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Avalanche boxxer upgrade kit out! Will fit majority of forks!

Routier07

Monkey
Mar 14, 2009
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Hello Monkeys,

Im guessing its been already covered in this thread.

But has anyone put the new Avy Cart in their 2010 Boxxer Team? Im just wondering if it would be that big of an upgrade from the stock Mission Control.

Cheers
Louis R.
 

DirtMcGirk

<b>WAY</b> Dumber than N8 (to the power of ten alm
Feb 21, 2008
6,379
1
Oz
Well WTF? Its the end of July and no cart for me. Avy, you haterz.
 

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
0
Sandy Eggo
bullcrew directed me over here from pinkbike, another avalance convert here.

this is one of the nicest parts i have ever seen made for a bike. it boggles my mind how craig is able to sell these as cheap as he does, the quality of the machine work and attention to detail is beyond top notch. i was ashamed that it all gets hidden inside the fork, but its one of those subtle things that people go "whats up with that gold knob on your boxxer..."





i do believe i have the ultimate setup for a 32mm boxxer chassis. the stancions are slippery silver one year only from 05. i have a single sided Ti spring (originally fork had a spring on each side).the lowers are 08 or 09, whichever year they updated the arch with bigger webbing. sunline direct mount stem. i'm not sold on the newer sram stuff either, there quality control seems to get worse and worse the bigger they get.

the difference in control was huge and i noticed it right away. the bike feels alive, the fork tracks twice as smooth, and the brake dive i was experiencing has disappeared. i'm gonna give it some time, but it sure felt dialed to me right out of the box. i'm not the type to mess with knobs constantly, i set and then i forget (which usually leads to me resetting them wrong when i try to count where they were).

i think the biggest benefit will be long term reliability. the cartridge is really simple by design. if you can install it, you can rebuild it, tune it etc. try doing that with your 40 (BTW i prefer my fork to any 40s i've ridden)...sure they ride nice for a ride or two, but i've never seen forks that crap out quicker than 40s. they are just too finicky. the recommended service interval for the cartridge is 1 or 2 years. period.

the only real question i have now is what shock to get for the rear of my bike cause now i'm jonesin for more buttery smoothness...
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
bullcrew directed me over here from pinkbike, another avalance convert here.

this is one of the nicest parts i have ever seen made for a bike. it boggles my mind how craig is able to sell these as cheap as he does, the quality of the machine work and attention to detail is beyond top notch. i was ashamed that it all gets hidden inside the fork, but its one of those subtle things that people go "whats up with that gold knob on your boxxer..."





i do believe i have the ultimate setup for a 32mm boxxer chassis. the stancions are slippery silver one year only from 05. i have a single sided Ti spring (originally fork had a spring on each side).the lowers are 08 or 09, whichever year they updated the arch with bigger webbing. sunline direct mount stem. i'm not sold on the newer sram stuff either, there quality control seems to get worse and worse the bigger they get.

the difference in control was huge and i noticed it right away. the bike feels alive, the fork tracks twice as smooth, and the brake dive i was experiencing has disappeared. i'm gonna give it some time, but it sure felt dialed to me right out of the box. i'm not the type to mess with knobs constantly, i set and then i forget (which usually leads to me resetting them wrong when i try to count where they were).

i think the biggest benefit will be long term reliability. the cartridge is really simple by design. if you can install it, you can rebuild it, tune it etc. try doing that with your 40 (BTW i prefer my fork to any 40s i've ridden)...sure they ride nice for a ride or two, but i've never seen forks that crap out quicker than 40s. they are just too finicky. the recommended service interval for the cartridge is 1 or 2 years. period.

the only real question i have now is what shock to get for the rear of my bike cause now i'm jonesin for more buttery smoothness...

POP a shot of the front end, I thought the stanchions looked shiny couldt really tell from the side angle...

BTW: welcome man... Theres alot of good on ridemonkey.... :thumb:

Nice build on the boxxer parting it to what you wanted....
 

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
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Sandy Eggo
thanks for the props i'll grab a pic a little later.

what will really piss people off is when i tell them how much i've sunk into the fork:
$200 for complete 2005 boxxer WC with 1 spare slippery silver stanchion, and spare Ti springs (had a fat dent in the lowers)
$200 for new 09 lowers
$300 for avalanche cartridge
$100 for sunline direct mount stem

so ~$800 for a ~6.5 lb avalanche dampered chrome plated race fork
:monkeydance:

i just sit back and laugh when i watch people spend twice that on a forty that is gonna be broken or need a service after a month of riding
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Thanks for the feedback.

So from what im getting, is the Avy kit custom tuned and ride-ready?
It is, call Craig just order the race tune and be good... you can get a mid speed valve kit as well..

I personally would opt for the race tune period and the hydraulic bottom out allows for a lighter spring rate and the valving takes care of you... Fine tune with the adjustments and go ride...
 

ocelot

Monkey
Mar 8, 2009
395
10
Canadastan
It is, call Craig just order the race tune and be good... you can get a mid speed valve kit as well..

I personally would opt for the race tune period and the hydraulic bottom out allows for a lighter spring rate and the valving takes care of you... Fine tune with the adjustments and go ride...


What's the race tune? Just a different shim stack setup?
 

