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Chainguide help.

AlCapone

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Apr 5, 2009
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I am in need of a new chainguide. I'm looking for something that will hold up to some hard knocks, but it's not like I'm going to be doing chainguide grinds or anything. I've been looking at the e13 LG1+ and SRS+ because they seem to have a pretty good track record. Are there any others that I should look at?
 

dexterq20

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Mar 6, 2003
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I've always used e13 chainguides and have been completely happy with them.

:spam: I have an older SRS with a brand new Turbocharger bash guard for sale, as well as a brand new Gamut P30 guide for sale. :spam:
 

cableguy

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Jun 23, 2007
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I asked the same question to the e13 guys, and they said that SRS+ is better for average riders. More durable and can take more hits. LG1+ is a little lighter, so better for racers and weight weenies. I have a MRP G2 on my Jedi, and that works pretty well too.
 

Sandwich

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While I think I would have preferred and SRS+ over my LG1+, I'm very happy with my LG1+. I like the idea of running a full bash better, and the weight penalty was pretty negligible, but e13 told me of some issues with the new saint cranks and the SRS+, so I stuck with the LG1. Plus I couldn't find the SRS in stock anywhere.

Anyways, after some struggling with chainline issues, mostly due to inexperience with chainguides (came from a brooklyn) the thing is working fine. I was a little disappointed with the instructions, they tried to be clever and dumb it down, but it doesn't really work for garage mechanics with limited experience playing with chainguides. I have otherwise been fairly pleased with the guide, and haven't had any bend or break issues yet, knock wood.
 

DirtyMike

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I don't like spam. Why should I go for the SRS+ instead of the LG1+?
I have two answers

First, as mentioned above, the SrS is better for the average rider

Second...Your young, young riders have a big tendancy to plow rather to flow, and I really hate to see later this year you be posting on how to fix your bent up ISCG mounts. Much rather hear you jacked your cranks instead, its easier to fix.
 

PhilipW

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Mar 13, 2007
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Ah man, I missed out on all the fun. I just got back from St. Anne.

Al, it looks like you have a Stinky as well (I have an 06 Deluxe). I've currently got an SRS+ on mine, no problems at all. Honestly, the SRS+ is bombproof and should hold up fine for you. I run my bike on the soft side and havn't had any problems yet.

Cheers,
philip @ e*thirteen
 

Bicyclist

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Apr 4, 2004
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Probably the square profile of the spider on the Saints interferes with the shape of the bashguard (or at least that was an issue w/ the old ones).
 

Sandwich

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If I remember correctly, it has something to do with the thickness of the spider on the saint crank and the thickness of the e.13 chainguide. I think that, when combined with their chainguide, spacing could be off. The solution was to either run a different ring or run the LG1+. I'll see if I can dig up more accurate info.
 

DirtyMike

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If I remember correctly, it has something to do with the thickness of the spider on the saint crank and the thickness of the e.13 chainguide. I think that, when combined with their chainguide, spacing could be off. The solution was to either run a different ring or run the LG1+. I'll see if I can dig up more accurate info.
NO that was it, run a standard ring, or run an LG1. You dont want to run a saint chainring anyways, Too fuggin expensive
 

Sandwich

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e.13 said:
It is possible to run the SRS+ with the new Saints, as long as you use a standard step DH chainring along with the Turbocharger. The stock Saint setup uses a 2mm indent in the bashguard (so that it sits over the chainring tabs) and a 2mm step in the chainring (to space it out from the bashguard). As long as you use a standard chainring, you should be all set.

To keep things simple, all of our pro racers who run 09 Saints are now on the LG1+. This removes the funky spacing caused by the oversized 5mm chainring tabs on the cranks.
hope this helps and is OK to post. Sounds like it's the SAINT ring and not the e.13 one.
 

godfather

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Jul 2, 2009
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Thanks for the info guys. I should be in the clear as I'm not running a Saint ring. My guide should be here in the next day or two, so we'll see.
 

Zark

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Oct 18, 2001
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Probably the square profile of the spider on the Saints interferes with the shape of the bashguard (or at least that was an issue w/ the old ones).
negative, the new saint cranks have super thick chainring tabs that throw off the basguard alignment too far out. I think you can just use the Saint bashguard with the rest of the SRS and have a decent setup.
 

cowman

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Oct 17, 2004
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Hey guys, I'm looking to get an SRS but have Saint cranks (2011). Is it a better idea to stay away from the SRS based on the spacing that the spider tabs create?

