Shuttle rigs

profro said:

Urea is fine as long as America puts in the infrastructure to support it. It works well for fleets who fill at designated locations. I saw a really cool dual fuel (diesel + urea) system years ago from Ford that filled both tanks with a single nozzle. But what happens if you get to an area without urea at the pump, does OBD shut your vehicle down?

Mickey, if you don't have anything to add to the conversation fvck off. I don't jump into your skin suit conversations just to be a d!ck.



Seen it from the inside?

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Let me be a little more clear. Profro seems to be the only one that was following my train of thought. For current (and through 2012 iirc) emissions regs, the technology exists such that the exhaust does not need to be post-treated with urea. The infrastructure is not there in many areas and consumers may have to worry about their truck shutting itself off because the urea tank is empty (the EPA has stipulated the engines computer must do this). Cummins has chosen to not use this technology until the infrastructure is in place, I feel that Ford should have as well. Thats just my opinion, nowhere did I say that the engineers at Ford are stupid.

Plus... filling a 30-gal tank with diesel and then adding another $35 to fill the urea tank just sounds like a huge headache.

I only know about the Audi system for sure ref AdBlue (the piss) and things could be different over there, basically as the active tank gets low the dash gives you a countdown of how many miles you've got left. If the tank runs out while the car is running it will alert you that the engine won't start again, if you stop it you're fooked! It will also know if you've filled it with water or whatever as the Nox sensor after the thingybob will recognise the system is doing nowt.

Sorry for hitting you with my uber technical terms, I'm rubbish at remembering names of stuff! Ages since I done the course and I've never actually seen more than 2 cars with it on.....

i cant speak for the ford injection system, but the BlueTec in the mercedes doesnt need the system to meet regs, it adds it because it wants to be a super clean oil-burner....a claimed 80% reduction in NOx gases

IH8Rice said:

i cant speak for the ford injection system, but the BlueTec in the mercedes doesnt need the system to meet regs, it adds it because it wants to be a super clean oil-burner....a claimed 80% reduction in NOx gases

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Speaking of burners...what's this thing an Isuzu uses to burn something off while you're going down the road? One of our customers was bragging about it yesterday and I had to tune him out.

bizutch said:

Speaking of burners...what's this thing an Isuzu uses to burn something off while you're going down the road? One of our customers was bragging about it yesterday and I had to tune him out.

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urine?

profro said:

But what happens if you get to an area without urea at the pump, does OBD shut your vehicle down?

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Was looking at a newduramax, GM's OBD will shut you down to <55 mph on the first warning, then if you don't refill, you're locked into limp mode.

Get a later model pre-emissions cummins while you can. I finally had to get my first emissions test this week, and even with a boatload of mods, I passed with flying colors (chip running on valet mode at 1/2 power). Performance diesels are going to go the way of performance gasoline engines

profro said:

Mickey, if you don't have anything to add to the conversation fvck off. I don't jump into your skin suit conversations just to be a d!ck.

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I own 2 Ford diesel vans though, one '92 e350 prison van with the pre-powerstroke 7.3. It's gutted inside as it used to be full of chained-up prisoners.

The thing does donuts and loves drifting wet mountain roads. Alas, the tranny died and it's sitting around idle. I ran it without an exhaust for months- according to some shell shocked veterans it sounded a hell of a lot like an attack helicopter.
The amount of **** that fits into the back of a completely stripped E350 is staggering. Need to bring 15 bikes to an event? No problem. Throw in everything you need to live on the road for a month while you're at it.
As far as shuttle runs, there is a bench with room for 6(only shackle points for 4 though) riders, there bikes and a days worth of gear. We roll 4 deep with room to pick up a few hitchikers. There's stab-proof gating, a shotgun mount on the dash and official RI Dept of Corrections emblems on the door to keep you out of trouble.
3rd gear spins out around 140mph and it shifted out of 2nd VIOLENTLY.
I got mileage in the mid 20's and I ran it about 80% on local bio-diesel. Boston to Gainesville straight through with 3.5 tanks of fuel...

One of these days I'll find a donor tranny, but right now I'm saving the motor for a hopeful swap into the bus.

Then there's the bus.



It's a '91 E350 with a pretty sweet handicap shell on it.
The bus weighs 15K pounds and runs a puny little 6 litre and a tranny geared for city driving. It can't get out of it's way on the highway, but it still gets up to 55 faster than my piece of **** Imprezza. It gets used a **** load to shuttle local point-to-point xc and road rides and is great for a DH race weekend. It's also a good place to smoke pot.

