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I guess I don't understand where this fits, when they already have the genesis sedan??? Seems to me like they should do what everyone else does and create a second brand for their luxo models, just so you don't have to say "I drive a 60k$ Hyundai"
 

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Seems to me like they should do what everyone else does and create a second brand for their luxo models, just so you don't have to say "I drive a 60k$ Hyundai"
but hey, it comes with a Ipad as a owner's manual!

$60k Hyundai? joke of the year. lets see....Mercedes, BMW, Audi or Hyundai?



Yay! A new top-notch model from the cheapest cars on the planet!!
thats Kia
 

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I hate to admit it, because I am pro domestic automaker from an economic stand point, and a loyalty standpoint, well and I think in the categories of cars that I purchase they are also the best bang for the buck, but we can leave that argument out of it.....BUT, the hyundai cars are actually becoming pretty solid cars.....you'll never see one in my driveway, but I'll at least admit they are pretty solid platforms.
 
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Agree I think the Sonata is one of the best designed cars in its category and even comes in a hybrid and people are buying them. The Equus on the other hand I am not impressed off at all but is can see what they are tying to do.
 

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but hey, it comes with a Ipad as a owner's manual!

$60k Hyundai? joke of the year. lets see....Mercedes, BMW, Audi or Hyundai?
It's no different than the VW Phaeton, and will probably sell in minuscule numbers just like the Phaeton (outside of Korea, of course, where they already sell tons of them). Actually, come to think of it, it's no different than the Ford GT (lost money on every one), the Lexus LFA (lost money on every one) Veyron (lost money on every one), etc. It's a halo product, designed to raise awareness of the brand and *hopefully* sell more lower and mid-priced products.

I have no idea whether Hyundai can match the high-end Germans in their luxury cars, but I'll bet good money that this will be as good or better than Lexus, Acura or Infinity...
 

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It's no different than the VW Phaeton, and will probably sell in minuscule numbers just like the Phaeton (outside of Korea, of course, where they already sell tons of them). Actually, come to think of it, it's no different than the Ford GT (lost money on every one), the Lexus LFA (lost money on every one) Veyron (lost money on every one), etc. It's a halo product, designed to raise awareness of the brand and *hopefully* sell more lower and mid-priced products.

I have no idea whether Hyundai can match the high-end Germans in their luxury cars, but I'll bet good money that this will be as good or better than Lexus, Acura or Infinity...
the Phaeton had a lot more luxury items then the Equus does and it was essentially a Audi with a VW badge on it....reclining rear seats, giant engine options, long wheelbase....

calling the Equus a "halo" project and comparing it to the LFA, Ford GT or Veryon is ludicrous. and no, it isnt as good as as a Lexus LS.
 

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The Genesis is selling pretty well for Hyundai, I won't be suprised if the Equus takes off.

The plan is for Hyundai to create another brand called 'Genesis' if the Equus is successful. The car is very nice in person, it really gives Lexus and BMW a run for thier money. Not everyone wants the status symbol of a luxury brand.

Flyinploack, read some press on Hyundai, they make a solid product. Crap in te 1990's not now. Toyota and Honda were in this position years ago. Nissan is crap, the GM of Japan.
 

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i love how theres one Hyundai emblem on the car...like they dont want you to know its a Hyundai. Oldsmobile did that with the Aurora
 

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All the new Lexus' I see here are hybrids, seems to be where the future lies for the high 5 figure sedan market. When Hyundai can actually sell their cars in Japan I'll be impressed, though it'll be more difficult now that they've pulled out of the Japanese market.
 

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the Phaeton had a lot more luxury items then the Equus does and it was essentially a Audi with a VW badge on it....reclining rear seats, giant engine options, long wheelbase....

calling the Equus a "halo" project and comparing it to the LFA, Ford GT or Veryon is ludicrous. and no, it isnt as good as as a Lexus LS.
Lol, says the person who's probably never sat in an LS, and almost definitely has never even seen an Equus in real life. You're wearing your screen name well. :rofl:
 

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Lol, says the person who's probably never sat in an LS, and almost definitely has never even seen an Equus in real life. You're wearing your screen name well. :rofl:
my uncle has the 2011 LS and ive driven it as well...in fact ive driven every model revision LS since 2000. the 2011 LS is a HUGE improvement over prior generations
and i probably saw this car in person before boogenman did, who works at a Hyundai dealership. Hyundai had the car at the NY Auto show in April.......2009.
try again?
 
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I don't see the need to hide the badge if the car is quality.

I do recall the double take I did in Dubai when I saw my first Honda NSX. But if I were buying an NSX, I wouldn't care if it had one of these on it.

