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brungeman

I give a shirt
Jan 17, 2006
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da Burgh
fakken saweet! i have been waiting to see video of the yard. Thanks for the inspiration!

snow is finally melting off, time to stack and pack!
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,052
6
austin
nice.........

i especially like this part:

. . . . luck has nothing to do with it.
 

pnj

Turbo Monkey till the fat lady sings
Aug 14, 2002
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seattle
I want to see better shots of the yard/flow/layout.

good stuff though.
 

Randomshot

Monkey
Mar 12, 2009
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Ft. Collins
so out of pure admiration for your skills and hard work your neighbor suggested you use his yard too? sounds like a fantastic neighbor! inspirational as always. thanks for sharing Zach!
 

jasride

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2006
1,069
5
PA
Total raddnesss! What's better to do with your yard than crush berms and work the grill!?!?!

love this s**t!!!!
 

northshorerat

Monkey
Oct 7, 2001
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Im using your backyard as an example to attempt to get my GF to let me build a pumper in our backyard. I just wish we had the dirt that you do.
 

meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
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I have watched it over and over again. looked at the photos.
looks rad! I'm looking to redo my track and got some great ideas.
can you tell me acouple of thing? what are the radius of your berms and what are the dimensions of your area you had to work with.
I mad a bunch of mistakes on my first track and looking to avoid them again.
 

Zach Dank

Turbo Monkey
Jun 28, 2005
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Gnarcal
I have watched it over and over again. looked at the photos.
looks rad! I'm looking to redo my track and got some great ideas.
can you tell me acouple of thing? what are the radius of your berms and what are the dimensions of your area you had to work with.
I mad a bunch of mistakes on my first track and looking to avoid them again.
Radius of my berms???


No dude. No.

Build a hundred berms then you will have the perfect radius.
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,052
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austin
I have watched it over and over again. looked at the photos.
looks rad! I'm looking to redo my track and got some great ideas.
can you tell me acouple of thing? what are the radius of your berms and what are the dimensions of your area you had to work with.
I mad a bunch of mistakes on my first track and looking to avoid them again.
post some pics or video of your track and we could make suggestions....
 

don

Turbo Monkey
Nov 8, 2001
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Rumson, NJ
Zach-

That backyard pump looks so rad. Hard to see exactly what the layout is but it looks fast and hetic which is good. Parts of the vid clip reminded me of a supercross moto. I think if you can't have proper DJ's in the yard then something like that is a very good option.

I got some good ideas from the pics and vid for my backyard setup and started moving some dirt on it yesterday. Pump tracks can be a little on the boring side but if done right they can't be beat for the convenience.

I have watched it over and over again. looked at the photos.
looks rad! I'm looking to redo my track and got some great ideas.
can you tell me acouple of thing? what are the radius of your berms and what are the dimensions of your area you had to work with.
I mad a bunch of mistakes on my first track and looking to avoid them again.
For berm radius you can do what you do when making a ramp tranny. Go in the middle of your turn and take a long ass 2 by and mark a line keeping one end at the pivot. Guys like Zach have built so many berms that they can just tell by sight. I cheat a bit and mark it out but there still comes from a lot of trial and error to get it perfect. Most people can make a good roller or a decent set of DJ's but true digging Jedi's can make berms where you can lay it over and come out with more speed than you went in with.

As far as area - see what you have and pack as much sh!t in there as possible. If you have over a 100' straight you should be able to make some jumpable sets in there.
 

meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
35
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Thanks. I'm trying to figure out how to turn the big 180 berm after the table tops in to a 90 then put some more jumps in the back
line.
But I want to be able to still
transfer back in to the back line from
the center roller line.
Any ideas? Some kinda Y hip jump or something?
I'd hate to ruin a good berm just to experiment. But that big 12 radius 180 berm is such a speed killer. And the transfer from berm to berm can't be done because the 90 is set to far forwards. So any ideas for more speed making line for mor jumpning would be great.
Zach your **** has such nice flow and seem to carry more speed for some jumps.
After you roll-in down the jump line it's all pump which is cool but more jumping would be more funnerer
 

Stoked

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2004
1,809
1
LI, NY
Thanks. I'm trying to figure out how to turn the big 180 berm after the table tops in to a 90 then put some more jumps in the backline.
nice spot btw. like you said, 90 the berm and maybe shorten it a little. make the exit a lip to landing. you should be roasting at that point.
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,052
6
austin
i like to go ride concrete parks and imagine whatever line you tak around a bowl corners as a path....you don't always take the same line around cement bowl corners... if the rider goes low to high in the corner then low again, if you were to cut out just a 3 foot wide path, you'd have a ribbon berm. people don't always go horizontal around a turn. there's also the high-to-low-to high way of going around a cement pool bowl corner.... that's basically why you see berm designs with a tall roller entry and exits--it forces you low into the bottom of the berm, then you exit going up--sometimes those type of berms end up being ridden more like a macaroni tilted at 45 degrees rather than horizontal with the ground...... kinda hard to explain without pictures/drawings....

