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amishmatt

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I remember seeing a mention of the upcoming Nuke Proof plastic pedals with metal pins. These look very similar:

From the Deity Blog:

Tired of the typical unsealed garbage all plastic pedal that you see everywhere and offered by everyone? We are...

Far from the "average" plastic pedal, the deity pedal line will be expanding even further with the introduction of the deity Compound Pedals in JUNE. Injection molded from a Nylon Fiber blend, the Compound Pedal's non-exclusive mold utilizes 6 replaceable Cr-MO pins per side and has a super thin profile.

From Downhill, Dirt Jumping, Street, 20", to even All Mountain, the deity Compound pedals thrive in many settings and with the replaceable Cr-mo pins, traction is phenomenal.

Spinning on a DU Bushing and double micro sealed bearing system, the deity Compound pedals will be 100% serviceable. You heard right...we will also be offering replacement pedal bodies, pin kits, internals, spindles, etc., so as you tear up a pedal...you can rebuild it with ease and save your precious dinero.

Gone are the days of throwing away a cheap plastic pedal every month and what is even better...we plan to retail the deity Compound pedal for $45!

A set of plastic pedals with replaceable Cr-mo pins, that are fully rebuildable, are thinner than most aluminum pedals, weigh only 346g for the set, and will retail for $45! We think that is tough to beat.

They are currently in production with an availability date of JUNE and will be available in Black, Purple, Red, and Green...









For $45, I think they'll be worth a try.
 
amishmatt

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scottishmark said:
hhhmmmm straight out of the HT components catalogue then.
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No different than their current alloy offerings.

*edit: Maybe that's what they mean by "the Compound Pedal's non-exclusive mold."

jonKranked said:
I would wanna see how well they work with a set of 5.10's. Could be sufficient.
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My Atomlab Aircorp's with eight pins and 5.10's work great. Wonder if the 5.10's will stick as well to plastic?
 
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i think the cool point is that they are fully serviceable, i go through a few sets of pc pedals every summer on my hardtail, if i have to pay 45 and then just have to buy a new spindle or pedal body to keep them going, seems great to me. ill defiantly be trying them out
 
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jonKranked said:
wow wtf?! the most expensive plastic pedals i've seen until now are $26. most are in the $15-$20. $45 is kinda crazy for what is a basically disposable component, unless their nylon blend is really that durable.
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If you look at most, if not almost all, plastic pedals on the market...they use plastic molded pins, are thick, and do not use sealed bearings. These type of pedals retail at $15-20 because they are as entry level as you can get and everyone seems to use them. That type of pedal is truly disposable, non-serviceable, and something that you would expect to find on a department store bike. No offense to the companies using them because before, there were no other options.

Our cost to manufacture the Compound pedals is more than the retail price of some of these plastic pedals. Some of the reasons why are:

They spin on a DU Bushing and Double Micro Sealed Bearings
They are rebuildable
They are incredibly thin
They feature replaceable Cr-Mo pins
They are made of a Nylon Blend that is not brittle like Poly Carbonate plastic pedals that love to shatter on impact
Plus more...

All it takes is one ride on them to realize they are as far from "standard" plastic pedals as it can get. The Nylon Fiber blend skims off rocks easy, if you destroy a pedal body, you can get a replacement for dirt cheap from us, they are as thin as most of the thinnest aluminum pedals on the market, they are lighter than most also, and because it is not our own exclusive mold...we want to offer them at the most cost effective price we can pull off for everyone.

When the time comes...we think you guys will be quite excited about these pedals as they are really amazing for so many different applications.

Regards,

Eric
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So with these maybe pedal strikes on rocks will be less jarring because the pedal can will deform more than an AL pedal and absorb the impact better. Sorta like a plastic bashguard vs AL ones.

Edit-derp sniped, good post by Deity!
 
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deitybikeco said:
If you look at most, if not almost all, plastic pedals on the market...they use plastic molded pins, are thick, and do not use sealed bearings. These type of pedals retail at $15-20 because they are as entry level as you can get and everyone seems to use them. That type of pedal is truly disposable, non-serviceable, and something that you can find on a department store bike. No offense to the companies using them because before, there were no other options.