Thanks

Cameron
 

Sonic Reducer

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Mar 19, 2006
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one of the things about an open style chainguide like an LG1 is that it becomes a lot easier to clean the chainring and they wont pack up full of mud between the chainring and bashring. in some ways a bash ring is better though because in an impact the crank is taking the force instead of the iscg tabs like a chainguide with a banana type gaurd. iscg tabs will definitely get tweaked.
 

Sandwich

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Hey guys, I'm looking to get an SRS but have Saint cranks (2011). Is it a better idea to stay away from the SRS based on the spacing that the spider tabs create?

Thanks

Cameron
from my understanding, yes. It's in the FAQ on the e13 forum, but basically my understanding was that new saint cranks have wider chainring tabs and slightly different spacing. You can rig an SRS+ to work, but the LG1+ works better in this application.

I've run my saints and LG1+ for two years with no hiccups, lost parts, or exploding rollers....I originally wanted an SRS for the same reasons, but "settled" on the LG1 which has been flawless.
 

cowman

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Oct 17, 2004
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Awesome, thanks guys.

I sold my old bike with a lg1+ plus on it (which i was fairly happy with - cracked taco). My new Session 88 came with an MRP G2 guide which I am pretty sketched out by. The construction of the plastic seems very flimsy compared to my lg1+.
 

illnotsick

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Jun 3, 2009
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What were the issues with the Saints and the SRS+? This was the combo that I was looking at.
The spider is a little to thick, the chain can come off the ring and get lodged between the chain ring and bash guard. About 2 minutes with a dremel and the bashguard, I've never had an issue.
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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Straighline Silent Guide. They come with a Saint fit kit and have no moving parts. Win!
2nd that. That guide is the best thing since pizza and beer met in my flat. It also has a proper thick backplate so it wont bend like the e13s do after a harder hit. Not to mention it is lighter than srs+ (closer to lg1+ in weight)
 

quickneonrt

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Apr 8, 2003
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2nd that. That guide is the best thing since pizza and beer met in my flat. It also has a proper thick backplate so it wont bend like the e13s do after a harder hit. Not to mention it is lighter than srs+ (closer to lg1+ in weight)
Negative point.........aluminum bash guard
 

Sandwich

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Awesome, thanks guys.

I sold my old bike with a lg1+ plus on it (which i was fairly happy with - cracked taco). My new Session 88 came with an MRP G2 guide which I am pretty sketched out by. The construction of the plastic seems very flimsy compared to my lg1+.
looks can be deceiving. I thought the plastic on the LG1+ looked like a child's toy, but it's held up well for me. In fact, I couldn't believe I paid over a hundred bucks for it when I got it, but I have no complaints, and that's exactly what a guide should do. I wouldn't discount the MRP just because it doesn't say e13 on the side, but if it makes you sleep better at night, sell it now before it's used and buy something else.
 

IH8Rice

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My new Session 88 came with an MRP G2 guide which I am pretty sketched out by. The construction of the plastic seems very flimsy compared to my lg1+.
the G2 is a great chainguide. i ran mine for almost two years before a tiny accident ( that would have destroyed a LG1 too)
 

norbar

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Dents and bends instead of sliding over a rock. Do they still come stock with those ugly green plastic parts? Last year you had to buy black and other colors separately. Then black was always sold out.
It's obvious you didnt ride one. First - the bash is from 7075 alu. It's really hard to dent it or bend it. It will scratch but will not bend. Quite the opposite to the honeycomb srs+ guard that bends and dents quite easily. I used it for the past season on a really low bike and bash grinded many rocks. There are no dents on it. Only scratches. I don't know where you got this ideas from but I'm quite sure you've had no contact with it.

As for green sliders - they match my frame perfectly. Haven't tried to order black. Have some friends with reds.
 

infamous24

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Oct 28, 2008
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I'm running the Straitline Silent Guide. I haven't got any rides on it yet, but the backplate is very thick as others have mentioned. I bought it because it has no moving parts and is simple. True to it's name, it is almost dead silent. As for the aluminum bashring, I've never had a problem with them catching on rocks or bending.