Tomasis

Monkey
Feb 26, 2003
681
0
Scotland
thanks for the props i'll grab a pic a little later.

what will really piss people off is when i tell them how much i've sunk into the fork:
$200 for complete 2005 boxxer WC with 1 spare slippery silver stanchion, and spare Ti springs (had a fat dent in the lowers)
$200 for new 09 lowers
$300 for avalanche cartridge
$100 for sunline direct mount stem

so ~$800 for a ~6.5 lb avalanche dampered chrome plated race fork
:monkeydance:

i just sit back and laugh when i watch people spend twice that on a forty that is gonna be broken or need a service after a month of riding
nice fork :thumb:

lets continue piss of people when they dont know what they miss. I dont even know but I want try Avalanche any day ;)
 

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
0
Sandy Eggo
race tune is just one of the valving setups he offers. there is also the "urban", "freeride" and "xc" tune. its just the shim stacks he puts in. i told him i race downhill. i put it in and its dialed, i really haven't messed with the adjustment either.

maybe i'll take my fork apart today and go weigh it at the shop...
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
race tune is just one of the valving setups he offers. there is also the "urban", "freeride" and "xc" tune. its just the shim stacks he puts in. i told him i race downhill. i put it in and its dialed, i really haven't messed with the adjustment either.

maybe i'll take my fork apart today and go weigh it at the shop...
Exactly!!!

Id do race tune and you can always valve a little if needed if its too far out of range which I cant see being the case and even if so the hyd. bottom out will save you anywase which TRUST ME GUYS has saved my rear a few times already...... I dont negotiate things properly sometimes and others just go for it blind so its a get out of trouble free card built in unlimited uses... :thumb:
 

ocelot

Monkey
Mar 8, 2009
395
10
Canadastan
Oh bummers!
When I finally decided to order one today, I find out that the offer for the free 32mm boxxer adapter just expired yesterday (august 1st)!!! :rant:

I knew I should've done it last night instead of going to sleep earlier for work... grrrr
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Oh bummers!
When I finally decided to order one today, I find out that the offer for the free 32mm boxxer adapter just expired yesterday (august 1st)!!! :rant:

I knew I should've done it last night instead of going to sleep earlier for work... grrrr
Call Craig and ask him, plead your case you transfered money yesterday via the web and it didnt clear till 12 am...... So technically you were in the process of it yesterday! :thumb:
 
Well I have loosely been following this thread over the past while, and I think this is right for me. I just bought a BNIB 2004 boxxer team, but thanks to my buddy riding it once, the rebound cartridge is pooched. Any insight on converting this fork to 200mm travel from 170mm with the AVY kit? What eles would I need besides the kit from AVY? And lastly, does the kit work in a 170/180mm travel setting?
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Well I have loosely been following this thread over the past while, and I think this is right for me. I just bought a BNIB 2004 boxxer team, but thanks to my buddy riding it once, the rebound cartridge is pooched. Any insight on converting this fork to 200mm travel from 170mm with the AVY kit? What eles would I need besides the kit from AVY? And lastly, does the kit work in a 170/180mm travel setting?
The cartidge can be reduced to 7 the prings are going to be questionable. If the springs in your fork were 2" shorter than the springs in the 8" it should be fine...

Craig also said send the fork to him he would install it for free if it will fit he wants to know if it fits as well as he didnt go back that far... He doesnt think the 8" conversion to it will work as the bushings may be too short....
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
AFAIK the 2004+ 7" forks can be swapped over to 8" with the right springs and dampers from rockshox, so it stands to reason that this would work. Should I just email Craig and see what he thinks? Whats the 'real' turnaround time for getting him to do it?
Quick usually he likes to work guess he figures there's plenty of time to sleep when you die...:D
 

DirtMcGirk

<b>WAY</b> Dumber than N8 (to the power of ten alm
Feb 21, 2008
6,379
1
Oz
Can you tell him to hurry up and get my 888 on the team?
All this jerkin around with you Rock ****s owners and nothing for real DH riders?
That man be sippin the hateraid.
 

PepperJester

Monkey
Jul 9, 2004
798
19
Wolfville NS
Yep. I just got an email yesterday from Craig. 888 parts are going to be ready very very soon. STOKED. 07 ATA with the Avalanche cart is going to be so sick.
 

ocelot

Monkey
Mar 8, 2009
395
10
Canadastan
Call Craig and ask him, plead your case you transfered money yesterday via the web and it didnt clear till 12 am...... So technically you were in the process of it yesterday! :thumb:
hmmm called but no one answers... seems to be ignoring my emails when I asked him to make an exception :(
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
Staff member
May 23, 2002
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borcester rhymes
good for him. It was a genius move to offer these carts...avy makes great stuff but it's tough for the little guys to make competitive chassis....so win win for all
 

Slater

Monkey
Oct 10, 2007
378
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Damnit, was hoping the adapters were less than $100.

Guess I'll be waiting a tad longer.
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
12,874
4,214
Copenhagen, Denmark
i do believe i have the ultimate setup for a 32mm boxxer chassis. the stancions are slippery silver one year only from 05. i have a single sided Ti spring (originally fork had a spring on each side).the lowers are 08 or 09, whichever year they updated the arch with bigger webbing. sunline direct mount stem. i'm not sold on the newer sram stuff either, there quality control seems to get worse and worse the bigger they get.
Pretty cool except I am not sure how one spring would be enough?
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
12,874
4,214
Copenhagen, Denmark
Interesting - something people have to consider when installing the kit in coil fork. 70 psi should be way less than what you would normally ride.