As the title says. I am thinking of getting the 2010 Glory 1. I was going to just get the frame but they don't make an xs in frame only. So I am thinking of the 1 and swapping out parts I already have.
I am thinking of getting the 2010 Glory 1 any thoughts
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good idea but, don't think they'll be available for a while yet!
I already have Hugi FR hubs which are DT 440s. I am going to lace them to 721s or 729s not sure yet. I have Saint brakes, Deity Dirty 30s, Point One Direct mount stem, Thompson MasterPiece seat post, Specialized Toupe 130 ti seat and Point One Podiums.
According to my LBS the 1 xs is availavble. I will know this week.
Get it.
Such a good deal... I'm seriously thinking about one because of the price and spec.
Such a good deal... I'm seriously thinking about one because of the price and spec.
Thanks RPK, that's what my lbs told me. I told him to pull the trigger on it so hopefully.
the Head angle needs to be moar slacker
slack enough for me. My last 3 frames were an 04 demo9, 07 sxt and an 09 demo7. so I am not worried about it.
nah it was a joke to stir the pot, personally im not a huge fan of the 59 degree headangles.
yah, can't have a giant glory thread without someone prodding on how rediculous
the head angle is. Actually it is Giant's numbers that are wrong. Works out to be about a full
degree slacker than the numbers online state.
Always haters no matter what. I was on Giant and got sick of hearing the HA crap.
It rode great to me, Couldn't get on the new glory because avail. was not there.
Now on Trek which is similar design and love it. It is slacker than the Giant haha
But, now all the haters comment on how thin the Trek tubing is and how it's going
to dent or break. Point being that no matter what you ride somebody will have to
state how jealous they are that you have a sic bike! Enjoy the Giant!
Just curious of how tall you are? Small Giant frames are pretty tight! XS? Are you sure?
the head angle is. Actually it is Giant's numbers that are wrong. Works out to be about a full
degree slacker than the numbers online state.
Always haters no matter what. I was on Giant and got sick of hearing the HA crap.
It rode great to me, Couldn't get on the new glory because avail. was not there.
Now on Trek which is similar design and love it. It is slacker than the Giant haha
But, now all the haters comment on how thin the Trek tubing is and how it's going
to dent or break. Point being that no matter what you ride somebody will have to
state how jealous they are that you have a sic bike! Enjoy the Giant!
Just curious of how tall you are? Small Giant frames are pretty tight! XS? Are you sure?
I am 5'3" with a really short inseam. Stand over height is always my biggest problem. That and seat to ground height.
Cool, Not sure about fit I know my buddy rides a small at 5'4"
But, not sure about his inseam. Everybody has different body geometry
sounds like you've got it figured out just curious about the size choice.
Of course it's always nice to throw a leg over a couple diff. sizes to check.
I am almost positive the 09 Glory has the same measurements for those
sizes. Although, the Med. grew an inch or so.
But, not sure about his inseam. Everybody has different body geometry
sounds like you've got it figured out just curious about the size choice.
Of course it's always nice to throw a leg over a couple diff. sizes to check.
I am almost positive the 09 Glory has the same measurements for those
sizes. Although, the Med. grew an inch or so.
well TT wise my demo 7 is 20.5, I ride with the seat slammed and the length fits fine with a 50mm stem and stand over is 32" at the point Giant gives their's at.
So the Glory having a 20.6 TT and 28.9 Stand over theoretically the xs should fit me just the way I want.
I know numbers are never exact or can mean nothing but if the small Glory has a 21.9 TT length that is just a bit too long for me DH wise, unless I use a shorter stem. Problem is I have a brand new Point One DM and i would rather stay with that stem
So the Glory having a 20.6 TT and 28.9 Stand over theoretically the xs should fit me just the way I want.
I know numbers are never exact or can mean nothing but if the small Glory has a 21.9 TT length that is just a bit too long for me DH wise, unless I use a shorter stem. Problem is I have a brand new Point One DM and i would rather stay with that stem
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Cool hope it works out good for you bro, cool bike for sure.
the measured HA numbers from a couple of sources are slacker than the giant geo table, by 0.5 to 1 degree from what i've seen.
i remember reading about a UK company offering slacker-izing inserts for the head tube. not sure how that works on the 1.125 end...?
i remember reading about a UK company offering slacker-izing inserts for the head tube. not sure how that works on the 1.125 end...?
Good thread about the headangle.
"Works Components" is developing the headset for the tapered headtube. Angle can be slackened 1.5 degrees. Yuroshek has one for testing currently... Also, Elka is also testing a 2.75 stroke shock with a shorter eye-to-eye as well.
Called my lbs today my Glory 1 is on its way. I can't wait but Creek doesn't open till May 1st. Have my parts to change out all ready
yes I do.
just picked up my Glory 1. Swapped out the stem, bars, grips, seat and seatpost so far.
Point one DM stem, Point One Podium pedals, cut down Thompson MP seat post, Ti Specialized Toupe seat, Deity Dirty 30's cut to 28".
37.04lbs
Still have to swap out the brakes from the Elixer r's to Saints.
pics soon
The new Demo 8 I is cheaper, has very similar spec and in my opinion has better geometry. If you're demos have served you well, I dont see a good reason to switch to the Giant.
Boxxer Team Vs Race, DHX 4 Vs a vivid? Atlas Vs the FSA's? Think the Giant has the demo beat for a build....