 
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meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
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here is a video of it.
you can transfer it from one way but not at speed. but not so great the other way.
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,052
6
austin
http://vimeo.com/10405534

here is a video of it you can transfer one way but not the other and not at speed.
hey you got some good stuff going on there! ... in the other video, of Rory, http://vimeo.com/10407304 i'm digging how much more speed he has. but, in the first video it looks like the two tables are relatively low speed jumps (what are they, about 8 foot gaps?) ... add another 4 feet of height on your drop-in and make both of those jumps longer, up to 12 feet or so and you won't need to mess with the first 180 berm because then the speed will match up better with the radius, plus the thing overall will be more fun. that's my 2 cents.
 

jasride

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2006
1,069
5
PA
hey you got some good stuff going on there! ... in the other video, of Rory, http://vimeo.com/10407304 i'm digging how much more speed he has. but, in the first video it looks like the two tables are relatively low speed jumps (what are they, about 8 foot gaps?) ... add another 4 feet of height on your drop-in and make both of those jumps longer, up to 12 feet or so and you won't need to mess with the first 180 berm because then the speed will match up better with the radius, plus the thing overall will be more fun. that's my 2 cents.

agreed, cool overall layout! Agree with the 2 cents too, lower longer tables with a bit higher roll in and it might flow a little better. and maybe instead of tables, bowl them out a little and make them a shallow double that way when you're coming back and you dont have as much speed, you can pump'um or manual'um back to finish the loop.
 

meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
35
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hey you got some good stuff going on there! ... in the other video, of Rory, http://vimeo.com/10407304 i'm digging how much more speed he has. but, in the first video it looks like the two tables are relatively low speed jumps (what are they, about 8 foot gaps?) ... add another 4 feet of height on your drop-in and make both of those jumps longer, up to 12 feet or so and you won't need to mess with the first 180 berm because then the speed will match up better with the radius, plus the thing overall will be more fun. that's my 2 cents.

10 ft lip to landing
I can't raised the role in with out getting in trouble with the neighbors

another video
 

buckoW

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2007
3,786
4,727
Champery, Switzerland
10 ft lip to landing
I can't raised the role in with out getting in trouble with the neighbors

Looks like fun! I would say that for the berms where you are loosing speed try making 2 90° turns instead of one 180° with a big radius. You can make 2 90° turns tighter and taller at the end of the first straight and it could spit you out with more speed.

Looks like a lot of fun how it is though.
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,052
6
austin
10 ft lip to landing
I can't raise the role in with out getting in trouble with the neighbors

another video
rad, that video is definitely better! looks like you have a fun scene going.

the dude in the red t-shirt and red helmet at 00:45 is going pretty fast throughout. he keeps speed through the first 180 turn, but he racer'd the first tabe and speed-jumped the second one to do it.



so there's a few options:
1. i agree with buckoW, 90 degree to 90 degree would be faster at normal cruising speed.
2. or a tighter 180 berm. i have had this same predicament before. a 180 berm is like a sideways half pipe. a 12 foot transition radius is a monster vert ramp radius. if you do 90 to 90 with 7'6" transitions then it's more like a sideways bmx mini ramp or concrete park tranny.
3. or do a wood wall ride or build the dirt way high, so that you go high in the middle and exit low. even a quarter pipe could work to turn around... but kinda gets away from the pump track spirit though...

looks like the 90 degree right berm at 00:53 is pretty fast. then the 180 right after it at 00:55 seems fast. but then the 180 at 1:02 he comes out of a little slower and takes 2 cranks. how do those two 180 berms compare radius wise... or is the yard on a slight gradient?

overall great job.
 

meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
35
0
Thanks for the input. Great ideas. I was thinking a tall curved wall ride in the first 180.
The yard wad laser leveled. That up grade is were the last two loads of dirt were dumped so it now is alittle up hill
 

meattray

Chimp
Dec 27, 2009
35
0
sorry to high your thread Zack.
you're a bad ass and your track is my inspiration. mad skill, mad props to you!
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
10 ft lip to landing
I can't raised the role in with out getting in trouble with the neighbors

Looks like fun! I would say that for the berms where you are loosing speed try making 2 90° turns instead of one 180° with a big radius. You can make 2 90° turns tighter and taller at the end of the first straight and it could spit you out with more speed.
Plus you can pump them.


That's actually the first thing I thought when I saw that pic you posted. No way to generate speed in the bigger turns.

Place looks fun as hell though.