Did you know the dust bowl was caused by stupid use of natural resources???
That's why "displacing" sand is a big deal. It's a disruption of natural order.
California 200: 8 people dead
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That's why "displacing" sand is a big deal. It's a disruption of natural order.
The phenomenon was caused by severe drought coupled with decades of extensive farming without crop rotation, fallow fields, cover crops or other techniques to prevent erosion.[1] Deep plowing of the virgin topsoil of the Great Plains had displaced the natural grasses that normally kept the soil in place and trapped moisture even during periods of drought and high winds.
Not really the same as a couple of rally cars a year is it?
Not really the same as a couple of rally cars a year is it?
Same as a bunch of rally cars, dune buggies, motorcycles and off-road vehicles to me.
And thanks for the neg rep "amish matt"! I plus repped you because I considered it a compliment!
Wow this thread got seriously sidetracked. My two cents:
- This was a terrible accident, and I feel sorry for all those involved. However, it was largely preventable. I don't understand why people like to stand so close to the race course. It is obviously dangerous and hardly worth risking your life just to watch a race up close. I'm not going to blame the race promoter or anyone other than the spectators for this accident. I like being able to walk along the course and watch at different areas, but there has to be some common sense to stay back a reasonable distance when big heavy trucks are crusing by. The GNCC races I go to allow spectators to go anywhere, but most have enough sense to stay far enough way from the track. But the vehicles (UTV's, mini buggies, ATV's, dirtbikes) are much smaller as well.
- I race a mini off-road buggy. I like driving stuff off road just as much as I like mountain biking off road. I would hate to see any more areas get closed down to ORV access as the options are already very limited. I live in the east but if I had the choice I would much rather ride in the desert than the woods. There is a lot of desert in this country, and only a very small amount of it is open to ORV access. I really don't see what the problem is, and I'm tired of the Sierra Club attitude.
- The following quote is from a buggy site I am a member of, by a person who was at the race that day.
"I was actually at that race. You can't blame the organizers for "allowing" people to be that close. The fact is, they have signs posted every few hundred feet, warning spectators that they are on a race course, and to stay back 125 feet. The fact of the matter is, you can't control everyone. It is public land, and unless you have a badge and a gun, 90% of people aren't going to listen to you. I lost two good buddies out there on Saturday. MDR has what they call "rovers", who patrol the track and make sure there aren't any inherent dangers on the course. The "rock pile" is where 85-90% of the spectators gather to watch the race, because it is an exciting section of the course. The problem is when you get 1000 people all crammed into a 500ft section of track, all it takes is one thing to go wrong, and this is what happens.
While I lost two friends out there, I feel terrible for Brett, the driver. He killed two of his really good friends, and injured tons more. Drivers have been complaining about that section of the course for years now, and MDR has been doing what they can to keep people back, but the excitement and adrenaline of being 5-10 feet from the race vehicles gets the best of the spectators. Last year, they put up that orange netting before the race, and spectators tore it down just as fast as they could put it up.
I certainly believe that if the BLM is going to issue the permits for these sanctioned races, they need to make their presence known out there. I saw ONE BLM ranger, the entire time I was there. "
- This was a terrible accident, and I feel sorry for all those involved. However, it was largely preventable. I don't understand why people like to stand so close to the race course. It is obviously dangerous and hardly worth risking your life just to watch a race up close. I'm not going to blame the race promoter or anyone other than the spectators for this accident. I like being able to walk along the course and watch at different areas, but there has to be some common sense to stay back a reasonable distance when big heavy trucks are crusing by. The GNCC races I go to allow spectators to go anywhere, but most have enough sense to stay far enough way from the track. But the vehicles (UTV's, mini buggies, ATV's, dirtbikes) are much smaller as well.
- I race a mini off-road buggy. I like driving stuff off road just as much as I like mountain biking off road. I would hate to see any more areas get closed down to ORV access as the options are already very limited. I live in the east but if I had the choice I would much rather ride in the desert than the woods. There is a lot of desert in this country, and only a very small amount of it is open to ORV access. I really don't see what the problem is, and I'm tired of the Sierra Club attitude.
- The following quote is from a buggy site I am a member of, by a person who was at the race that day.
"I was actually at that race. You can't blame the organizers for "allowing" people to be that close. The fact is, they have signs posted every few hundred feet, warning spectators that they are on a race course, and to stay back 125 feet. The fact of the matter is, you can't control everyone. It is public land, and unless you have a badge and a gun, 90% of people aren't going to listen to you. I lost two good buddies out there on Saturday. MDR has what they call "rovers", who patrol the track and make sure there aren't any inherent dangers on the course. The "rock pile" is where 85-90% of the spectators gather to watch the race, because it is an exciting section of the course. The problem is when you get 1000 people all crammed into a 500ft section of track, all it takes is one thing to go wrong, and this is what happens.
While I lost two friends out there, I feel terrible for Brett, the driver. He killed two of his really good friends, and injured tons more. Drivers have been complaining about that section of the course for years now, and MDR has been doing what they can to keep people back, but the excitement and adrenaline of being 5-10 feet from the race vehicles gets the best of the spectators. Last year, they put up that orange netting before the race, and spectators tore it down just as fast as they could put it up.
I certainly believe that if the BLM is going to issue the permits for these sanctioned races, they need to make their presence known out there. I saw ONE BLM ranger, the entire time I was there. "
What did they think was going to happen?
The trucks and buggys would go by, people would cheer, and everyone would party after the race. The same exact thing that has happened for the past 30 years.
How do we explain this?
Hows a rainbow made? whys the sky blue? how does a posi track rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does.