
so it's a horst link bike but the shock is actuated by a second set of seatstays welded to the first set and connected at the pivot end by a chunk of aluminum that does nothing except for keeping the end of the "shockstays" from shearing off?
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
1,605
Warsaw :/
so it's a horst link bike but the shock is actuated by a second set of seatstays welded to the first set and connected at the pivot end by a chunk of aluminum that does nothing except for keeping the end of the "shockstays" from shearing off?
Didn't you know that more = better? At least the marketing dept knows that ;)
 

Kanye West

220# bag of hacktastic
Aug 31, 2006
3,741
473
It looks like a 951 and a Demo gang-banged a Devinci Wilson and neither are making child support payments.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,507
4,758
Australia
I've seen worse bikes from "better" companies. Not bad really although for the price I'd look around more.
 

spocomptonrider

sportin' the CROCS
Nov 30, 2007
1,412
118
spokanistan
Frame and Shock will be $2399 (Fox RC4) TR450
Vs. 1862$ for this abortion... I'm not good at math but that doesn't equal 1600$ more like $537.

(I was referring to the frame prices though.)
 
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norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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Frame and Shock will be $2399 (Fox RC4) TR450
Vs. 1862$ for this abortion... I'm not good at math but that doesn't equal 1600$ more like $537.

(I was referring to the frame prices though.)
That what i was suggesting earlier - frame price is not that much of a deal. Around here the price of the YT and TR are even closer if you talk about frames but building a whole bike on the same components would be much more expensive. (Ie you wouldn't even buy TR + boxxer team for that price)
 

spocomptonrider

sportin' the CROCS
Nov 30, 2007
1,412
118
spokanistan
That what i was suggesting earlier - frame price is not that much of a deal. Around here the price of the YT and TR are even closer if you talk about frames but building a whole bike on the same components would be much more expensive. (Ie you wouldn't even buy TR + boxxer team for that price)
The complete is a pretty smokin deal but the frame price seems fairly standard, I would much rather go with the race proven and more reputable Transition over the upstart (not to mention uglier) thing posted above. You could probably get away with buying the complete, stripping it and selling the frame and still coming away on top.

2010 Boxxer Team
Avid Elixir
E13 SRS+
X9 Der shifter
Boobar
Alex Rims
Division (?) pedals

That stuff alone would cost well over 1000 then you could sell the (unused) frame for a little less than what it retails for and voila, sweet build kit for a better frame.
 
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Straya

Monkey
Jul 11, 2008
863
3
Straya
Fvck I would laugh if this frame/design took a second off every racers times. Can you imagine the struggles between image and results that some people would have to have with themselves?
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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The complete is a pretty smokin deal but the frame price seems fairly standard, I would much rather go with the race proven and more reputable Transition over the upstart (not to mention uglier) thing posted above. You could probably get away with buying the complete, stripping it and selling the frame and still coming away on top.

2010 Boxxer Team
Avid Elixir
E13 SRS+
X9 Der shifter
Boobar
Alex Rims
Division (?) pedals

That stuff alone would cost well over 1000 then you could sell the (unused) frame for a little less than what it retails for and voila, sweet build kit for a better frame.
Division is their own brand of slightly (not always) modified catalogue stuff. I'm pretty sure their hubs is very similar to an existing chosen model.
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,646
1,217
Nilbog
man i would look carefully in the classifieds, you might be able to find a bike that was a hardcore internet rider's bike (they are out there)...good indicator is the crank, see if it's rubbed at all...you could get a killer used bike for prob 2800 if you buy the right one.
 

bansheefr

Monkey
Dec 27, 2004
337
0
Not too sure about the design, but all in all its not a bad looking bike.

I think most people would agree that the new Mongoose Boot'r is well priced at $4,000 with its build... While this bike is spec'd a little cheaper X.9 vs X.0, Hussefelt vs Holzfeller cranks, Steel vs Alloy E.13, etc. it is more than 20% less at $3,100. Whatever your flavor, it is nice to see more budget minded bikes with competitive builds.

This looks like fun too...
 

Brian HCM#1

MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2001
32,119
378
Bay Area, California
I would much rather go with the race proven and more reputable Transition over the upstart (not to mention uglier) thing posted above.
To the best of my knowledge Transition hasn't been around all that long, or have they? To me they have seemed to have popped up on the scene about 3-5 years ago. A company has to start somewhere. Look at Evil, if dw & ska todd weren't involved I highly doubt they would be as successful as they are, right from the get go.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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To the best of my knowledge Transition hasn't been around all that long, or have they? To me they have seemed to have popped up on the scene about 3-5 years ago. A company has to start somewhere. Look at Evil, if dw & ska todd weren't involved I highly doubt they would be as successful as they are, right from the get go.


Seriously? 3-5 years doesn't proove anything for you? 90% of the bikes 5 years ago were crap so being at that time in dh doesn't really proove **** for me. Transition is proven for CS and the fact that recently they had no issues with their frames braking/cracking.
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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Seriously? 3-5 years doesn't proove anything for you? 90% of the bikes 5 years ago were crap so being at that time in dh doesn't really proove **** for me. Transition is proven for CS and the fact that recently they had no issues with their frames braking/cracking.
If its not a Krapile, its crap:rofl:
 

Brian HCM#1

MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2001
32,119
378
Bay Area, California
Seriously? 3-5 years doesn't proove anything for you? 90% of the bikes 5 years ago were crap so being at that time in dh doesn't really proove **** for me. Transition is proven for CS and the fact that recently they had no issues with their frames braking/cracking.
No, my point is EVERY company has to start somewhere. Everyone seems to be quickly judging this bike without riding it. Could it be the best bike ever? Maybe, maybe not.

It's not right to label bikes being crap 5 years ago. Maybe compared to today's bikes yes, but 5 years ago there were a lot of good bikes out there for what was available. Turner, Intense, Karpiel, Santa Cruz, Foes etc all made pretty damn good bikes from what I recall. It's kinda tough to label them as crap. Maybe compared to today's bikes they might be a little out dated, but then they were the sh*t.
 
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norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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I agree about the part that every company needs to start somewhere but not really on the old bikes part.

I wasn't really suggesting there were no good bikes in the old days. I was mearly suggesting a much smaller % of the bikes back in the day were worth anything. 5 years back the choice was really none as in every case there were like 2-3 good parts (and in some cases one or none). Yes intense m1, turner dhr and old karpiels were good but look at the market now. 3/4+ bikes now are problem free and very rideable while then even with a prooven frame you could still get a ****ty bike that went into hardtail mode on longer descents. The technology was available at that time simply no one thought about it. I'm not really bashing the designers but I won't call 5 year experience a reasonable reason to support a company when no one really seriously "developed" frames back then. To me a prooven frame is a frame that goes for 1 year without any known issues. I don't need company history or any other hype. It either does work or not and i don't care even if picasso and elvis made the frame together.
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
0
SC, CA
Young Talent Industries....Is it just me or does that sound more like the name of a child porn movie production company than a bike company? no thanks.