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frango

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I don't know... I am not an expert in high pivots and complicated chain lines... but it looks sooo chunky/bulky?
Any1 can translate the essence of the article?
 

Trekrules

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Apr 12, 2007
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That's the upper pulley system,same function as on the corsairs,canfields,treks etc.Looks like the shock is a 3.5'' stroke?
 
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miuan

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Jan 12, 2007
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what do you think?
it look good
Agreed here. My wishes for the production version:
* make it pedal well
* keep the pulley from breaking
* offer a decent priced build
* do some design tweaks (this is just a proto, I see)
All in all it should be a very capable bike... looking forward to see one in flesh.
 

kidwithbike

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Apr 16, 2007
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it looks to me like the "fin" is the brake mount...

on the driveside perhaps they just cut off the lower mount...
could it be that the two dropouts are identical to save cost?
 

'size

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google translate:

The GHOST A.T.G. Pro Downhill team is with this weapon in the upcoming season go to the start.

With a spring travel of 200mm, the bike represents an absolutely unique combination. This consists of (1) a very low average ratio of 2.25: 1 (shock length 267mm with 89mm stroke), (2) a revolutionary GHOST's needle-bearing technology in the damper, and (3) a "pedal-kickback" elimination pulley system .
This triple combination provides excellent Hinterbauperformance.

The low ratio more stroke per travel is available. A larger volume of oil moving at an easier to monitor Ölflusssteuerung result. This is both a much more precise damping vote feasible, and the larger volume of oil can absorb the heat better and better to derive a correspondingly larger cooling area. Thus the setting for the entire descent remains largely constant.

Through the use of a needle bearing in the shock absorber eye (GHOST Needle Bearing System), the frictional forces at the damper mounting reduces to an absolute minimum. The coefficients of friction in the suspension dampers are mainly responsible for the high breakaway torque.
Because these breakaway during driving must overcome a number of times per second, is here recorded an enormous amount of profit. The elimination of these forces by using a needle bearing, has an extremely sensitive and sensitive response to the episode.

The bogey-roll is an ingenious Umlenkrollensystem and is responsible for ensuring that the forces are PedalKickBack losgekuppelt the spring system.
This means that no longer operation of the spring by the weight of the driver, which acts on the pedals, is impaired. By using the bogey-roll the chain extension approaches zero and prevents the spring process further.
Furthermore, a high swing pivot point possible, which provides an optimal Rader uplift curve safely.
The Aufstellmomente are much greater for a high vibratory bearing pivot point, which in turn ensures a much higher power in a completely neutral einflussfrei working suspension.
This differs from conventional rear end is extremely noticeable.

The models will be officially launched in the spring. But now we show you the first pictures of the prototype.
 

time-bomb

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May 2, 2008
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right here -> .
I like Horst Link bikes and I like high pivot single pivot bikes. Could two rights equal a bigger right? Me wonders.

Didn't bother to read the translation so if this was already mentioned, sorry. But I am guessing they did this to eliminate the need for a floating brake arm.

Looks cool, I'd throw a leg over it and give it a try.
 

frango

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Jun 13, 2007
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'size, google translate is useless...
I would like to see non-drive side. Brake mount look kinda weird...
 

w00dy

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The dropout looks like it's designed to distribute load more evenly on the seat stay. I'm thinking they are over-engineering it a bit. Being German, I'm surprised it doesn't have more speed holes.
 

davep

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Jan 7, 2005
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I like Horst Link bikes and I like high pivot single pivot bikes. Could two rights equal a bigger right? Me wonders.

Didn't bother to read the translation so if this was already mentioned, sorry. But I am guessing they did this to eliminate the need for a floating brake arm.

Looks cool, I'd throw a leg over it and give it a try.

Horst bikes in no way eliminate brake induced forces on the suspension. That is simply Spec marketing BS that is 100% false. The brake mounted member still rotates WRT the main frame as the suspension compresses.
 

Sandwich

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The dropout looks like it's designed to distribute load more evenly on the seat stay. I'm thinking they are over-engineering it a bit. Being German, I'm surprised it doesn't have more speed holes.
or pnuematic, or electronic, or more proprietary.
 

UiUiUiUi

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Feb 2, 2003
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Anyone know where they placed the needle bearing they keep talking about?

Is it on the shock mount?
yeah the needle bearing should be in the shock mount at least according to the text ontheir website they claim this reduces friction within the suspension system by a huge amount and leads to a more sensible suspension performance...

not sure whether this is true or not but if they want that they should add something similar to those obtainium bearing things for the spring of the shock.
 

klunky

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Oct 17, 2003
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anyone else think its kinda weird that that bike has a dhx 4.0 and hussefelt cranks on it?
No - I have seen there team at world cups and those guys were riding cookie cutter frames with deore parts!
I would not be rushing out to buy a bike from ghost...
 

dirtdigger

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Mar 18, 2007
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Well its about time someone used the horst link in this lay out, I'm sure it'll work great, tho I'm not a fan of how the horst link reacts to braking forces.

I was looking at building pretty much the same thing a few years back but went for the single hi pivot/linkage design instead.
 

nelsonjm

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Feb 16, 2007
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Can you explain your comment dirt? I was under the impression the horst link did good things related to braking (i.e. keeping the rear from stiffening up).
 

dirtdigger

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Mar 18, 2007
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Can you explain your comment dirt? I was under the impression the horst link did good things related to braking (i.e. keeping the rear from stiffening up).
Yeah if you only look at what the suspension is doing then the horst link works a treat but if you take into account the effects on the frame's geometry the reality is a different story.
 

Percy

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May 2, 2005
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Yeah if you only look at what the suspension is doing then the horst link works a treat but if you take into account the effects on the frame's geometry the reality is a different story.
Ahh, what?:confused:

Having ridden a few horse link bikes they do brake very well, so can you elucidate upon your comments for our education and edification?