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Two rings or One ring?

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
46
north jersey
So as many of you know, im building a 4x/dj/slalom/xc/miniDH/jack of all trades bike. The weight goal is around 30 pounds(although no idea if close to that or not until im done.)

So far its a wildcard frame with a DHX air.
Will be getting a used 36 TALAS
WHeels will be hope pro 2 to 819s VIA DT swiss spokes.
Code 5 brakes(have them)
SLX drivetrain (have that too)

So im down to cranks, the obvious choice woudl be to get middleburns and a LG1 i have. However for climbing would it be better to get 2 ring XT cranks. I feel that whenver im in 1st on my downhill bike(40-28) it feels so "spinny" that im not going anywhere, so id guess with a 36/38 in front with a 36 rear that i would not need a granny gear. That being said, even ****ty xc bikes come with them, should i have 1. I would also have a DRS if i ran 2 rings. the PRIMARY use will be gated racing, but that wont start until may. i feel that the weight gain will overpower the possible gear ranges i could get.
 

djjohnr

Turbo Monkey
Apr 21, 2002
3,012
1,704
Northern California
If you need to ask...you probably don't need a double. It all depends on what you encounter on your rides. I regularly have to climb steep fireroads on my AM/mini-dh bike, so a granny gear is mandatory.
 

Brad23

Monkey
Jan 9, 2004
236
0
West Oakland
I switched from a dual ring setup to single this year and love it. Way smoother, less wear, less weight, etc. I'll never go back to dual ring for DH, but getting the perfect gearing can be a challenge too.
 

WBC

Monkey
Aug 8, 2003
578
1
PNW
I'd run a 34t ring with an 11-34 in the back. That's what I usually run and it works well for me, even with some steep climbs. The only time I'd like to get into a lower gear, it's usually faster to walk anyway.

That said, if you like to ride technical uphill singletrack, a granny might make a big difference.
 

DirtyMike

Turbo Fluffer
Aug 8, 2005
14,437
1,017
My own world inside my head
Unless your planning on also using it for some longer climbs, then go with a single... Most of what youi listed for what you want to use it will have no need for a granny ring, and youlll still have plenty to get up and pedal when you need a bit as it is.

I think either a 36 or a 34 in the front, with a 34 or 32 for a low range inthe rear will bhe just fine
 

banj

Monkey
Apr 3, 2002
379
0
Ottawa, Ontario
Another vote for single. That's what I have on my do it all hardtail.

Since you already have the cranks/guide for it, try it out for a while and see if you still think you need a granny.
 

TomBo

Monkey
Jan 13, 2004
300
0
Calgary,Alberta
I roll with 36 / 11-34 for do it all play bike. But I walk most climbs. What fun is it to spin along at walking speeds? I say go for a 1x9 setup.
 

BMCarter

Monkey
Oct 10, 2007
297
0
Santa Barbara
My $.02

I have always HATED front derailleurs, so all of my bikes have been setup with a single ring, varried in size from a 32 on the 5" bike, to a 38 on the dh bike.

I recently picked up a 2010 Enduro and have come to LOVE front derailleurs (if setup properly). I'm running the new SLX FD designed for 2x9 with an x9 shifter. Love the system, its so nice to be able to drop to the granny for steeper sections of climbs, or long climbs in general. The bike also came with a command post which I love as well, pop it up for climbing sections, drop down to rip the singletrack.

My suggestion is that if you are going to be doing any serious climbing, opt for the double. At least around here we have ~3000 feet of vertical just minutes from downtown. I couldn't imagine spinning for 2 hours without the granny.

EDIT: If you plan on doing any racing with it, its pretty easy to just remove the FD and throw on a different chainring. Its what I will do with my Enduro if I end up racing any courses that dont require the DH bike. I've got a spare chainguide, single ring and a short seatpost to save the weight.
 
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greengreer

Monkey
Apr 27, 2008
173
0
NC
I have a similar bike to the one you are building at I am running a single ring 34t with a 11-34 out back. The bike is more oriented to the gravity side of things but it climbs pretty well. On my more pedally hardtail I am running a dual ring with a blackspire stinger guide. I just changed the gearing to 36/22 with an 11-28 cassette. The 22 is still a bit small so I may go 24 or even 38/26, but I have also been thinking about going to a single ring setup on this bike too. I guess what I am trying to say is if I were you I would choose single ring. Also, this may not be applicable to your chainguide/frame but on my do-it-all rig I too have the slx cranks, and with the e13 LS1 guide it is hard to get it spaced correctly due to the granny tabs. I ended up grinding mine off...
 

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Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
46
north jersey
So im PROBABLY going to get middle burn cranks, and run an older LG1 that i have, light and cheap. Thanks for the help but im not buying them this minute, so any other opinions are welcome.