Our cost to manufacture the Compound pedals is more than the retail price of some of these plastic pedals. Some of the reasons why are:

They spin on a DU Bushing and Double Micro Sealed Bearings
They are rebuildable
They are incredibly thin
They feature replaceable Cr-Mo pins
They are made of a Nylon Blend that is not as brittle as most plastic pedals
Plus more...

All it takes is one ride on them to realize they are as far from "standard" plastic pedals as it can get. The Nylon Fiber blend skims off rocks easy, if you destroy a pedal body, you can get a replacement for dirt cheap from us, they are as thin as most of the thinnest aluminum pedals on the market, they are lighter than most also, and because it is not our own exclusive mold...we want to offer them at the most cost effective price we can pull off for everyone.

When the time comes...we think you guys will be quite excited about these pedals as they are really amazing for so many different applications.

Regards,

Eric
deity
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gotta admit I skimmed the OP, user error there i guess.

I'm already a fan of PC pedals, I'll definitely be giving these a try.


edit: i was also referring to the pc pedals from odyssey, animal, etc. not the total garbage ones that you see on walmart and entry level bikes.
 
Hesh To Steel

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I'm curious about the compound they've used for these. Especially the part about how it "skims off rocks easily". would be interested to cop a feel. I wonder of they're just super smooth or have a special finish on them.
 
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Nukeproof will be the only company in the UK selling them - they have a exclusivity deal with HT on the particular product, Deity may also have this deal in the US, im not sure......
 
DirtyMike

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These so called plastic pedals... they are the legit thing.
We have been selling them to the BMX kids for years, Been kind of nice to see the evolution of them from craptastic 10 dollar pedals to the 45-65 dollar and quality pedals.

The metal pins are new, not sure if I am on board with that or not. What I do know is that the nicer of the plastic or resin pedals hold up great to bmx use, grinding, sliding general abuse..ETC..... They also have great grip with the 510's even woth plastic pins... So I could only imagine the grip will be excellent with metal pins.
 
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good price, low weight..

if they grip even halfway decent = win.

and since its nylon/plastic, its not impossible if your handy to drill out a hole or two more for extra pins, where you want them :)
 
pnj

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yea, they forgot to add to the list of details "easily customizable, simply add moar pins where and when you like"

Any links/pics of the e13 pedals?
also, has anyone seen the Odyssey pedals? plastic w/ metal pins as well but the body is in two pieces.

I'm liking this new pedal idea. lighter, stronger but still grippy (hopefully).
 
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scottishmark said:
hhhmmmm straight out of the HT components catalogue then. All they appear to have done is change the material use to make these:

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O rly? What shape pedal do you suggest? Trapezoid? Triangle? How many other shapes beside square can a pedal be? I mean yeah, they look similar, but I doubt there is going to be a law suit here with the argument that "He stole my shape, and I want zillions of dollars!"
 
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pnj said:
also, has anyone seen the Odyssey pedals? plastic w/ metal pins as well but the body is in two pieces.
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those are the Cielinski's. It's an interesting design. The bolts that hold the 2 pedal body halves together also serve as the pins. The two halves of the body also act as a giant bushing around the pedal axle. cool design in the fact that if you hose one side you can replace just that half.
 
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TheTruth said:
O rly? What shape pedal do you suggest? Trapezoid? Triangle? How many other shapes beside square can a pedal be? I mean yeah, they look similar, but I doubt there is going to be a law suit here with the argument that "He stole my shape, and I want zillions of dollars!"
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will you please pull your panties out of your crack. Both sets of pedals are made by HT Components with whatever branding you want stuck on them. Hence the plastic ones being a slightly modified design with a different material, rarely the best way of doing things.

samdemo said:
Nukeproof will also be selling these pedals....with their branding of course.
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I bet they aren't $45 though!
 
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Hesh To Steel said:
I'm curious about the compound they've used for these. Especially the part about how it "skims off rocks easily". would be interested to cop a feel. I wonder of they're just super smooth or have a special finish on them.
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The material is a Nylon Fiber blend that does not get hung up on rocks because the material does not encounter the same friction you would get between aluminum and another surface such as rock, concrete, etc. No special finish...
 
