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jonKranked

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Japan and Cuba don't really fall into the DH limelight much either huh?

Wait... You don't think that could be the reason do you?
Wasn't Honda sponsoring a number of Japanese DH riders when they were running their bike program?


Also, my comment was in regards to sports that US dominates that others dont, citing examples you mentioned. Baseball in this case.

Baseball is HUGE in Japan and SE Asia as a whole. Not just at the pro level. Current little league world champions are from Japan. In the 60 some years its been held, China has won 17 times, and Japan 7 times. Then again, US has won 32 times...
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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Prestige? Maybe. It certainly is more convenient to go from town center to town center, rather than to the airport, check-in, security, wait & all that bs.
It is but the cost of building HIGH SPEED railways is crazy. In most cases its hard to make money of out it acording to the latest article Ive read.

Though regular trains that go 160kph (100mph) are great anyway and the tickets cost 10% of the high speed stuff. Unless the cities are really far away for most euro countries it is still faster than a plane.

Though I have to say Id choose train over plane any day. No problems with bike transport (crazy fees), none of that check in hassle and far smaller chance of a cavity search ;)
 

wood booger

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It is but the cost of building HIGH SPEED railways is crazy. In most cases its hard to make money of out it acording to the latest article Ive read.

Though regular trains that go 160kph (100mph) are great anyway and the tickets cost 10% of the high speed stuff. Unless the cities are really far away for most euro countries it is still faster than a plane.

Though I have to say Id choose train over plane any day. No problems with bike transport (crazy fees), none of that check in hassle and far smaller chance of a cavity search ;)
Europe is rad.

Transportation system in the US sucks balls. A 200 mile train trip takes 4+ hours and cost twice as much driving. Lame. If they ever actually put the high speed rail in Cally, it will probably be so expensive only the uber wealthy will use it.
 

Pslide

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I'd settle for some "regular" 100 mph trains in the US. So long as they were useful. Ohio has plans to build one connecting the 3 main cities - a good idea. So they've laid up all the plans and done the calculations: average speed of 39 mph. It would take longer than driving. So stupid. I'm voting that down. Do it right or don't waste tax payer's money.
 

norbar

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I'd settle for some "regular" 100 mph trains in the US. So long as they were useful. Ohio has plans to build one connecting the 3 main cities - a good idea. So they've laid up all the plans and done the calculations: average speed of 39 mph. It would take longer than driving. So stupid. I'm voting that down. Do it right or don't waste tax payer's money.
Are they kidding? I live in Poland, an ex eastern block country with railroads build by a rather weak economy loong time ago. How is it possible that with much bigger resources you cant build anything at least on par with us? That is silly.
 

dump

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The US (on the whole) isn't interested in mass public transportation. I don't have specific info on the OH rail listed above, but it could explain the state of what you see.
 

norbar

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The US (on the whole) isn't interested in mass public transportation. I don't have specific info on the OH rail listed above, but it could explain the state of what you see.
Even if you arent interested in it - if you plan to do something at least make it close to good. Where they trying to use steam trains? Oh no wait early XX century english steam trains were faster than that... So they are a bit interestd but not enough to purchase a technology from times people were not afraid of lightbulbs?
Though I was always suprised with the US craze of going by car everywhere, even if it was doable on feet or bike ;) Even Polish friends who have been living there for a couple of years now feel like its impossible to walk more than 3km.
 

Damo

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I hate public transport.
It is quicker and often cheaper to drive.
I like driving.

How's this for Ridemonkey's greatest derail! (pun)
 

norbar

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39 mph is an average over the distance...including a few stops. I think the trains travel at 70-80 mph. Still weak.
The stops must be quite long then. Also isnt it more reasonable for long distance conections to have no stops? Here connection between the capital and 2 bigger cities that are around 300km away takes under 3h. Avg is close to 60-70mph if I calculate it right and its done by trains that look like this:



40mph avg is silly unless its for aglomerations.
 

Cant Climb

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Seems when Martin W. does this he already got something lined up.....

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Transcend

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Are they kidding? I live in Poland, an ex eastern block country with railroads build by a rather weak economy loong time ago. How is it possible that with much bigger resources you cant build anything at least on par with us? That is silly.
Because the US is about a million times bigger than Poland. Infrastructure costs are much, MUCH higher.
 

norbar

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Because the US is about a million times bigger than Poland. Infrastructure costs are much, MUCH higher.
I realise the size differance but in more densely populated areas rail communication wouldnt be that hard. Some of the coastal areas have cities closer to each other than it often happens in here. For such a big country for long distances planes make more sense but but the whole area around NY, NJ and Boston is quite densly populated.
 

dump

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I realise the size differance but in more densely populated areas rail communication wouldnt be that hard. Some of the coastal areas have cities closer to each other than it often happens in here. For such a big country for long distances planes make more sense but but the whole area around NY, NJ and Boston is quite densly populated.
This area does have quite a bit of commuter rail already in place, and it is definitely used by the work crowd.
 

Transcend

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Towing the party line.
I realise the size differance but in more densely populated areas rail communication wouldnt be that hard. Some of the coastal areas have cities closer to each other than it often happens in here. For such a big country for long distances planes make more sense but but the whole area around NY, NJ and Boston is quite densly populated.
So dense in fact that you'd have to have stops every 30 ft, defeating the purpose. Also, you'd have to expropriate a ton of property just to be able to lay the rails. The US was built around a very car focused ideal, putting in things like rails now is a nightmare.
 

norbar

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I wonder how they managed to do it in japan with their population density though I get that. I still think there are places were it would be doable (somewhere between to dense to put an inch of rails and none at all so you have to make insanely long railways) but Im biased. I just love traveling by trains. By far the least tireing way of moving around.
 

dump

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So dense in fact that you'd have to have stops every 30 ft, defeating the purpose. Also, you'd have to expropriate a ton of property just to be able to lay the rails. The US was built around a very car focused ideal, putting in things like rails now is a nightmare.
Many parts of the US had a really nice commuter rail system and light rail in many cities - far more than today. These were torn up (& or abandonded) in favor of auto-only alternatives. (i.e. car only, no pedestrian, no bike.) The auto industry's role in this is well known. One example is Pittsburgh - it used to have 68 light rail routes. Now it operates 3. Funny thing is they are now considering bringing some of these back and expanding the current system.
 

epic

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I can't believe a thread about "silly season" is actually a thread about how lame America is and the (supposed) benefits of commuter rail.

Anyway, nice to know that the Syndicate isn't breaking up. Still waiting for taht Bryceland win....