 

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Hyundai had the car at the NY Auto show in April.......2009.
try again?
IH8Rice said:
the Phaeton had a lot more luxury items then the Equus does and it was essentially a Audi with a VW badge on it....reclining rear seats, giant engine options, long wheelbase....
Uh....

edumunds.com said:
The Equus Ultimate seats four, as the rear bench seat is replaced with a pair of reclining bucket seats with heating/cooling/massaging functions and a passenger-side power footrest.
More from edmunds:

Interior Design and Special Features

If you're wondering whether a value-oriented brand like Hyundai can produce a luxury car, the cabin of the Equus will put your mind at ease. Just about every luxury and convenience feature found on a premium-badge car is available, and the quality of the design and materials is first class. It might not measure up to a European car like an Audi or Jaguar, but it matches anything you see from Acura, Infiniti or Lexus.

We particularly recommend the Equus Ultimate, a trim level that includes all the top-of-the-line features in a unique four-passenger configuration. The twin rear seats not only are both heated and cooled but also recline and offer a massage function. The passenger-side rear seat even has a power-operated footrest, though we've found in testing that it doesn't extend enough for passengers with long legs.

All navigation, climate, vehicle and entertainment information is displayed on a large LCD screen, while a knob and button array similar to the Audi MMI controls it. The climate controls consist of remarkably simple knobs and buttons. In a segment where vehicles can be hopelessly complex, the Equus does a good job of keeping its vast amount of technology manageable.
Sorry, try again?
 

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Just going off of what others int he idustry talk about. I don't know of any professional autobody guys that have anything good to say about Nissan.
so because the autobody guys dont like them, makes them a bad car? funny because Nissan sold 81k cars last month and Hyundai only sold 44k cars. Nissan must be doing something wrong :rolleyes:
thats 3000 cars a day to Hyundai's 1600

edit: Ford sold more F-series trucks last year then Hyundai did of all their cars
 
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so because the autobody guys dont like them, makes them a bad car? funny because Nissan sold 81k cars last month and Hyundai only sold 44k cars. Nissan must be doing something wrong :rolleyes:
thats 3000 cars a day to Hyundai's 1600
Nissan also has a full line of SUVs and pickups where Hyundai does not.
 

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In all fairness, my mother's X-Terra (now traded in) and father's Frontier have been nothing but great....not saying Nissan is crap at all, just wanted to point out that wasn't exactly a fair comparison. That's like saying Santa Cruz sold more bikes than Indy Fab.....of course they did, they have a much greater lineup to choose from.
 

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If their cars were better then they would be selling even more cars!

I have an Xterra and have been disappointed with the long term reliability of the truck. I thought it was just bad luck on my part, buying a lemon, but it turns out that quite a few other people with Xterras have been having the same issues. From Sensors going out, timing chains wearing out prematurely, to catalytic converters that won't last more than 30k miles.

I have three recall notices in front of me that I've received this year from Nissan. The ECU recall, the Fuel Sensor, and the Crash Zone Sensor. Wish the ECU recall woud've happened sooner before it left stranded and needed to have the car towed home.

Hmmm...Maybe I should go look at Hyundai's...
Toyota purportedly had tons of problems yet they still outsold both Nissan and Hyundai...combined. and the #3 selling vehicle in the US was one that was recalled :rolleyes:
Nissan actually is ahead of Toyota in terms of lack of recalls with their cars. FAR ahead of them.
every car company is going to have recalls.
 

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Toyota purportedly had tons of problems yet they still outsold both Nissan and Hyundai...combined. and the #3 selling vehicle in the US was one that was recalled :rolleyes:
Nissan actually is ahead of Toyota in terms of lack of recalls with their cars. FAR ahead of them.
every car company is going to have recalls.
You're right...Nissan forever!

I don't have a problem with recalls...but I do have a problem with the parts that were warrantied failing multiple times, like the ECU and catalytic converters.
 

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It's no different than the VW Phaeton, and will probably sell in minuscule numbers just like the Phaeton (outside of Korea, of course, where they already sell tons of them). Actually, come to think of it, it's no different than the Ford GT (lost money on every one), the Lexus LFA (lost money on every one) Veyron (lost money on every one), etc. It's a halo product, designed to raise awareness of the brand and *hopefully* sell more lower and mid-priced products.

I have no idea whether Hyundai can match the high-end Germans in their luxury cars, but I'll bet good money that this will be as good or better than Lexus, Acura or Infinity...
This think is not even close to a Phaeton, that was a very special car. But I do think it will probably be on par with any Lexus.
 

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You're right...Nissan forever!

I don't have a problem with recalls...but I do have a problem with the parts that were warrantied failing multiple times, like the ECU and catalytic converters.
thats called a Lemon. call your lawyer.

im not trying to defend Nissan or try and make someone buy one. i had a new '09 Altima and loved it and trying to get a Murano now. I also like Hyundais for the money, but a $60k big brother to the Genesis is funny.
 

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thats called a Lemon. call your lawyer.

im not trying to defend Nissan or try and make someone buy one. i had a new '09 Altima and loved it and trying to get a Murano now. I also like Hyundais for the money, but a $60k big brother to the Genesis is funny.

But remember, Toyota at one time also had an image problem. They were thought of only as a manufacturer of low-cost cars. Perceptions change over time...