You've got a point, the Boxxer Team is a nice bump up in spec for sure, but you can drop the damper in the race and make it more or less a team. I hate raceface cranks, so would actually take the the FSA. And it's a Vivid 4.1 vs a DHX 4, pretty much dead even there, just preference. Considering the Demo is 325 dollars cheaper, I would say they are pretty well matched. 1.5 degrees slacker in the HT and .75 inches lower in the BB would be the deciding factor for me.
Demo HA is 63 and the BB is 3/4 lower. Every Glory I've measured is 65+ with a 14" plus BB.
Spec doesn't mean ****. You got the right bike
Just trying to help the bike shopping world, one forum post at a time.
You know I was really looking forward to that bike. Sure it looked a bit steep in those photo's of Rando but the production bike would be sorted right? I discounted the listed geo as it's often wrong. Anyway I've measured a couple and the listed geo is pretty accurate. Did a few runs with others at Whistler and everyone thought the bike was so bad they would change the geo or nobody would buy it. Anyway turns out Giant US don't really have a clue what they're doing or give a crap which is basically the opposite of Specialized R&D.
Such a shame as the engineering is second to none IMO.
Actual HA measures 62.7deg. I haven't personally measured that but it's from a trusted source.
You don't really have to go as far as measuring all the angles manually.
Just open a couple of browser tabs with catalogue bike pics and drag one over the other to see the difference between fork angles.
I'm not saying it's completely precise, but it's easy and says a lot.
I compared the following pics:
http://www.nrgcycles.com.au/files/images/demo7.jpg
http://bikes.konaworld.com/09/09bikes/large/2K9_STINKYSIX.jpg
http://www.freeborn.co.uk/_gfx/products/000883/detail/WILSON4.jpg
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_generated/_generated_no/bikes/models/images/2000/2010/Glory_0_silver_blue_GE_GA_GU_72dpiWIDE.jpg
http://www.jacksbikes.com/contents/media/giant_glory_dh_2009.jpg
As you can see, all the other bikes incl. 2009 Glory are slacker than 2010 Glory, hell even the freeride Kona with a 160mm fork is, if only by a tiny bit.
As long as the pics on Giant website reflect the production bike, and all pictured bikes are perpendicular to the ground, I feel confident to say the bike is steep for a modern DH bike.
Just open a couple of browser tabs with catalogue bike pics and drag one over the other to see the difference between fork angles.
I'm not saying it's completely precise, but it's easy and says a lot.
I compared the following pics:
http://www.nrgcycles.com.au/files/images/demo7.jpg
http://bikes.konaworld.com/09/09bikes/large/2K9_STINKYSIX.jpg
http://www.freeborn.co.uk/_gfx/products/000883/detail/WILSON4.jpg
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_generated/_generated_no/bikes/models/images/2000/2010/Glory_0_silver_blue_GE_GA_GU_72dpiWIDE.jpg
http://www.jacksbikes.com/contents/media/giant_glory_dh_2009.jpg
As you can see, all the other bikes incl. 2009 Glory are slacker than 2010 Glory, hell even the freeride Kona with a 160mm fork is, if only by a tiny bit.
As long as the pics on Giant website reflect the production bike, and all pictured bikes are perpendicular to the ground, I feel confident to say the bike is steep for a modern DH bike.
do you realize that theres about an inch of stanchion above the fork clamps on that 40?? if you put the fork legs all the way down it will be much slacker, yes it will raise the BB but with the right spring rate and sag it will ride just fine.
Yes the previous bike was 64deg and 14" flat BB. Hardly state of the art but to go the wrong way from those numbers a major f**k up.
I haven't measured the bike with a Totem but the A-C can't be more than a 10 Boxxer can it ?
Funny on Giant's website the xs is 65 where all the other frames are 65.5 not the biggest deal. What I did also is remove the spacers from under the top clamp and slid the stanchions down. Giant puts quite a few spacers under the top crown. Even the hs top cap is pretty tall.
I am also going to change the rear tire to a 2.5 High roller, since that is pretty much the only rear tire o have ran for the last 6yrs. Not sure about the front, I usually run a Minion f 3c but I may try the stock Mich
I am also going to change the rear tire to a 2.5 High roller, since that is pretty much the only rear tire o have ran for the last 6yrs. Not sure about the front, I usually run a Minion f 3c but I may try the stock Mich
In the interests of your own personal safety, I must advise you against this...
They are that bad....? Never used anything but maxxis, intense, and kenda for dh
Lots of people are in love with slack HAs nowadays, but my '09 Boot'r has the same conservative 65.5-degree HA as the Glory and I've yet to feel any issues with stability or cornering.
It's also worth noting that the V-10s HA is 67 degrees, and it's yet to have any trouble with anything the World Cup can throw at it (though having Peaty and Minnaar aboard surely doesn't hurt.)
It's also worth noting that the V-10s HA is 67 degrees, and it's yet to have any trouble with anything the World Cup can throw at it (though having Peaty and Minnaar aboard surely doesn't hurt.)
Ar we talking about reality or numers on the web? Coz, on paper, it wasn't http://www2.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/mountain/1281/29369/?collections_id=3
Many ppl have said that numbers on Giant's 2010 web-site are wrong. My bike, amongs others new Glories, proves it.
Totem's A-C is 5mm shorten than Boxxer's IIRC
yeah on paper the new Glory has the same ht angle as last years except for the 2010 xs wich is 65.0. I haven't measured my ht angle yet but with the spacers removed from under the top crown, the boxxer stanchions slid down over an inch more now. Also a 2.5 HR on the rear and the stock front tire the bb height is under 14". 13.90" to be exact measured from center of bb. So untill people actually ride it and stop e-speculating and listening to the e-rumors. I wish they would stop ragging on the Glory
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