We can fit 9 bikes, full camping gear, a pro-level pit setup and it sleeps 3 and it gets an average of about 20mpg.

It's perfect for shuttling drunk friends around, but the prison bus gets way more chicks.

Both of my vans were used all day every-day for nearly a decade and I'm the third owner of both.
When it comes to car maintenance, well, it doesn't come.

The only problem I've ever run into with either of the vans is access to the motors. I would have grease conversions on both of them (I went to School with the dudes from GreaseCar) but it's a ****ing hassle to get down and back and under those motors to where all the magic happens.

The previous owner of the bus had the secondary fuel pump in the rear tank (about 35' away from the motor) die. The motor has since been started thousands of times with starting fluid.

I've got more than enough power to drag more stuff with me than I need and super cheap, common replacements parts, donors galore and almost no need to use them.

For me going to bike races is work these days, and all I want is the right tool to get the job done.

Who the heck cares how the motors combust ... I just want it to start, stay running and start again. And I want it do that indefinitely.

bizutch said:

please elaborate on what that tailgate thing does.

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The rack replaces the tailgate obviously for hanging bikes. Much stronger and provides a bit more room in the bed. The rack mounts on the regular tailgate tabs for easy removal but the weight is on the rail on the bed of the truck. two pins on each rail come out to remove it in minutes. Angle of the rack also minimizes bike movement during shuttling. Pretty slick.

SuspectDevice said:

lots of cool van stuff

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+ rep to you sir!

I really, really want a 7.3L E350. I like my E150, but I figure if I'm going to be getting $hitty mileage, I might as well be able to haul a ton of stuff.

Mickey, you scare the living hell out of me and I'm pretty certain some alien thing is using you as it's host body.

Kntr said:

I got the Minion tread pattern sticker on last night. Now its a real mountain biker rig.

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No that just means the next van that has a muddy mary pattern will pass you in the corners! LOL


Looks good B very creative and well played...

I like the tread pattern sticker. Where did you find it?

That is very cool!

not much for shuttling tons of dude, but good for getting you and a buddy to some remote hill sides where you can do some real big mountain stuff..

My newest rig, $1600 sold the canopy $300 =$1300 so had to grab it a few weeks back...

Kntr said:

Sweet deal T. Any plans for it? What motor? How many miles?

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120k 5.9l and if I keep it Ill probably make it a bit more desert worthy for speed... It has a SOLID frame to work off...

bullcrew said:

120k 5.9l

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great engine, i have the same in my Dakota. just keep a eye on the water pump, tranny and rear end. is the rear making any weird noises? that was a common problem and is easily solved by replacing the stock fluid in there

IH8Rice said:

great engine, i have the same in my Dakota. just keep a eye on the water pump, tranny and rear end. is the rear making any weird noises? that was a common problem and is easily solved by replacing the stock fluid in there

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Nothing at all, he just did the rear end, ball joints up front and a ton of maitenance work. I just did cap/rotor (PIA) cleaned the TB and all the sensors and fixed a wire on the o2 ... That was probabl the reason he sold it cheap was the grounded 02 wire... LOL

bullcrew said:

I just did cap/rotor (PIA) cleaned the TB and all the sensors and fixed a wire on the o2 ... That was probabl the reason he sold it cheap was the grounded 02 wire... LOL

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yeah, with it being right up against the firewall, it makes working on it a pain. hopefully, the oil pressure sensor doesnt go bad. thats even harder to get to since just below and to the side of the distributor. its a $20 part that can drive you nuts thinking something is wrong, when there really isnt.

I'm surprised nobody has posted picks of a North Shore Rack One rough roads you have to bolt it together and give up the adjustability but its a fair trade off.

jitenshakun said:

I'm surprised nobody has posted picks of a North Shore Rack One rough roads you have to bolt it together and give up the adjustability but its a fair trade off.

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not sure if you are spammin, but when the 2bike carriers are back in stock, im ordering one for my new car

IH8Rice said:

yeah, with it being right up against the firewall, it makes working on it a pain. hopefully, the oil pressure sensor doesnt go bad. thats even harder to get to since just below and to the side of the distributor. its a $20 part that can drive you nuts thinking something is wrong, when there really isnt.

