RM DH Forum is an Uselses Pile of Dung

I found always the best way to get answers,is to call the vendor for tech support and talk to someone who actualy knows wat they are talking about.

Tootrikky said:

Ok so now that I got your attention, I would like to suggest adding some relevant stickys to the DH forum? Tuning/FAQ sticky's for the RCX4, DHX5, Boxxer, Vivid, DH40 would be awesome. Using the Search Function is time consuming, but most of all wading through a bunch of idiots replies who seem to be just trying to up their post counts, in order to get to a few gems of info, is frusturating to say the least.

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while I may agree with your query, have you tried selecting the "display as posts" function instead of "display threads"? I've found that to be useful in being able to sort through the rubbish.

Tootrikky said:

Ok so now that I got your attention, I would like to suggest adding some relevant stickys to the DH forum? Tuning/FAQ sticky's for the RCX4, DHX5, Boxxer, Vivid, DH40 would be awesome. Using the Search Function is time consuming, but most of all wading through a bunch of idiots replies who seem to be just trying to up their post counts, in order to get to a few gems of info, is frusturating to say the least.

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Why do something like this??? It makes to much sense!!! Let's put a sticky up for the tuning of a bike that less than 1% of the people have.

Tootrikky said:

Ok so now that I got your attention, I would like to suggest adding some relevant stickys to the DH forum? Tuning/FAQ sticky's for the RCX4, DHX5, Boxxer, Vivid, DH40 would be awesome. Using the Search Function is time consuming, but most of all wading through a bunch of idiots replies who seem to be just trying to up their post counts, in order to get to a few gems of info, is frusturating to say the least.

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p-spec said:

I found always the best way to get answers,is to call the vendor for tech support and talk to someone who actualy knows wat they are talking about.

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- might I add going to their website too, most usually have some good info about their products, or google.

quoted for truth. this should always be the first place to go.....unless after hours, on a weekend, during holidays, or you are looking to get ripped on a bit by your fellow mates or for a good laugh.

I found using the search function on this is, dare I say, too tricky.


Sweet, just added another post to my count. Cha-ching!

MFrider said:

Why do something like this??? It makes to much sense!!! Let's put a sticky up for the tuning of a bike that less than 1% of the people have.

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Do you know any willing to put in the time and effort, who has the knowledge and insight to make and maintain a thread like that?

You let me know, start the first post, and if it is half as useful, I will sticky it. deal?

Also: proper spelling and grammar, as mandown said. Make it friggin' readable will you?

perhaps if the a-holes posting turds here would use useful thread titles like "how to tune my RockShox Vivid" and spelled everything fully and correctly (not "zoke" or Rock Shocks") and mind the 3-letter minimum required for searches to work then things would be a bit better.

of course, i've found that it is just easier to ask the question i have, and let someone else post up a wise-ass reply of "use the search function" with a link to the thread i want

p-spec said:

I found always the best way to get answers,is to call the vendor for tech support and talk to someone who actualy knows wat they are talking about.

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You obviously never owned a marzocchi product, didn't you?

Also I always thought you go to the forums when you get no info from the manufacturer. Didn't all people do that?

emptybeer has mfg forums for several big-name products. i'm assuming those could be good resources.

I would love to learn how to tune my CCDB. Good idea OP...

Sandwich said:

Ulysses S. Pyle? What?

an FAQ sticky with links to tuning tips would work fine...not that anybody would use it.

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agree. i've been successfully breaking my own sh1t on my own just fine for ten years. instructions? psh...

norbar said:

You obviously never owned a marzocchi product, didn't you?

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Come on now...why all the hate?

Wow that would take up half if not most of the first page full of sticky's!

How about one sticky Tech data base [name title could be anything just a suggestion as long as it makes sense so people don't be lazy, inside links to threads for each listed component you suggested, one place to go, titles could be suspension, bikes wheels etc under that links to specific's.

Yes it's a bit of work but not too hard, the amount of time spent here by some would be at least a creative and positive contribution rather than just shooting people from the hip.

Just another progression to a well rounded site, I think the concept you raise is a good idea

Tootrikky said:

I figured that was the problem. Any volunteers? Davep, Socket come on fellas!

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How did I get draged into this?

The reality is that people want very different things from their suspension and the knowledge and technical ability of users here (or any large audience) is so variable, that writing an article about even a single suspension item that cover all the parts, definitions, dissasembly, assembly, tools, consumables, tuning variables from oil volumes, viscosities, shim mods, port mods, part swaps, etc, etc would take a pretty large effort... and IMO there are not enough appreciative posters here to make me want to undertake this sort of thing.

Better yet Nick, You, Steve and I (and any else who would want to positively contribute) take a weekend at whistler with the express intent of doing some suspension experimentation/tuning/swaping and keeping some sort of record of the results...

davep said:

How did I get draged into this?

The reality is that people want very different things from their suspension and the knowledge and technical ability of users here (or any large audience) is so variable, that writing an article about even a single suspension item that cover all the parts, definitions, dissasembly, assembly, tools, consumables, tuning variables from oil volumes, viscosities, shim mods, port mods, part swaps, etc, etc would take a pretty large effort... and IMO there are not enough appreciative posters here to make me want to undertake this sort of thing.

