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William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
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And yeah I have bone trenches in the front of my calves from hits... But I have lalmost NO damage to myself since riding crampons... BEST pedal I have used ever, stability and stance is amazing matched with good pins = ONE SICK PEDAL...
You normally get pretty over excited about everything, but I can't really disagree with that. These pedals don't have nearly the same bite as many pedals I've ridden, but they're so much more stable that I end up not losing pedals and having my feet pop off nearly as much as other pedals.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
You normally get pretty over excited about everything, but I can't really disagree with that. These pedals don't have nearly the same bite as many pedals I've ridden, but they're so much more stable that I end up not losing pedals and having my feet pop off nearly as much as other pedals.
Thats not true I didnt rant on Kendas or several other items Im pretty quiet about stuff I dont care for.... I do or have run alot of stuff thats shy of claimed benefits...ALOT.....

However I do LIKE skydiving did it today and definently going for my solo...
 

flymybike

Monkey
Jan 7, 2004
260
0
Jackson Hole
Is there a reason you threaded the pins in with the allen exposed? I would put them in with the head hidden in the pedal body so the allen can't be damaged.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Is there a reason you threaded the pins in with the allen exposed? I would put them in with the head hidden in the pedal body so the allen can't be damaged.
Habit, I like the open end and the rim biting into the soul of the 5:10s its just preference....
Smashed the hell out of a rock last night, almost put the back end off a drop off down the side. Hit and up and overed the rear of the bike real bad, pedals took the hit with minor damage I was expecting more damage considering... Nope looking good with some small battle scars....:thumb:

LOVE THESE PEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREAKING BULLET PROOF BEASTS!
 

YoPawn

Chimp
Aug 13, 2009
91
0
Is there a reason you threaded the pins in with the allen exposed? I would put them in with the head hidden in the pedal body so the allen can't be damaged.
The open ends of the allen grip better than spiky tips. Way better, especially in the wet.

How often do you guys get rain over there in Utah? We have never had luck with spiky tips here in Washington. Even on my gen1 crampons, I can feel a huge difference between the pointed ends of the pins and the open allen end, thus why I have them flipped every other pin, so one side of the pedal doesn't have less grip than the other.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
The open ends of the allen grip better than spiky tips. Way better, especially in the wet.

How often do you guys get rain over there in Utah? We have never had luck with spiky tips here in Washington. Even on my gen1 crampons, I can feel a huge difference between the pointed ends of the pins and the open allen end, thus why I have them flipped every other pin, so one side of the pedal doesn't have less grip than the other.

Yeah it works well in snow, mud and rain.... Considering I dont take an off season I like the pins embeded in the soul! :brows:
 

YoPawn

Chimp
Aug 13, 2009
91
0
Yeah it works well in snow, mud and rain.... Considering I dont take an off season I like the pins embeded in the soul! :brows:
I think it might be worth dremeling off the tips of my pins to get more grip in the wet. It's great as is, but if it can get better...:weee:

Are you making any noise on the spindle? Looks like the shoe can easily sit down in there on the new design.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
I think it might be worth dremeling off the tips of my pins to get more grip in the wet. It's great as is, but if it can get better...:weee:

Are you making any noise on the spindle? Looks like the shoe can easily sit down in there on the new design.
No noise I rode mud, multiple water crossings and nasty stuff (mtn runoff) yesterday and didnt notice much in the way of noise, I did notice with the new pins in that it gripped a hell of alot better and without the center pins like the originals I was able to adjust the foot position a bit easier without sacraficing much grip at all... So Im actually considering NOT tapping the holes in the center and putting pins, they worked as well as the old ones and allowed a bit better adjustment of the foot. So it was a win win.

If I do the centers Ill probably drill and tap the pyramid shapes and bottom the screws out 2 front 1 rear will be the same when flipped...
But I cant forsee doing that possibly a wintertime option when MAX grip is needed...
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
3,915
651
Thats not true I didnt rant on Kendas or several other items Im pretty quiet about stuff I dont care for.... I do or have run alot of stuff thats shy of claimed benefits...ALOT.....

