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SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
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Single ply? Not "hating" on the bike, but single ply tires have no place on a DH bike.
I agree. I'd get a flat just by looking at the wrong line with those tires.

Freakin' light, tho. Your DH bike is lighter than my Nomad. :rofl:
 
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IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
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My 2010 TR450 weighs about 39.5lbs. I know the 2011 frames cut about .5lb and that Vivid Air likely makes a huge difference. Good job sir.
its still a 5lb difference. i dont think the vivid air will save you 4.5lbs.
though the tires do save a ton of weight.

where did they cut .5lbs from the frame?
 

nmpearson

Monkey
Dec 30, 2006
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I agree. I'd get a flat just by looking at the wrong line with those tires.

Freakin' light, tho. You're DH bike is lighter than my Nomad. :rofl:
i used the same tires all last year on my last TR450...super grippy, great size, and i only flatted twice. This is in utah!
 

supercow

Monkey
Feb 18, 2009
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Big "fuller figured" bloke on single ply tyres all for the sake of e-penis points.
Winner!
 

dagmz6s

Monkey
Jan 12, 2008
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Merion, PA
its still a 5lb difference. i dont think the vivid air will save you 4.5lbs.
though the tires do save a ton of weight.

where did they cut .5lbs from the frame?
Agreed, figure the vivid air saves 1.5lbs over my vivid + steel coil. thats only 2lbs of the 5lbs. Single ply tires over my muddy marys is another 2lbs though I suppose and then it becomes more realistic.

They cut .5lb from the front triangle if I remember correctly, just thinning out spots where they could.
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
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FWIW, I'd guess my medium 450 to be in the 41-42lb range, but that is a 2010 frame, 2010 888 EVO, steel spring RC4, and relatively heavy wheels (with dual ply rubbers).

At some point, I will definitely be thinking about a CCDB or a Vivid Air, but I'll always run 2X tires.
 

fr-kye

Chimp
Jan 18, 2011
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Fall City WA.
Frame - M 2010 Trek Session 88
Rear shock - Fox RC4
Front shock/fork - 2010 Fox 40 (black)
Handlebars - Deity Dirty 30's)
Stem - Function Integrated stem/ crown
Grips - anything ODI
Saddle - WTB Silverado
Seatpost - WTB
Front brake - Shimano Saint
Rear brake - Shimano Saint
Cranks - Shimano Saint
Chainguide - e*Thirteen LG1+
Chain - Shimano
Pedals - Deity Decoy
Rear derailleur - Shimano Saint SS
Rear shifter - Shimano Saint
Cassette - Shimano Saint
Front hub - Hope Pro II
Rear hub - Hope Pro II
Front rim - Stans NoTubes ZTR Flow
Rear rim - Stans NoTubes ZTR Flow
Tires - Maxxis Minion DHF and Specialized Chunder
Total Weight- 37.23 lbs.

not all my parts are on the pics. i just got some of them about a week ago
 

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Da Peach

Outwitted by a rodent
Jul 2, 2002
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My 2010 TR450 weighs about 39.5lbs. I know the 2011 frames cut about .5lb and that Vivid Air likely makes a huge difference. Good job sir.


Mine's 40.9. Steel sprung RC4, 721 rims, dual ply tires, rear DH tube.

Pretty happy with hit.
 

Jase76

Monkey
Aug 10, 2007
176
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Australia
I got a bit of air suspension to test for a little while. It lightened my bike a hell of a lot. 16.1kg = 35.5lb.

The Vivid Air has been great so far, I really like it.:)



Apologies for the crappy shot.
 

whiteman

Chimp
Jun 25, 2010
35
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My trusty 2008 Sunday is still going strong. So for 2011 I had the frame and a lot of small parts anodised purple and black. I also installed a bunch of purple titanium and alloy bolts to match.