Better yet Nick, You, Steve and I (and any else who would want to positively contribute) take a weekend at whistler with the express intent of doing some suspension experimentation/tuning/swaping and keeping some sort of record of the results...

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Assuming I'm the Steve you're referring to - already doing it Did a few runs of A-line and Samurai Pizza Cat today to get a base setting for my new bike actually. I'll probably put up a 2010 Boxxer tuning thread in a month or so. One for the RC4 as well if I get round to it, maybe even the CCDB if I ever get around to getting mine rebuilt.

Gimme a yell for sure if you're coming up to Whistler though, always up for riding and/or beer.

Socket said:

Assuming I'm the Steve you're referring to - already doing it Did a few runs of A-line and Samurai Pizza Cat today to get a base setting for my new bike actually. I'll probably put up a 2010 Boxxer tuning thread in a month or so. One for the RC4 as well if I get round to it, maybe even the CCDB if I ever get around to getting mine rebuilt.

Gimme a yell for sure if you're coming up to Whistler though, always up for riding and/or beer.

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Wouldn't it be better to get someone who can ride, rather than a total hucker squid to do the testing?

toodles said:

Wouldn't it be better to get someone who can ride, rather than a total hucker squid to do the testing?

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haha, that's why I'm volunteering to do it instead of you

droplover said:

Come on now...why all the hate?

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You mean in your reality marzocchi has ban all eager and willing to provide service manuals? Because the only place I can see handing them out is the uk distri and even he claims they are like the italian mafia. No real service support from marz only - go and pay for a service at our overpriced distributor.

You guys are pretty quick to volunteer/suggest others to work on these kinds of threads.

Those threads are stuck because they're probably the most useful, comprehensive threads ever on their particular subject. That's the only reason.

If anyone writes threads on any biking subject at all that approach that level of usefulness or comprehensiveness, I will sticky them immediately. If you guys write enough, I will create a new forum to house them in. Or a new prefix that you can search by. I would love to make as much information available as possible.

So go on... get writing.

If you have any mechanical question we have a pretty good thing going on our Facebook page. Just ask Mike the Mechanic any question you want:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=250076857022&v=app_2373072738#!/topic.php?uid=250076857022&topic=12510

I'll agree, I don't understand the reason for the preferential treatment towards some products compared to others in regard to sticky'd threads. There have been plenty of valuable and resourceful threads over the years that have had the same if not more merit and deserved-ness of being a sticky. Would I like it if there was a more streamlined approach of researching product setup advice and tips? Abso-freaking-lutely!, but I'm not really how one could build a user friendly structured web database/forum that would be optimized as such. Maybe I need to start using the thread subscription feature, but I'm sure there is a better way of building a UI. (BTW, in no way do I expect RM to build their own UI)

As for the forum turning into turd. Welcome to the internet v2010. Where the DH forum is turning into a place of cheap laughs and "cool" guy 4chan'ism. It's too bad, and I wish that the mods would try to actively clean up the behavior via just deleting posts and warning members to keep the nonsensical banter in the Lounge or elsewhere like on some of the non-biking forums I frequent. It's a shame, but if this is how the owners of RM want to run their site, that is well within their right. Regarding myself, if it continues then I'll probably start thinking about making the journey back over to MTBR which believe it or not seems to be much more a valuable resource of information nowadays.

Downhill forum:

since we're on the subject.. I put together a pretty useful geometry chart for 2010 DH bikes, kinda thought that would be a nice thing to have sticky'd:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225393&highlight=geometry+chart

jonKranked said:

Downhill forum:

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...and the beauty and irony is that yes it is a business.

Inclag said:

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...and the beauty and irony is that yes it is a business.

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this forum is a business? then where's my fvcking paycheck?

jonKranked said:

this forum is a business? then where's my fvcking paycheck?

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You get paid every day, dude - just in amusement and 'non-work' work slack time!

Sandwich: thread looks good.

mandown said:

perhaps if the a-holes posting turds here would use useful thread titles like "how to tune my RockShox Vivid" and spelled everything fully and correctly (not "zoke" or Rock Shocks") and mind the 3-letter minimum required for searches to work then things would be a bit better.

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quoted for truth. Too often people post without thinking about how future generations will attempt to mine the knowledge gold with search functions.

it's particularly bad with the fvkken kiwis and aussies who can't bring themselves to spell out the full name of a product.

i grew up down unda so i can say this with authority

captainspauldin said:

Sandwich: thread looks good.

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Agreed!

Someone add rep to Sandwich for me, I "must spread more rep" first.

Sandwich, thanks for taking the time to get that going. That adds so much more value to the forum in general and certainly more value than others just bitching about something they want. Way to take the bull by the horns.

Well, wtf is "The Shop" forum for? Shouldn't most of this stuff get posted there in the first place instead of sticky's in all of the different (DH, XC, Freeride, DJ, etc) forums? .