However I do LIKE skydiving did it today and definently going for my solo...
haha, you used to talk kendas up a ton and how great they were for you ;) I'm just giving you grief though, and yah, skydiving is the sh1t, If it were a sport I could afford I would have my solo license already, but I can't come up with the G required to take the class, and I certainly can't make a case for skydiving and DH riding.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
haha, you used to talk kendas up a ton and how great they were for you ;) I'm just giving you grief though, and yah, skydiving is the sh1t, If it were a sport I could afford I would have my solo license already, but I can't come up with the G required to take the class, and I certainly can't make a case for skydiving and DH riding.
Actually I said they were good tires and also posted several times on how to modify them to hook up and avoid the slippage in a corner! They are good tires they have a time and a place ie OE bikes for mom and dad or XC/AM Im not much of a fan of them but they are good tires....

KENDAS: Lets see 3 DH casings blown out countless single plys 5 rear wheels in 1 season (actually 3 months) yeah not for me... 1 year running them

Schwalbes: I unseated the bead of a 2.35 in a nasty G-out to wall ride from a small step down (probably too low of PSI :D) and put a nasty rock through the tread and dented my rim as well internally.. 2 years running them and running them HARD....

Either way I try not to talk down products rather not mention them and if I do its usually advice to assist with them its not my lace to bad mouth items...


Yeah "W" Skydiving is incredible I dig flips and ripping through the air what a rush the best part is actually sitting in the planes door looking out then saying ""F"it lets get it on and flipping.... I will have my chute and permits by summers end, they have groups that do tuff which looks pretty cool I want the flying suit and start base jumping now.. Who would have thought it was that fun.......
 
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Tomasis

Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
681
0
Scotland
pins placed on outer sides look ideal for 5.10 shoes. maybe pins which sits close to cranks are not needed? I dont see how 5.10 would take grip from that side (closest from crank).

i dont understand the idea of pins placed in the center. maybe there is for different shoes.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
pins placed on outer sides look ideal for 5.10 shoes. maybe pins which sits close to cranks are not needed? I dont see how 5.10 would take grip from that side (closest from crank).

i dont understand the idea of pins placed in the center. maybe there is for different shoes.
Pins in the center dig into the ball of the foot (lowest part of foot) and helps with centering grip... Its not really advantageous on them with better outer pins all the way around BUT in nasty weather MUD, SNOW and junk or where the pedals Ice up a bit the centers are a blessing or where someone just wants a bit more SOLID bite then they already have...

Pins closest to the crank are good as the foots weight changes as does the position so it helps in keeping the foot locked should you rotate a bit or get light footed and come in at a wierd loaded angle...
 

Gridds

Monkey
Dec 18, 2008
266
0
Great Britain
I put some of the short pins in the centre holes of my original ones last week, I was previously riding with no pins in the centre 4 holes. Rode them at the weekend. The difference is good. More grip and now no axle squeek on the soles (which didn't happen much before anyway). Still get a concave feel. Still awesome.

At the moment I see no need to change to larger diameter pins.

Shame they did away with these centre pins in favour of those little block things on the new ones - what was the reasoning behind that?

I really love these pedals and reccommend EVERYONE gets some. Serioulsy!

:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,646
1,216
Nilbog
you guys are idiots...what more do you want out of a pedal...5'10's are glue, these are 3 mm thick...get with it...are the added pins really helping you to huck the gnar fast?

got my set today...

- Bill
 

crohnsy

Monkey
Oct 2, 2009
341
0
T Bay
Now that everyone has a season on these pedals how are they? Any bearing issues? How are they for taking impacts? Any pins ripping out? Are they flat or do they have some concave to them?