Frame – 2008 Ironhorse Sunday - Custom anodised purple/black
Rear shock – 2008 Rock Shox Vivid 5.1 - Custom anodised purple spring collar and compression dial
Front Fork – 2008 Rock Shox World Cup - Purple Ti crown bolts, custom anodised purple air cap
Handlebars – Element Technic Nickel Wide Flat Bar
Stem – Funn RSX
Headset – Orbit IS Carbon w/ E-Thirteen reducer cups – Anodised purple alloy compression bolt
Grips – Lizard Skin Logo Lock-On
Bar Ends – Transition Bike Co.
Saddle – WTB Devo
Seatpost – Thomson Elite
Front Brake – Avid Juicy Carbon 185mm Rotor - Anodised purple alloy bolts, custom anodised purple pad contact dial
Rear Brake – Avid Juicy Carbon 185mm Rotor - Anodised purple alloy bolts, custom anodised purple pad contact dial
Cranks – Shimano Saint
Chainguide – E-Thirteen SRS - Anodised purple alloy chain ring bolts
Chain Ring – E-Thirteen Guide Ring 36t
Chain – Shimano Dura-Ace
Pedals – Atomlab Trail King
Rear Derailleur – Sram XO Short Cage - Anodised purple alloy jockey wheels/adjustment bolts
Rear Shifter – Sram XO - Anodised purple shifter paddle/clamp
Cassette – Sram PG-970DH - Anodised purple lock-ring
Front Hub – DT Swiss 240 Oversized
Rear Hub – DT Swiss 440
Front Rim – Dt Swiss EX5.1D 32h
Rear Rim – Mavic 721 32h
Spokes - DT Swiss
Nipples – Anodised purple alloy
Front Tyre - Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5
Rear Tyre – Maxxis High Roller 2.5
Tubes – Maxxis Freeride
Ti Bolt Locations – Fork crowns, brake calipers, brake mounts, seat clamp
Alloy Bolt Locations – All derailleur bolts, brake levers, headset, chain ring
Total weight – 17.94kg



















 
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blackohio

Generous jaywalker
Mar 12, 2009
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Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
youre still considering a first-gen Evil? :think:

not a first gen obviously. I'll be honest my bike lasted 2 years of serious hack abuse. Thats fine by me, and once the new warranty frames are arriving i'll have the choice to upgrade for cost to a undead or just have another Revolt shipped. I, like so many people tend to change bikes every few years and I had not a single complaint about my frame until noticing small stress cracks. New bikes have problems, especially entirely new suspension designs, so im willing to give it some time to ironout.

Im super stoked to have this Canfield though and cannot wait to get it out and ride. I have a few friends that want to try riding out and dont have bikes so having this and a evil will be perfect to build up 2 bikes so someone else can ride.
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
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not a first gen obviously. and I had not a single complaint about my frame until noticing small stress cracks. New bikes have problems, especially entirely new suspension designs, so im willing to give it some time to ironout.
isnt the Undead's suspension setup completely different then the Revolt's? they couldnt get aluminum right and id be afraid to ride their first attempt at CF IMO.
even if you replace bikes every so often like i do, barely 2 years out of a bike is not good.
i cant even begin to think of the warranty wait if you break their CF bike. and buying it at cost is great but youre still paying for a replacement
how long have you been waiting for yours anyway??
 
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blackohio

Generous jaywalker
Mar 12, 2009
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Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
I sent mine back in December shortly after my AC Separation. I was upfront with Kevin about not needing a frame soon since it was both winter and rehab time for me.

Im not sure how the undead differs from the revolt, wether or not it'll still be delta is unknown outside the small circle of test riders and Evil's camp. Evil has always been good to me when I needed help or parts after rebuilds and as long as Kevin is still doing it i'll give him my business. I needed new hardware before and emailed Kevin and got a huge bag-o-parts for my bike.

They'll still be doing the Al Revolt in addition to the CF Undead and its been my understanding the undead has been seeing quite alot of rider testing. I talk to Kevin often and Im confident in what they're doing. I bought a first gen bike and would do it again given my situation. I think alot of the layup issues with the Al frame will be solved going to carbon. Companies are proving that carbon can be as tough if not tougher than AL.
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
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Im over here now
They'll still be doing the Al Revolt in addition to the CF Undead and its been my understanding the undead has been seeing quite alot of rider testing.
well they seem to have learned something at least

from the pic ive seen, it does look cool but until they get the kinks out via their test riders (and customers :rolleyes:), itd be way off my radar
 

ecsnsmb

Chimp
Jun 10, 2008
56
0
NJ
Back on the trusty DHR for '11. Plans include some Saint M810 goodies and perhaps an updated 40, but other than that, she is golden.

And new for this season is my all mountain doohickey. (I know the chain is short.) So stoked!
 

4130biker

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May 24, 2007
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HEY, where did you find a knock of my 2011 giant?
 
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gollub01

Chimp
Sep 10, 2010
50
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jh wyoming
hah I have that giant atx....actually its a proto I got from the giant team manager from 2000. I think its a one off for miles rockwell....Im restoring it for my vintage dh bike