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2010 Turner DHR!!!

JCL

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Aug 31, 2008
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No, Turner have spent the last year sitting around with their thumb up the arse and are going to release a bike with dodgy pivots.



What sort of question is that? Turner don't make bikes half-arsed, everything is going to be DIALLED.
Well as you seem to know what is going on maybe you can tell me how they have done so without altering the pivot locations.

Thanks.
 

dilzy

Monkey
Sep 7, 2008
567
1
What is wrong with these guys, not prematurelly releasing a bike to the testing public only to have hundreds of warranty claims because they wanted it out by 09'. Bloody weirdo's.
 

'size

Turbo Monkey
May 30, 2007
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AZ
Well as you seem to know what is going on maybe you can tell me how they have done so without altering the pivot locations.

Thanks.
i believe DT said it was a materials and design issue, not a location issue.
 

JCL

Monkey
Aug 31, 2008
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i believe DT said it was a materials and design issue, not a location issue.
Hmmm interesting. Not sure I believe it though. With those pivot locations it almost looks designed to have really low torsional strength. He's a nice guy though so good luck to Mr Turner.
 

davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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seattle
Hmmm interesting. Not sure I believe it though. With those pivot locations it almost looks designed to have really low torsional strength. He's a nice guy though so good luck to Mr Turner.
THe re-design was two-fold:

1: More rear tire clearance. This required the links to be moved, and thus a re-do of the kenematics and layout

2: Pivot wear. The original pivot axles were 6061, and 'smaller'. THe new pivot axles are 7075, larger and the pivot bearings have been (significantly) increased in size as well (form the last functioning protos) for durability and increased stiffness across the linkage (this also required more 'room').

The 'new' frame is lighter and stiffer (via CAD measurements at this point I am sure) ... and I am confident that pivot issues have been well addresses (based on the designers prior projects..both successful and not, as well as owning several Turner frames).

How do I know all of this:
DW and DT have addressed all of these matters multiple times (I posted a quoted bit here a little while ago last time this came up)....in forums posts, and in the press release/frame info.

The answers to all of your questions are readily available if you simply did a little digging on your own.....
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
Staff member
May 23, 2002
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Geometry is purely a subjective matter, to say that you had to drill the older version to get "better" geometry is an unfair statement.
oh christ it was supposed to be a damn joke. Everybody makes mistakes, and every product is "improved" upon, even if not all the people want it. Plenty of people are happy with their apple IIc.
 

ED75

Monkey
Dec 3, 2003
174
2
France
The answers to all of your questions are readily available if you simply did a little digging on your own.....
:thumb:

"This has been the biggest single model engineering project ever for Turner Bikes. For those that actually got to ride a proto, the changes to this bike will be lighter weight and stiffer in the junction between front and rear. The lower link that has proven to be the only problem to date has shafts that are double the the size of the proto and the alloy has been changed from 6061 T-6 to 7075, and the bearings are bigger than what Lars Peyer and Tyler Moreland have been on for months, 'cause we are not in the business of selling DH frames that last months but years.

DT"
 

MDJ

Monkey
Dec 15, 2005
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San Jose, CA
'cause we are not in the business of selling DH frames that last months but years.[/B]
QUOTE]

That's the real problem with Turner. The DH fashionistas need a new bike every year so that the paint scheme matches their new TLD clown pajamas (pyjamas if you prefer). Who cares if it has a DW link. I mean really - houndstooth may work in 2010 but will be soooo last year come 2011. Why would anyone want a bike to last that long?

:rolleyes:
 

Demomonkey

Monkey
Apr 27, 2005
857
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Auckland New Zealand
:thumb:

"This has been the biggest single model engineering project ever for Turner Bikes. For those that actually got to ride a proto, the changes to this bike will be lighter weight and stiffer in the junction between front and rear. The lower link that has proven to be the only problem to date has shafts that are double the the size of the proto and the alloy has been changed from 6061 T-6 to 7075, and the bearings are bigger than what Lars Peyer and Tyler Moreland have been on for months, 'cause we are not in the business of selling DH frames that last months but years.

DT"

Its a good thing that they're looking at the lower link, otherwise we may have had another 2006 Iron Horse Sunday in a rivised configuration and Turner stickers on it.
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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Wow - looks badass!

Congrats to dw and Dave T. on the latest iteration of their creation! :cheers:

Like Davep said - the linkage was redsigned to allow for more tire clearance. I've spoken with both dw and Dave T. about this on seperate occasions and this was some of the reasoning behind it.
 

boogenman

Turbo Monkey
Nov 3, 2004
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How do I know all of this:
DW and DT have addressed all of these matters multiple times (I posted a quoted bit here a little while ago last time this came up)....in forums posts, and in the press release/frame info.

The answers to all of your questions are readily available if you simply did a little digging on your own.....
I remembered reading all that as well, just didn't remember where and didn't want to look it for others.

I just wanted to post about the new look which I like a lot more than version #1
 

ph4se_1

Chimp
Jun 17, 2008
71
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Dublin, Ireland
still have my soon to be drilled 2006 turner dhr going strong after a reweld and respray by turner,rides amazing and as good as any of the current designs today. once it dies,which probably wont be for a good while yet, then ill be getting one of these 2010/2011 weapons. they look an amazing bike so far
 

JohnnyC

Monkey
Feb 10, 2006
399
1
Rotorua, New Zealand
Geometry is purely a subjective matter, to say that you had to drill the older version to get "better" geometry is an unfair statement.
Also, those square tube frames were designed long time ago now, the definition of "better" geometry has changed a lot since then, and it didn't stop guys like Sam Blenkinsop or John Kirkcaldie killing it anyway...

I know for certain that the new DHR will be on by way they have done so much testing on the frame and they aren't going to release it until they are 100% happy with it.
 

dhr-racer

Monkey
Jan 24, 2007
410
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A, A
still have my soon to be drilled 2006 turner dhr going strong after a reweld and respray by turner,rides amazing and as good as any of the current designs today. once it dies,which probably wont be for a good while yet, then ill be getting one of these 2010/2011 weapons. they look an amazing bike so far
my 05 as well, im doing the drill out next weekend before it goes for paint.

this one looks great, im excited that they put so much work into this frame with so many company's churning out so many dh bikes now without this much thought. looks like my next DH frame will be a turner as well, but when the 05 has taken its last chute
 

Leethal

Turbo Monkey
Oct 27, 2001
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Avondale (Phoenix)
I hope it comes out soon, would really like to find a Large round tube version for cheap.. either not many were made or people are holding out for the DW link version.
 

acair422

Monkey
Aug 20, 2003
552
2
i'm surprised no one's asked this already, but what's the expected release for the frame...I remember calling Turner at the beginning of winter and they were optimistic for a spring release but it seems like that might not be happening...