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Pslide said:
I've been impressed with the stuff Deity is coming out with. Just put a Blacklabel bar on my bike. Will be trying these as well.
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Thanks for running the new Blacklabel Handlebar on your bike! We have been investing a lot into our handlebar line as it is our staple product we make, so you will probably like what we are up to come Interbike...
 
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I dig it. At first I closed the thread thinking "Oh good, more crap that costs too much" but the incorporation of an actual axle system and legitimate DH design (rather than awful BMXiness) really makes them decent...add in the fact that they are pretty damn cheap, and that's really piquing my interest. Will be interesting to hear the weights.

Only downside I can really think of is that I don't know the amount of friction/traction you get from shoe-pedal minus pins. In other words, would these be slippery if you removed the pins? If so, do the pins provide enough grip to make it negligible compared to alloy pedals?
 
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Sandwich said:
I dig it. At first I closed the thread thinking "Oh good, more crap that costs too much" but the incorporation of an actual axle system and legitimate DH design (rather than awful BMXiness) really makes them decent...add in the fact that they are pretty damn cheap, and that's really piquing my interest. Will be interesting to hear the weights.

Only downside I can really think of is that I don't know the amount of friction/traction you get from shoe-pedal minus pins. In other words, would these be slippery if you removed the pins? If so, do the pins provide enough grip to make it negligible compared to alloy pedals?
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Weight quoted in first post: 346g (NICE!)

A little less traction probably wouldn't be an altogether bad thing with my 5.10s...maybe I could reposition my foot then! Maybe keep a set of old metal pedals with long pins for muddy/rocky courses...
 
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Sandwich said:
I dig it. At first I closed the thread thinking "Oh good, more crap that costs too much" but the incorporation of an actual axle system and legitimate DH design (rather than awful BMXiness) really makes them decent...add in the fact that they are pretty damn cheap, and that's really piquing my interest. Will be interesting to hear the weights.
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Exactly! The bmx ones are fine for dj/park bikes but they are terrible for dh or anything else where you really need some traction. These are fantastic looking, and I will prob run them on my XC bike...(I run crampons for dh)...
 
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Sandwich said:
I dig it. At first I closed the thread thinking "Oh good, more crap that costs too much" but the incorporation of an actual axle system and legitimate DH design (rather than awful BMXiness) really makes them decent...add in the fact that they are pretty damn cheap, and that's really piquing my interest. Will be interesting to hear the weights.

Only downside I can really think of is that I don't know the amount of friction/traction you get from shoe-pedal minus pins. In other words, would these be slippery if you removed the pins? If so, do the pins provide enough grip to make it negligible compared to alloy pedals?
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Thanks for the post. The weight for a set is 346 grams which is quite stellar considering the Compound Pedals use cr-mo pins and a cr-mo spindle. Traction with the amount of pins used is actually amazing. The pins are sharper due to their smaller O.D. size (than standard pins), they are longer than what we run on our Decoy 2.0 Pedals, and the large 100mm x 105mm body holds the foot perfectly.

We have been involved with the design of the pedals since the very first mold concept. Initially, the first samples were made of polycarbonate which after testing them hard...could not take a sufficient beating when it came to direct impact. The poly carbonate would shatter. This also holds true for any translucent materials. The original mold and prototypes also used 10 cr-mo pins per side which had it's detriments:

a) It was overkill and sometimes...too many pins does not actually lead to better traction.

b) The multiple pin holes created added stress areas that may not be an issue to some people, but it was important that these pedals could take some strikes. They are in the end, a super thin pedal that we wanted to not only be used for dirt jumping or street, but especially DH.

So the two inner pins were replaced into being part of the mold (strengthening that critical junction to the spindle) and only two pins were lost in the end. From every ride we have tested them on...we have never found a loss for traction between both protos and this is true with using Vans for Dirt Jumping and 5.10s for DH.
 
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i don't know if 6 pins per side will cut it for DH.

I like the odyssey JCPC pedal design better (super tough; good traction with 8 metal pins), but they are a bit thick for DH.
 
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Thin pins will cut through rubber easier n all directions. But agreed, more pins doesn't always equate to more traction/friction. Less longer pins might be surfice, but with 2 being plastic, hmmm. Will be keen to see how they go. Will a TI axle upgrade be available if pedal bodies are replaceable.
 
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