Commencal Supreme DH help

Get it. You'll love it. The adjustability is quite nice as it only takes about 2 minutes to go anywhere in the drop outs. But that is not the only that about the bike that is worthwhile. I was riding an Izimu for two and a half years and switching to the Supreme was probably the best thing that could've happen for me.

In the point and shoot-rough, it holds its line like glue, in the tight steep it maneuvers on a dime and in the fast it just goes faster. As cliche as it is, the faster you go, the better this bike starts working, kind of like Evan's mom.

Don't be discouraged by the frame weight, with a quite heavy build I'm at 41.5~ and it still does whatever I want it to. So ya, buy it and report back.

Sorry this is one of those ambiguous suggestions...

Sorry to hijack but I'm havin' a look at this frame too but from a heavier dudes perspective. I'm 6"1 220lb, so any feedback for heavier dudes as well would be great.

I would suggest getting the Small/Medium (Bilbo) It will accommodate people from like 5'6-6'2


Its all preference both you guys Bilbo and Gav can ride either or, its just the fact if you like riding a little smaller frame with the small/medium.

I know Gee runs a Small/Medium frame and he's what 6'2 6'1?

I rode one last year (09 version) and didn't like it. Felt like it packed up on stutter bumps and no amount of fiddling with RC4 could get rid of it. It did corner and pedal well though.

Commencal-guy said:

I would suggest getting the Small/Medium (Bilbo) It will accommodate people from like 5'6-6'2


Its all preference both you guys Bilbo and Gav can ride either or, its just the fact if you like riding a little smaller frame with the small/medium.

I know Gee runs a Small/Medium frame and he's what 6'2 6'1?

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I'm 6'1" and I have a large. My friend has a s/m and I feel absolutely cramped on it. Gee must have freakishly short arms if he's my height and on a S/M.

The frame is heavy, I think mine was 12.0 with a DHX 5.0. The bike is around 41 pounds right now, good with me.

It corners great because of the low center of gravity. It jumps well thanks to the single pivot. But I also feel a bit of a hang in rock gardens once in a while because of the single pivot. My friend on the s/m doesn't like the brake feedback, I told him to stay off the breaks and the problem will go away

The pedaling is OK, I've ridden a Sunday, M6, M3, Faith, Demo 8 and a 303 (at Sol Vista not a parking lot). The M6 and Sunday are definitely better in that department. As for the ramping up, I haven't had that problem, but mine has the DHX 5.0, I have no time on a RC4.

One thing I like is the adjustable options. I haven't used the brake position though, no one I know has. Its also really easy to work on. I've rebuilt the rear end on an M3, what a nightmare compared to the Commy.

I have been on a Supreme DH for going on 2 years now. I am 6'1", 215#. I run the large with a 60mm Burgtec direct mount stem and the chainstays as long as possible.

In short, I really love the way this bike turns. It is by far the best turning bike I have ever ridden. I find the ride to be lively and confidence inspiring.

When it comes to small bump sensitivity, you can definitely achieve this in spades with this frame. You'll find the progressivity of the frame's suspension curve to allow you a multitude of tuning options for individual tracks.

As another poster alluded to, this bike really needs to be ridden like you stole it in order to appreciate just what it's capable of. With the way I have my suspension set up, I don't find the ride enjoyable if I'm out to cruise. But when I decide to get serious, I would not opt for any other ride out there.

Despite my relative heft, hack riding style, and pro-card qualifications, I have not experienced any of the "quote, unquote" "known issues" that some on here talk about. Nor has any of the other 8 pro riders on my team.

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask further questions. Glad to help.


MT

I've been on an 09' Supreme DH for just about a year now and it honestly is the best bike i've ever owned.Suspension,geo. and overall feel are far better then any frame i've owned.Small bump is amazing on this bike,it's super plush in the beginning stroke with a nice noticable ramp-up towards the end.Cornering feels good to me,totally carvable.This is probably due to the fact it has (IMO) a perfect BB height of right around 14''.And as said before,it holds a line and eats up the rough stuff damn well.As for sizing i'm 5'9'' with an average torso and it fits like a glove(S/M size),granted I like my top tubes a bit long.
There are a few issues I and others have had though...
-My pivots always came loose.I solved this problem with some steel washers in place of the flimsy alum. ones they stock.They have taken care of this problem on the 2010's though.
-The weekness issue.My frame's been fine,but 2 friends of mine have had the frames crack.One's a pretty quick Cat 1 racer who cracked his at the upper shock mount,the other's a pro women's WC racer who cracked hers at the upper shock mount and bottom of the headtube,granted it went through a full WC season and then some before this happened.
All in all,I love this bike and highly reccomend it.Also,gav_dub100,i'm 235lbs just so you know.
Here's some quick approx. geo,too.(set up with a Fox 40 and 2.5 minion's.)
Headangle(slackest setting)-63*
BB height-14''
Wheelbase(shortest setting)-47''

Isn't the wheelbase on Gee's bike like 48" or something long? Kinda doubt he's on the smaller version of the bike. He's a pretty tall guy if I remember right.

I'm pretty sure Gee is on a large with extra long chainstays.

lvnyk said:

I'm pretty sure Gee is on a large with extra long chainstays.

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Gee must be on a large. I remember reading his specs. His bike is custom tweaked; however there is overlap for his adjustments on the normal bike's adjustments. If you run the standard bike long and slack, you end up in the mid-low end of Gee's. Meaning his is more slack and longer.

Ithnu said:

Gee must be on a large. I remember reading his specs. His bike is custom tweaked; however there is overlap for his adjustments on the normal bike's adjustments. If you run the standard bike long and slack, you end up in the mid-low end of Gee's. Meaning his is moar slacker and longerer.

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i remember reading that too. he was one of the first guys that i was aware of that broke the 64* HA to helped start the super trend of 63* and lower.

Ithnu said:

My friend on the s/m doesn't like the brake feedback, I told him to stay off the brakes and the problem will go away

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I do my best, but I keep running into things. That being said, running into trees at doesn't crack the frame.

time-bomb said:

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i remember reading that too. he was one of the first guys that i was aware of that broke the 64* HA to helped start the super trend of 63* and lower.

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I think Barel was running stupid slack HA's a long time before Gee was.

Hacktastic said:

I think Barel was running stupid slack HA's a long time before Gee was.

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very possible....very probable. Gee just happens to be the one that I remember hearing about (before 63 was the magic number), and thinking, "damn, that is slack!".

Barel has been an experimenter and not afraid to try new/different things. Wouldn't surprise me if he was the very first one to do this.....well before any others tried it.

The standard Commy runs 63-65. Gee's is set up at 61-63. He runs 63 most places, 61 at Schladming apparently.

I had the 63 for a while, it felt good on really steep stuff but in general it was a bit too slack for me. I felt the front end washed out more. However this is influenced by riding style. I know several of the Sol Vista pros on these bikes run 63 degrees. We all ride the same trails but they ride far more aggressive than I do, so 63 works for them.

That's what's cool about the Supreme DH, you can tune it to your riding style.

I also run my wheel base on the long side.

Gee's frame is in fact not a stock frame set up. His is slacker and longer, however for his size, he still runs a relatively Smaller size frame than a Large. he commented how he likes the overall feel of being able to throw the bike wherever he wants.