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acair422

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Aug 20, 2003
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o i see how you can't edit us in there...phantom rider lookin pretty fast tho...even got a little drifty...idk how racer that is
 

yuroshek

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Arizona!
thanks guys, i really gotta figure out the zoom on this camera, its super touchy, its really hard to have a nice steady zoom in and out. ill get it down soon which will make the video just a bit better.
 

gemini2k

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Jul 31, 2005
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and a roost guard (??)

cool vid though
Still trying to figure out where the roost is coming from in DH. I see people around here riding with them all the time. I honestly want to know why people where them for DH. Not trying to be a smartass, honestly curious. I ask people and they just like look at me blankly and don't give an answer.
 
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DirtyMike

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Still trying to figure out where the roost is coming from in DH. I see people around here riding with them all the time. I honestly want to know why people where them for DH. Not trying to be a smartass, honestly curious. I ask people and they just like look at me blankly and don't give an answer.
While its design doesnt offer a direct line of force absorption, it does spread the impact over a larger area, thus reducing the impact force. Also offers decent protection post impact IE sliding on sharp rocks...

Overall, full blown proper chest protection si in fact better, but the roost guard does more than people give it credit.
 

DownhillR3

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Why don't you post a vid so we can see what to wear?
Evan Gilardi on Vimeo ...I am Evan.

Gemini, the reason why I personally wear a chest protector or as some say, "roost guard" is for the simple fact of hard shell protection mainly in the shoulders against trees and as Mike stated about sliding. I have been using FOX chest protectors since the first time I started riding Downhill three seasons ago after my short Moto career and luckily once the Leatt became available, it fit like a glove in the chest protector I was and still am currently using. Hope that helps somewhat to wrap your head around the reasoning.
 

DirtyMike

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http://vimeo.com/11957577 ...I am Evan.

Gemini, the reason why I personally wear a chest protector or as some say, "roost guard" is for the simple fact of hard shell protection mainly in the shoulders against trees and as Mike stated about sliding. I have been using FOX chest protectors since the first time I started riding Downhill three seasons ago after my short Moto career and luckily once the Leatt became available, it fit like a glove in the chest protector I was and still am currently using. Hope that helps somewhat to wrap your head around the reasoning.


Evan, Check these out, I think it just might fit your bill better

http://www.evs-sports.com/product/ballistic-jerseys/ultra-x-ballistic-jersey/
 

Hesh To Steel

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Dec 12, 2007
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Still trying to figure out where the roost is coming from in DH. I see people around here riding with them all the time. I honestly want to know why people where them for DH. Not trying to be a smartass, honestly curious. I ask people and they just like look at me blankly and don't give an answer.
I've gotta figure that people just look at them as another type of chest armor.


Dennis, these videos are looking great. I'm no expert, but it seems like you've got a good eye for this stuff. Props.
 

bizutch

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Will it have a nice super spongy sold like landing to "almost" rip your rear wheel out first run like 2 years ago? hah hah...

FYI, I'm just kidding. First run of the first day of practice, I boosted that thing thinking i was gonna hero it. Rear wheel nearly imbedded in the soft dirt and I gooned the lander hard. After that it was good though. :thumb:
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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i'm sure the jump will have a go-around. i also think a step down is somewhat safer than the 40ft doubles they had at Nats last year at Sol Vista.
Yeah, even if you land short with the proper skills you can still save it on a not so tall stepdown. Not so much on a double. Though I was never a fun of hucks on dh tracks.
 
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If you go into the menu on the camera there should be an option to set ZOOM speed so that it is manual or usually there are about three different pre set speeds.
 

acair422

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Aug 20, 2003
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yeah i'm not sure how many people will be hucking off that thing...however the odds of over jumping it are low....
 

bansheefr

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i'm sure the jump will have a go-around. i also think a step down is somewhat safer than the 40ft doubles they had at Nats last year at Sol Vista.
I'm sure there will be a go-around, as they have had in past years. It will be much much slower. It does look safer than the 40ft doubles at Sol Vista, except those were pro only for a reason.

Don't get me wrong... Course improvements and additions are welcome, but considering the success of the US Open has a lot to do with the number of amteur riders in attendance, that should be considered when designing the course. I'll stop being a whiney little b!tch now and see you all at Diablo next weekend.
 

norbar

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I'm sure there will be a go-around, as they have had in past years. It will be much much slower. It does look safer than the 40ft doubles at Sol Vista, except those were pro only for a reason.

