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how, if the biggest fits, why cant a smaller fit? the rotors are not hollow in the middle, you sure?
The Commencal used a funny adapter, that meant you had to file / grind the frame down to even fit a 185mm, as the caliper contacted the frame.

And FYI, 185mm on the rear is becoming the industry standard: Commencal, Specialized, Morewood, even the new Turner, all either come stock with, or have 185mm post mounts built in.
 

worship_mud

Turbo Monkey
Dec 9, 2006
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The Commencal used a funny adapter, that meant you had to file / grind the frame down to even fit a 185mm, as the caliper contacted the frame.

And FYI, 185mm on the rear is becoming the industry standard: Commencal, Specialized, Morewood, even the new Turner, all either come stock with, or have 185mm post mounts built in.
not to forget, that Giant runs 180mm rotors on the Glory since 2007....
 

SteezyWeezy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2006
2,436
1
portland, oregon
doesn't anybody ever do their own research? DIRECTLY FROM THE DEMO PAGE ON SPECIALIZED.COM
"FRAME M5 manipulated alloy, compact race design, 1.5" forged HT"
"HEADSET 1.5" integrated for 1 1/8" steerer, cartridge bearings"

THESE ARE THINGS MOST PEOPLE FIGURE OUT BEFORE DROPPING $$$ ON A FRAME.
 

TurnerDHR23

Chimp
Nov 29, 2010
5
0
Seattle
doesn't anybody ever do their own research? DIRECTLY FROM THE DEMO PAGE ON SPECIALIZED.COM
"FRAME M5 manipulated alloy, compact race design, 1.5" forged HT"
"HEADSET 1.5" integrated for 1 1/8" steerer, cartridge bearings"

THESE ARE THINGS MOST PEOPLE FIGURE OUT BEFORE DROPPING $$$ ON A FRAME.
Yes I am aware that the website says that...

However, I called specialized to specify what headset actually comes with the frame and the guy I talked to was pretty much clueless as to if it even came with a headset. So... I was trying to get some first hand experience from guys that might have gotten the frame early or something. Trust me, I have done plenty of research, just wanted to get some first hand stories, thats all.
 

BOOMSLANG

Chimp
Apr 6, 2009
95
0
Morgan Hill
Hey I have a new 2011 demo on the way, and I just had a few questions for anyone who might have one.

I have heard from multiple people that you cant run an 8 inch rotor in the rear because it comes way too close to rubbing on the frame, so you have to run a 185 rotor. any truth to this?
The new Demo is 100% compatible with a 203 rotor in the rear.

Many of the earlier samples (which is mainly the only thing you are going to see pics of on the internet right now) had tight clearance, but that is all fixed for production. I bet you never heard that before :)

JC
 

bismojo

Monkey
May 5, 2009
271
39
I got mine built last week :



Frameset (Indonesia retail box) came with :
- Thomson 30.9mm
- FSA Headset zero stack (Reducer installed on frame) w/ carbon spacers
- BB30 - 24 adapter (SRAM)
- Seat clamp (non QR)
- RD Hanger protector (but the pin is not saint M810 compatible)
- Manuals, Cable ties.. ready to go

Couple more things :
- Rubber Bumpers and Steerer spacer for FOX40 (included in box)
(apparently new demo is not FOX40 friendly (?) but they got free kit for it)
- Overall the paint could be better quality (few missing small lettering on the decals and some clear coat blemishes) but the details are amazing.
- Can't mount SRAM X7 10speed RD that i got one for testing/review, the limiter ring is larger than the cavity of demo's RD hanger.
- 38T (i'm lazy pedaller) chainring on saint M815 bb + 2 spacer rings barely fits, also E.13 LG1+ will fit with limited space (why dont they include the trick 9-26 cassette + hub for free hahaha)
- The chainstay protector is now bolted to the swing arm (kudos to the designers)

Hope this helps, i can post more pics if you want.

Greeting to JC, I've got 2006, 2007 and 2010 demos and the designers do a great job IMHO

Cheers :thumb:

biz.
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,040
3
Towing the party line.
That looks great! I can't wait for mine. Good to hear they included all of the little extras to keep everyone pumped. Nothing more annoying than missing some proprietary spacer when you start to build.
 

bismojo

Monkey
May 5, 2009
271
39
All green bikes coming with rainbow stripes?
The red-white frameset also comes with uci stripes, but my friend's 'sample' bikes that came 2 months ago didn't. Also slightly different oval nut at swing arm pivot.
 

FOXROX

Turbo Monkey
Jun 23, 2007
2,120
0
hambur,nj
I got mine built last week :

pic

Frameset (Indonesia retail box) came with :
- Thomson 30.9mm
- FSA Headset zero stack (Reducer installed on frame) w/ carbon spacers
- BB30 - 24 adapter (SRAM)
- Seat clamp (non QR)
- RD Hanger protector (but the pin is not saint M810 compatible)
- Manuals, Cable ties.. ready to go

Couple more things :
- Rubber Bumpers and Steerer spacer for FOX40 (included in box)
(apparently new demo is not FOX40 friendly (?) but they got free kit for it)
- Overall the paint could be better quality (few missing small lettering on the decals and some clear coat blemishes) but the details are amazing.
- Can't mount SRAM X7 10speed RD that i got one for testing/review, the limiter ring is larger than the cavity of demo's RD hanger.
- 38T (i'm lazy pedaller) chainring on saint M815 bb + 2 spacer rings barely fits, also E.13 LG1+ will fit with limited space (why dont they include the trick 9-26 cassette + hub for free hahaha)
- The chainstay protector is now bolted to the swing arm (kudos to the designers)

Hope this helps, i can post more pics if you want.