I just sold my set of Twenty6 and am looking to try something new. Wasn't impressed with how fragile the Twenty6s were. Wasn't a fan of replacing pins every ride and even broke one of the pin holes. I liked the shape of them though and they sat a bit to close to the crank arms.

Feel like I paid a lot to be a product tester for twenty6...

Anyways looking for something new, thin seems like the way to go to reduce pedal strikes. Do people with these pedals find this to be true? I still have a pair of Shimano DX's which I love but they are just too thick and I would like to try something new..
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
3,915
651
I've beat on mine pretty hard for a season. I tend to ride in a style that is generally referred to as a hack. For reference, I'm on my third rim of the summer, the ends of my cranks look like sh1t, and I tend to tag a pedal 1-2 a run while going all out through rocks (N*). I go just fast enough I can put some serious abuse on bike parts, and I'm just bad enough at riding that I DO put some serious abuse on bike parts.

The pedals look like crap - the nubs that house the bearings on the end are silver now, not black, the edges are all beat to crap.

The bearings are piss (and feel like it too). They wore out and felt crappy within about 5 months of getting the pedals. I'll probably replace them at some point, but I kind of feel like, whats the point, if they were out that fast I'm just going to do it again. I'll probably keep riding them through the winter, then retire them.

I've mashed a couple of pins, but so far they've held up impressively well. I think it might have to do with the fact that there is actual wiggle room for them, and they don't stay put whatsoever. I have to tighten (and by hand works, despite removal and reapplication of red loctite several times) them pre ride every ride, and frequently in the middle of the ride, to make sure they stay even. Basically, pins and bearings work like ass.

Thats all the negatives I can think of. I would not put any other pedal on my own bike - they're that head and shoulders better then everything else I've ever tried. There is ALOT of room for improvement on longevity of these pedals (pins and bearings are my big gripe), but the feel of these pedals is phenomanal and more then makes up for that. The second generation also looks like its taken care of alot of these things. When I retire these, I'll be bummed I didn't get more then a year out of them because I'm a cheap/poor bastard, but I'll also suck it up and buy another set.

They are literally that good.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Good: grip is still amazing, no missing pins from unwinding like gen 1), several gahses on them and no bends either with hard pedal strikes on the ends. I have sheered pins off completely and the holes are still straight no ovalization.
Bearings still spin perfect no issues there, they will at some point develop play like all pedals do but I have no complaints at all...

I did retap the holed deeper for the pins to bottom out at the other side just shy and ran longer pins. Perfect hookup, was not a fan of the new pin design personally it lacked grip on my size 13's..

I did get alot of crushing noise and scratchy rough action after a long snow, ice, water mud run but then every rotating thing on the bike was hammered. Cleaned it lubed it and good to go again. Did several of those runs in Boise last winter on these...

So really the only bad I have is I did not like the new pin design and modified it a bit... The old designs pins held amazing but the pins would screw through.

A good pedal that takes a beating and works like its claimed too... definently Will be staying on crampons........
 
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freeridefool

Monkey
Jun 17, 2006
647
0
medford, or
I have just about the same review as you bullcrew.

Although I did score my right side spindle pretty good. I figured it was probably a rock in my shoe or something... not enough to make me worry.

And my left pedal has developed a little bit of play in the bushing.

EDIT: For the first couple months I never hit my pedals at all. Now that I know how much more room I have and that I can pedal in different spots I strike my pedals about as much as I used to with "regular" pedals. Now I just hit when Im pedaling in spots I probably shouldnt be pedaling in. I almost never hit them just in a static coasting position.
 
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manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,646
1,216
Nilbog
gotta weigh in again here...

Have had about 2 months on these pedals now, 10 days in whistler, east coast bike parks, trail rides and local freeride trails.