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Im half tempted to remove the valance and cut a access panel under the platics then make tabs and bolt the metal back put the plastics on and it would be hid but easier...
Being 6'3 235lbs and trying to sit beside the ac in the engine compartment was rather comfy literally ...

Wheres a good site that I can read up on them so I have an idea about it... LRR was where I went for my landrover, yotatech for toyotas, FSC or dezert rangers for the silvy and suspension fab...

bullcrew said:

Being 6'3 235lbs and trying to sit beside the ac in the engine compartment was rather comfy literally ...

Wheres a good site that I can read up on them so I have an idea about it.

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im the same size, but thankfully my truck is so low, i can lay the on the fenders with not too much of a problem.

dont know too much about Ram forums. ive had Dakotas and Durangos in the past so i never looked into Ram specific ones. they are pretty similar trucks in terms of parts, so im pretty familiar with their nuances.

New dd, and shuttle truck for me. Still have to get a nice hitch rack for it but for now I can get my bikes in the back or on my crappy rack. 96 grand cherokee limited. 5.2 v8, 32's. 4 inch lift with limited slip front and rear.



Bullcrew- I know its a dodge but jeepforum is very good for the 5.9's cause they came in alot of grand cherokees. And therangerstation is awesome for all kinds of info. The guys over there are knowledgeable about every type of vehicle.

freeridefool said:

Bullcrew- I know its a dodge but jeepforum is very good for the 5.9's cause they came in alot of grand cherokees. And therangerstation is awesome for all kinds of info. The guys over there are knowledgeable about every type of vehicle.

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Thanks man I appreciate it...

I had one 4runner lifted 33s locked front and rear and that thing was scarier than hell on the snow and ice but off road it was a TOTAL beast....
Have fun and LSDs are a good addition for sure...


If you look behind the door eddgy is dwarfed by the yota LOL...

FYI, with the Yota, if you leave the tailgate down and just back the bikes in and push down on the saddle to get it past the window, the interior roof will hold the bikes upright in a row. Jeremy R for the WIN figuring that one out.

My Tundra crewmax with a 6 bike northshore rack is the ultimate shuttle rig. Plenty of room for gear, freakishly tall people and bikes. Works even better for roadtrips. I'll post some pics later this week.

My 04 Tundra:

gemini2k said:

My Tundra crewmax with a 6 bike northshore rack is the ultimate shuttle rig. Plenty of room for gear, freakishly tall people and bikes. Works even better for roadtrips. I'll post some pics later this week.

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You have to have a "Class II" hitch for the 6 right? What is the definition of a Class II hitch anyway?

Rack by Mofab...

bizutch said:

What is the definition of a Class II hitch anyway?

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Class I —up to 2,000 pounds (910 kg) — light loads
Class II —up to 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) — light loads
Class III —up to 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)
Class IV —up to 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)

IH8Rice said:

Class I —up to 2,000 pounds (910 kg) — light loads
Class II —up to 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) — light loads
Class III —up to 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)
Class IV —up to 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)

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OK. My blazer should be rated for that then...

bizutch said:

You have to have a "Class II" hitch for the 6 right? What is the definition of a Class II hitch anyway?

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IH8Rice said:

Class I —up to 2,000 pounds (910 kg) — light loads
Class II —up to 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) — light loads
Class III —up to 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)
Class IV —up to 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)

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Mine is a class IV. Those weights are TOWING weights, not tongue weights, which are whats important for a rack obviously. It's roughly a factor of 10 lower than those weights for tongue weights,

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4758702/

My $5800 find...

Latest shuttle rig
02 supercrew 5.4
18s with 35s
FT mid front
4:56s
Full cold air intake and exhaust
HID conversion lights
in dash tv (pioneer) and 2 headrest tvs (guys sending over) for mtb videos on the way up....
2 10" subs

Got it this way, SMOKING deal...

^^Good find there, bullcrew.

My new all-season rig:

'96 Ram 2500 V10
Dana 60 front; Dana 70 rear
Factory plow-prep package
9 foot Western Pro-Plow.

Trailhead still snowed in? Stand back and gimme a minute .

MinorThreat said:

^^Good find there, bullcrew.

My new all-season rig:

'96 Ram 2500 V10
Dana 60 front; Dana 70 rear
Factory plow-prep package
9 foot Western Pro-Plow.

Trailhead still snowed in? Stand back and gimme a minute .

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Weathers been crazy.... Hell yes winter DH runs right there!!!

OR MASSIVE SNOW JUMPS.....