Greeting to JC, I've got 2006, 2007 and 2010 demos and the designers do a great job IMHO

Cheers :thumb:

biz.
what size is that? im assuming small. it looks awesome. Any close ups? mine should be here next week, along with my p3!
 

Santa Maria

Monkey
Aug 29, 2007
653
0
Austria
I got mine built last week :



Frameset (Indonesia retail box) came with :
- Thomson 30.9mm
- FSA Headset zero stack (Reducer installed on frame) w/ carbon spacers
- BB30 - 24 adapter (SRAM)
- Seat clamp (non QR)
- RD Hanger protector (but the pin is not saint M810 compatible)
- Manuals, Cable ties.. ready to go

Couple more things :
- Rubber Bumpers and Steerer spacer for FOX40 (included in box)
(apparently new demo is not FOX40 friendly (?) but they got free kit for it)
- Overall the paint could be better quality (few missing small lettering on the decals and some clear coat blemishes) but the details are amazing.
- Can't mount SRAM X7 10speed RD that i got one for testing/review, the limiter ring is larger than the cavity of demo's RD hanger.
- 38T (i'm lazy pedaller) chainring on saint M815 bb + 2 spacer rings barely fits, also E.13 LG1+ will fit with limited space (why dont they include the trick 9-26 cassette + hub for free hahaha)
- The chainstay protector is now bolted to the swing arm (kudos to the designers)

Hope this helps, i can post more pics if you want.

Greeting to JC, I've got 2006, 2007 and 2010 demos and the designers do a great job IMHO

Cheers :thumb:

biz.
sick bike - i got a call from my lbs that my frame has arrived too:-)

Good to hear that the press fit bb needs adapters and not the other way round.
 

A.P

Monkey
Nov 21, 2005
423
0
boston
I got my demo 8 1 yesterday (red and black) and it also has UCI stripes on the top link. The red is a lot brighter than I thought it would be, looks good.

Some cool details too, all non-structural bolts are aluminum (cable guide clips, headset cap bolt etc), and for what its worth everything on my frame was properly torqued, threads greased and loctite'd where needed.

The fork came with only a soft spring and no drop crown, and the bolt-on chainslap guard is neat but lacks coverage. There is a cut-out in it where the chain passes very close the the frame in the 11t/12t cog (only a couple mm clearance), so its getting ditched for soft velcro.

If only I could fast forward 6 months and ride it..
 

mullarks

Chimp
May 9, 2008
33
0
I picked up my Demo II last Friday in SoCal, so they ashould be arriving everywhere shortly. Rode it twice this past weekend and was really impressed, just gotta get used to the super low BB.
Nice. Saw a complete demo 1 the other day on a local trail as well. Good to see they are finally landing in North America. Super pumped...
 

ditchpig

Chimp
Jun 11, 2006
14
0
Bellingham WA
Got my Demo 8 I built up - frames come with world championship stripes on the swingarm, but they are just easily removable stickers (which is good, 'cause I'm not the world champion).
 
Has the wheel path changed on the new demo to something more rearward?
Apparently so - a video a while back confirmed they'd tweaked it for more rearward movement.

What's the BB/HA at now for the 2011's?
13.5" / 64*


Just got my frame and have built it up. So much love! It sits at about 17kg right now with a not too conscious build. Can't wait to slay'er tomorrow!
 

JCL

Monkey
Aug 31, 2008
696
0
Has the wheel path changed on the new demo to something more rearward?
Looking at the pivot placement I doubt it. Not that it matters, rearward axle paths are were only really ever a marketing idea.
 

EVIL JN

Monkey
Jul 24, 2009
491
24
I think i am going to try my angleset in the -1.5 setting with some 2.2 wetscreams (for snow riding) to see how low it can go just for fun.
 

Raingauge

Monkey
Apr 3, 2008
692
0
Canadia
Looking at the pivot placement I doubt it. Not that it matters, rearward axle paths are were only really ever a marketing idea.
I've ridden older demos; rearward axle path isn't marketing when you can feel your momentum slowing on square hits.
 

Ithnu

Monkey
Jul 16, 2007
961
0
Denver
Interesting. What bike did you find maintained it's momentum on such terrain?
Ever rode an older Yeti 303? The ones with the dual rails. I rode a friend's, he's roughly the same height/weight as me, and my first thought was "wholly crap its like cheating through rock gardens".

It didn't feel the best cornering because of all that hardware up higher on the frame; but it was amazing on square hits.
 

Raingauge

Monkey
Apr 3, 2008
692
0
Canadia
Interesting. What bike did you find maintained it's momentum on such terrain?
Mainly single pivots an VP style bikes. I rode a Demo 9 for four seasons and have ridden two demo 8's (06 and 08).

The SP's were revolt, commencal and flatlines (old and new version). VP style bikes were Sunday, v10, uzzi and vp free.

Could be my riding style but norco's have felt similar to me too.
 

mullarks

Chimp
May 9, 2008
33
0
About 175 lbs and the stock 400 lbs spring that comes with the medium. But I want to try a 350 lbs spring since I was only getting about 23-25% sag when it was measured at the shop.

Dear 2011 Demo Owners!

How heavy are you and what spring weights did you use so far!

Thanx in advance