I can't imagine what else you would want in a pedal, if you are riding 5'10's your feet dont move (not sure about other shoes), these things are rock solid and I totally believe in the 'new design'...never had the old

cheers to the dudes at c-bros for making an innovative product that ppl want, lots of wanna be clones coming out of interbike.
 

crohnsy

Monkey
Oct 2, 2009
341
0
T Bay
Well awesome reviews,

Was going to order them today but I ordered a new Sram Red LTE group instead.....

Hopefully next week I can put an order in...
 

Gridds

Monkey
Dec 18, 2008
266
0
Great Britain
I've been on mine for a fair while now, the original design with the thinner through pins. They've been hammered all over the Alps this summer. They're incredibly burly for something so slight and really do take a beating.

Still awesome pedals. I don't have the same complaints about bearings - mine are still solid with very very little play in them. If they do start to play I'll simply replace the bearings. I've had to replace one pin due to it breaking off and re-position one other. I used stronger loctite than was provided though that I got from work - seems to work a treat.

Grip and feel are still the best out of anything myself or my mates have tried.

I won't buy any other pedals from now on and I think I've converted a few buddies as well.

Highly highly recommended. Buyers will not be disappointed.
 

Huck Banzai

Turbo Monkey
May 8, 2005
2,523
23
Transitory
How tough are these? I am ~240 and beat the crap out of pedals; that said my Straightlines are 4yo and have gauges and thefront sides are basically shaved off and they still work. I am an IDIOT and pedal when I shoulnt leading to mega pedal smashes and busting my ass.

YES, I need to work on that big time, but nonetheless I am awful to my pedals.

These dont look like they would hold up to that kind of beating, but looks can be deceiving.
 

cableguy

Monkey
Jun 23, 2007
463
1
Southern California
Love my Straitlines too, but I want to try the Crampons next time. My bushings are gone after a year or riding.

Bullcrew is a big guy and his Crampons seem to hold up fine. William42's Crampons also seem to be holding okay, although I think his bushings/bearings were shot. When I rode with the Canfield brothers and their crew at Utah, all of them had the Crampons on their Jedi's (felt left out), and those guys were flying through the Flying Monkey trail (techy and rocky).
 

freeridefool

Monkey
Jun 17, 2006
647
0
medford, or
How tough are these? I am ~240 and beat the crap out of pedals; that said my Straightlines are 4yo and have gauges and thefront sides are basically shaved off and they still work. I am an IDIOT and pedal when I shoulnt leading to mega pedal smashes and busting my ass.

YES, I need to work on that big time, but nonetheless I am awful to my pedals.

These dont look like they would hold up to that kind of beating, but looks can be deceiving.
I beat the crap out of mine. Im only 175 but I push it all the time and pedal as much as I can. Like I said earlier I didnt hit my crampons at first. Then I realized I could pedal in even more places. Mine look like I tied them to the back of my truck and drove with them behind for a week. I wouldnt trade them for any pedal. The feel alone makes it worth if for me.
 

- seb

Turbo Monkey
Apr 10, 2002
2,924
1
UK
I just did the measuring thing to really give people an idea how thin they really are. You can take it any way you want. I thought it might help people that havent actually ridden them or seen them in person. But way to be a dumb ass.
WTF? You're calling him a dumb-ass? Be man enough to admit you ****ed up at least! :)
 

braaaap

Chimp
Feb 27, 2007
89
0
Utard
I freaking love my Crampons! I own both the old style and the new style. To be honest, I like the new style better than the old. The old style seemed to hook up almost too well. As far as durability, they are unmatched. I am the kind of guy that goes through a couple of pair of pedals per season. That being said, I beat the hell out of my set all season long. Didn't do any more damage than the occasional bent pin here and there. They are still running strong. Bearings and bushings are still tight and smooth. The only real reason I even purchased another set, is because I got tired of swapping them from one bike to the next.

Durability...Amazing, nearly 2 years!
Weight...Who cares, but they are light as hell.
Grip...fogettaboutit! Freaking amazing.
Thin... awesome for mashers like myself who hit stuff all the time. (I rarely hit anymore)