Don't get me wrong... Course improvements and additions are welcome, but considering the success of the US Open has a lot to do with the number of amteur riders in attendance, that should be considered when designing the course. I'll stop being a whiney little b!tch now and see you all at Diablo next weekend.
Actualy I get you. We had the same problem with big jumps some time ago in Poland. What always bugged me is that the only big double I've seen on the wc circut is the one in champery (and im not even sure if it was that big as I wasnt there in person). Schladming had NO big jumps, maribor had a ~10m table and some smaller jumps. The days of Willigen dh seem kinda over. Though I've seen some 30+ stepdowns done really smart, where you could fall short and not really hurt yourself and have a really long riders for the huckers that want to pop that lip. I won't travel acros the ocean to see it so I wont judge it but it doesn't look half as bad. Maybe a steeper landing + a smaller kickoff would be nicer but photos are decieving and I'm picky about jumps since I ended my season on a very stupid one some time ago ;)
 

slowitdown

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I lived in northern NJ a long time ago, mid-80s to mid-90s, and skied at Vernon Valley several times. Since leaving NJ I have become a more serious MTB rider and while I'm glad to be gone from NJ's crowds, the fast-paced attitudes of a lot of people and employers, and the insanely bad drivers on the crowded roads, I wouldn't mind living near Vernon NJ now! Great looking trails.

What always bugged me is that the only big double I've seen on the wc circut is the one in champery (and im not even sure if it was that big as I wasnt there in person). Schladming had NO big jumps, maribor had a ~10m table and some smaller jumps. The days of Willigen dh seem kinda over.
I think the huge jumps seem to be reflecting the influence of motocrossers getting into DH.

As an old dude who still likes DH riding I know I would skip a 40 foot gap just because healing from a screwup would probably be 1-2 seasons off the bike, not 1-2 weeks like it is for teenagers and dudes in their 20s. The general drift in internet commentary on American DH courses seems to be toward moto-style stuff with relatively smooth trailbed, big jumps, wide track taping. I prefer narrow technical trails and tracks myself, and to me, big gap jumps are more about balls than technique, sorta like big hucks in the freeride world of the early-mid 2000s.

Sorta like this.

Who wants to go through what Johnny Waddell went through?
 
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SylentK

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I think track builders are figuring things out. Big jumps can be made safe (reference Sol Vista Nat's). Yes, that jump looks big, but it looks "safe" to me (or at least "not unsafe"). I'd want to see what kind of speed I had for that feature and probably follow someone over it. But ya, my total e-speculation sez 'I'd hit that'.
 

DownhillR3

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May 31, 2007
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Out of curiosity, what trails are we looking at from 0:40-1:00? Can't quite place them.
Lower two portions of the trail called Twist. They mellowed it out alittle to much by removing all the rocks...


The jump is pretty massive compared to previous years, coming from someone who's viewed it in person. Doesn't seem do-able just coasting into it like I saw the pro's last year do on the RedBull stepdown, but what do I know, i'm only an amateur.
 

ebarker9

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Oct 2, 2007
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Lower two portions of the trail called Twist. They mellowed it out alittle to much by removing all the rocks...
Ok, yeah. The Jack is neutered too. I'm a pansy though, so I'm not complaining too much. Cool to see some of your lines, especially on Bushwack.
 

norbar

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I think the huge jumps seem to be reflecting the influence of motocrossers getting into DH.

As an old dude who still likes DH riding I know I would skip a 40 foot gap just because healing from a screwup would probably be 1-2 seasons off the bike, not 1-2 weeks like it is for teenagers and dudes in their 20s. The general drift in internet commentary on American DH courses seems to be toward moto-style stuff with relatively smooth trailbed, big jumps, wide track taping. I prefer narrow technical trails and tracks myself, and to me, big gap jumps are more about balls than technique, sorta like big hucks in the freeride world of the early-mid 2000s.

Sorta like this.




Who wants to go through what Johnny Waddell went through?
Actualy wide tracks are imho a very good thing. They are much safer, give you a wider choice of lines and give you place for creative lines therefore rewarding inteligent riders and enlarging the differances between ppl. Also the precieved speed is lower so all the people go much faster. You can still make a technical track that is quite wide. WC tracks are good examples. On most of the tracks they are quite wide.

As for guys in their 20s. Im in my 20s and I notice I heal a lot slower than in my teens. I imagine how it must feel ;) Though 40feet is still not that crazy as long as its not a double ;)

To me Maribor and Schladming are the perfect trails. Wish I could visit them again (and schladming with a bike this time ;) ).
 

Inclag

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Sep 9, 2001
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Hoping it's not windy since it's been a problem before. The area is so exposed.
 

Bikael Molton

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so lower Twist is back open as of this past weekend? I really missed being able to run the whole thing the first 3 weeks.