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spocomptonrider

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TLD Victory Guard
Surprised you lot haven't mentioned this, too busy insulting this years paint designs I assume... any how, the 661 Core Saver was nice but doesn't work well with the Leatt. This looks super low profile and specific for the Leatt, perfect!
 
supercow

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No idea who tht clown is and still dont know what the armour looks like, great.
 
spocomptonrider

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S.K.C. said:


...if it's good enough for Ronnie James Dio - it's good enough for me.

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does not compute. I might be retarded but I don't see what Ronnie James Dio R.I.P. has to do with this thread...

supercow said:
Any pics of the back, cant seem to find any.
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It's likely to be similar to the back with a cut out for the Leatt in the center (I would imagine)
 
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FlyinPolack

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Any armor without shoulder protection is a freaking joke. The #1 Mtn bike injury is to the shoulders. Don't waste your money
 
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hang on, didn't they improve the 09/10 core savers so they can fit a neck brace better?
 
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StabprimoMonkee

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Any armor without shoulder protection is a freaking joke. The #1 Mtn bike injury is to the shoulders. Don't waste your money
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Anyone thinking that shoulder pads will save him from shoulder injury is delusional. I'd be willing to go as far to state that from my humble experience people wearing shoulder pads get their shoulders injured more often.
 
quickneonrt

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yeah TLD---Fail

the best I have used and am currently using is the POC. Lightweight, comfortable and not scorching hot.

As for shoulder protection pads, plastic covers ect, do nothing but prevent scrapes and cuts. I have fallen with 661, Daniesse and POC shoulder injuries still happen. Broken collar bones will still happen. Most collar bone injuries come from impact to your shoulder (above your bicep) not impact to you collar bone. The impact to you shoulder causes fractures and dislocations of the collar bone. Maybe if someone karate chopped your collar bone padding there might help.
 
djjohnr

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scottishmark said:
what would you recommend? i cant think of one model that gives protection against dislocation or broken collar bones
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Torn rotator cuffs and separated shoulders are often caused from having your shoulder dragged across the ground, I know because I've had quite a few. A hard shoulder protector slides across the ground instead creating less force pulling on your shoulder. Is it still possible to injure yourself? Of course, but it does mitigate the risk.
 
djjohnr

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Both contribute according to my orthopedic surgeon and sports medicine doctors. That's why I wear shoulder pads now after 3 different injuries.
 
Hesh To Steel

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In general when it comes to impacts that are hard enough to break bones, I don't think pads prevent that (for the most part). However, I welcome the protection from cuts/scrapes because those are a PITA when Monday rolls around and I have to spend an extra 15 mins before work applying bandages so I don't bleed into my shirt and freak out my coworkers.

I'm no physician (or physicist) but I would think that the most effective pads are ones that are able to distribute impact over a large area. That's why I think a spine protector is probably better at protecting the spine than an elbow guard is at protecting the, er...elbow bone.

I wonder if that's even close to correct.
 
spocomptonrider

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S.K.C. said:
JOKES.

...besides - any DH'er worth his salt rocks a codpiece, and YES it is body armor... goes great with my ass-less chaps and football pads...
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Aren't all chaps ass-less?


Hesh To Steel said:
In general when it comes to impacts that are hard enough to break bones, I don't think pads prevent that (for the most part). However, I welcome the protection from cuts/scrapes because those are a PITA when Monday rolls around and I have to spend an extra 15 mins before work applying bandages so I don't bleed into my shirt and freak out my coworkers.

I'm no physician (or physicist) but I would think that the most effective pads are ones that are able to distribute impact over a large area. That's why I think a spine protector is probably better at protecting the spine than an elbow guard is at protecting the, er...elbow bone.

I wonder if that's even close to correct.
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This also got me thinking, the most effective body armor is something you will wear; some people love the full body suit on the outside of the jersey pads over the jeans look. Not me. Something like this would keep my left side from getting destroyed in another crash, for some reason I always land on my left hip and its starting to take its toll, the "skin" looks like chewed bubblegum it's nasty. Therefore anything that is similar to this with a tight fitting lycra short would be perfect for what I need it for.
 
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spocomptonrider

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Seems a little on the thin side for moto roost but I dunno. As for it being especially thin, I only really need something to "take the edge off" but peops are right, the POC is the better choice at the moment, I'm more or less concerned with chopping up a 200$ piece for the sake of the Leatt. If 661 ever makes a D30 core saver I'll buy that in a second. Also it was in the "bicycle" section of the Troy Lee website, I'm sure they know to whom they are marketing the thing.

-earth to TomBo- TomBo this is earth do you copy?-

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milohead

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gurp said:
Torn rotator cuffs and separated shoulders are often caused from having your shoulder dragged across the ground, I know because I've had quite a few. A hard shoulder protector slides across the ground instead creating less force pulling on your shoulder. Is it still possible to injure yourself? Of course, but it does mitigate the risk.
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dis is tru.
 
Hesh To Steel

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spocomptonrider said:
Aren't all chaps ass-less?





This also got me thinking, the most effective body armor is something you will wear; some people love the full body suit on the outside of the jersey pads over the jeans look. Not me. Something like this would keep my left side from getting destroyed in another crash, for some reason I always land on my left hip and its starting to take its toll, the "skin" looks like chewed bubblegum it's nasty. Therefore anything that is similar to this with a tight fitting lycra short would be perfect for what I need it for.
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Sounds to me like your "look" is more important to you than your skin. Which is fine, to each his own. It's a lot easier to find and get effective protection when you're not as worried about style points, though.
 
Huck Banzai

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gurp said:
Torn rotator cuffs and separated shoulders are often caused from having your shoulder dragged across the ground, I know because I've had quite a few. A hard shoulder protector slides across the ground instead creating less force pulling on your shoulder. Is it still possible to injure yourself? Of course, but it does mitigate the risk.
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QFT, a hard/rigid cup on the shoulder is excellent armor, and the most important part of a jacket for me; I am swapping to something lighter like the above, but seeking another jacket with cups for occasional use.
 
Huck Banzai

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quickneonrt said:
if you don't crash you're not riding hard enough!
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Well, I must be a champ - I go 2 years with no injuries or even good off the bike stories - then this past month I have dislocated my thumb, torn ligaments in my ankle, and scraped the **** out of both knees and forearm (thank you sliding body armor) and vurped a little.....

3's? Am I finished for now?

bah.

But yeah, QFT, eat it or beat it....errr....kthxbai.
 
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