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ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
this sunday i went to a long downhill with an unknown group (about 15 people)...
we went for a 40mile downhill dropping from 11500ft to sea level...
just starting the run, disaster happens. a guy on spandex hits the dirt head first into a rock at about 25mph and dives head on to a pointy rock in front of me and another dude.

he takes a couple minutes to move, then he turns and i see a gaping hole in his helmet. tried to tell the guy to not move (i was worried he might have broken his skull or something) and ask a few questions to the guy, who just laid there not even remebering what his name is or where he is at.

for a few seconds i stood in disbelief thinking this guy ripped open his head on top of mountains in the andes of peru, at least 12 walking-hours away from the closest doctor. he was a little bloody and very dirty, so i tried to look into his pupils to see if they were unequeal or something.... when the guy took his helmet off and unbelievable his head was in one piece.

holy **** i said. this was not this guy{s time i thought.
so, me with another older dude in his 50s with his son stop by and we wait for 15 minutes while the guy catches some air and regains full consciousness....
since we were in the middle of nowhere and the guy seemed to be ok to walk, we decided to keep rolling for the remaining 30 miles to the closest main road where we could be driven back to lima.... (not that we had much choice... either that or carrying the guy back up the mountains 2000ft higher to the closest village where we would have had to wait until a truck or mining dump-truck could drive us 6 hours back to lima)

of course this guy was veeeery slow.... in the next few miles, me, the older dude and his son would ride for 1-2 miles, then wait until the broken helmet dude would catch up. (and along him, another casualty, a 60something dude with a broken derraileur).
we got back to the desert at sea level (20 miles away from the nearest highway) almost at 5... we waited for the guys to cross the desert together (it was almost dark, and we had no provisiones for night riding or any water left, the whole dh was supposed to be 4 hours, not 8)....

so we crossed the dessert in the dark without visual references or a compass, pretty much going by feeling.. until we got cell signal and we could call the rest of the group who had left those guys behind.

how seriously ****ed up is that. leaving an old dude with a broken derraileur with no water, and a guy who broken a helmet with his head behind to cross alone 10 miles of tough dh and a 20 mile ride across the dessert at dar... and none of them had much experience or had done this route before

we re-united with the group and were very pissed at them leaving the 2 casualties behind... and they bitched how they waited for 3 hours and blablabla.....

helmet for reference.... imagine the impact.... besides the hole, the helmet is also broken in two pieces from front to back across the left side.


the other guy who stayed with us
 
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Pebble

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Dec 6, 2006
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Well Alexis it's people like you that make this world a better place.

Yeah if the group ahead didn't realize that the guys behind had crashed / had issues then it's understandable but I still would have expected them to walk back up and look for them rather than sitting there for 3hrs just waiting. I mean if you thought something was wrong you wouldn't just sit and wait would you!
 

MMike

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Sep 5, 2001
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I always have one of these plus I will ride clean up with a large group since I usually will carry my hog camelback with minor trauma gear. (usually the trauma gear is for myself)

I will also carry a bundle of 550 cord to tow a bike if need be
I usually carry my "hooker with a big mouth" gear....and strictly speaking it could have been equally effective in this case.
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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Not to be that guy, but if he was wearing THAT helmet and spandex, I would venture a guess that he was ill prepared for the ride...

not that I think he deserved what happened to him, but a little preparation goes a long way.

Good for you for staying behind.
 

Prettym1k3

Turbo Monkey
Aug 21, 2006
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I'm sorry. That's messed up. Sure, maybe this XC dude was way out of his league, but his injuries and suffering as his punishment. Can you imagine waking up in the middle of nowhere 5, 10, or 60 minutes after everyone has left you? Now knowing where or who you are? Then trying to navigate your way back home. Cheezus.

The other riders deserve a punch in the mouth. Honestly. I'd probably not ride with them again.

You can bet your balls you should always wait with a downed rider, because if you ride enough, that downed rider will eventually be you.
 

Da Peach

Outwitted by a rodent
Jul 2, 2002
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I get pangs of "I hope we all make it down in one piece" when I realise how basic my knowledge of first aid really is.
 

X3pilot

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Aug 13, 2007
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Good on you for being that rider that we all hope is there for us when the unfortunate happens.:thumb:
 

skatetokil

Turbo Monkey
Jan 2, 2005
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Good job stepping up. Concussions are super scary for the spectators. Always shakes me up to see a friend or even a stranger get knocked out cold, and explaining for the 12th time where you are and what just happened is no fun at all.

In general, big group rides where nobody knows the other people can be dangerous. Everybody assumes somebody else is on the case so they don't do anything when things go bad.

In my experience, every expedition needs a leader (even if they're self appointed).
 

Al C. Oholic

Monkey
Feb 11, 2010
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ALEXIS DH said:
we had no provisiones for night riding or any water left, the whole dh was supposed to be 4 hours, not 8)....
Not to criticize, you totally did the right thing, but just a suggestion. I find it to be a great policy to figure how long I'll be out, and take twice the supplies needed. For example, for a four hour ride, 4 liters of water, if you have a way to carry it, rather than two, and two power bars or whatever for every hour you'll be out. Even if you can deal with less, your fellow riders might not be as prepared, so you can share. A basic trauma kit, plus a few meds like aspirin, bug bite anti-itch, etc, are useful.

I will also carry a bundle of 550 cord to tow a bike if need be
is there anything that stuff's not good for? I came across a rider with a SUPER bad, heavily bleeding forearm gash on a DH run, so I braided several strands of 550 and made a TQ, then walked her down. amazing stuff.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
now pictars of the ride, found out a few days ago the guy (i dont remember his name) was ok after that...

this is where the trail starts, about 11500ft above sea level


the trail a few miles down from the start, guy in yellow is the helmet guy. he was very shaken and walked most of the trail.


another trail picture, a bit tricky in some sections


halfway down


this is me sans-gloves. (at 4am before leaving lima i could not find any gloves.. all i found was a left hand roadie-glove.. so thats how i rolled. (right hand palm hurt like a mofo for a couple days).


dropping back into the coast


back to the coast


this is the desert we had to cross (20 miles of it) to get back to a highway where the others were waiting. almost at sea level.
this is also were the night caught us and we got lost for a few hours...


we got lost in the dark, until we found a guy in the middle of nowhere guarding a future construction site, who gave us pointers on how to get out of the desert and back to the highway....

from the left, me in white shirt, guard guy in green (how lucky we were to find him), helmet dude in yellow (check the pierced helmet), in white and blue the older dude with his son who also stayed with the troubled riders, and in green the old dude with the broken deraileur.

it was a good ride.
 
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