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jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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I know this is not the "correct" thing to do, but i hate pedaling, and to top that, not not any good at it. On my 2.30 min DH races, i have 8-9 pedal strokes, thats it, i cant say im proud of it, but im probably the most lazy DH rider you will ever meet
this is exactly why you're not getting any faster. coasting isn't gonna win races.

then again, i pedal my arse off, and i'm still not winning races. :rofl:
 

qikss

Chimp
Apr 15, 2010
14
0
laguna
Norbar: Trust me I do...this bike rails everything ridiculously..

I'm liking your build, looks light. What does she weigh?
I havent weighed it with the tioga seat and ti spring yet....before with a devo and steel sping it was 36.8...so hopefully now its around 36 :)
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
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Warsaw :/
Full setup? I got mine to 36.3 with a very light ti spring, boxxer wc and ti hardware everywhere. I'm curious where you managed to go lighter than me.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
I also have the very light spring...and tubeless.
I'm not arguing your weight as our builds are similar, just curious where you've cought up to my boxxer wc, 250lbs too short progressive spring, twenty6 pedals and silly amounts of ti. I also run tubeless on 823s.
Is that rear tire Kenda Tubeless or regular Kenda setup for tubeless?
 

qikss

Chimp
Apr 15, 2010
14
0
laguna
its set up ghetto tubeless..

I was suspect of that scale, but weighed another one of my bikes that i know the weight of on it and it measured true. Im not a weight weanie at all but i was very happy when i first weighed it. The important thing is that the bike is sooo SOLID.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
its set up ghetto tubeless..

I was suspect of that scale, but weighed another one of my bikes that i know the weight of on it and it measured true. Im not a weight weanie at all but i was very happy when i first weighed it. The important thing is that the bike is sooo SOLID.
Again - I belive the weight. Just curious about the parts because maybe I can loose some weight too.
Though I agree it looks solid and the frame is bombproof. Far from the tin can movement.
 

DirtEveryDay

Turbo Monkey
Nov 24, 2003
2,692
4
Pacific North Wet
Mine. Feels MADE for the Vivid Air. Loving every second of it. It's not until you have the RIGHT bike for your preferred type of riding that you realize you've been on all the wrong bikes most of your life. This is the first no-gimicks single pivot I've owned since the first AS-X's hit the market. It's always been some form of a virtual pivot, parallel link, something or other. Was on a Banshee Legend last year, and this filled the void I was feeling. I like tight, twisty, jumpy trails. Feel like I just awoke from a coma.
 

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DirtEveryDay

Turbo Monkey
Nov 24, 2003
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Pacific North Wet
Clean... It's now a 1/2lb lighter thanks to pivotal post/saddle(love it!), and the fork lowers will soon match thanks to finally matching the paint color and some custom decals on the way..

Click the X apparently...
 
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toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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Australia
Mine. Feels MADE for the Vivid Air.
Did you run yours with the RC4 first? Or just go straight with the Vivid?

When I bought my TR450 I intended to fit my Vivid Coil into it pronto but a year down the track and I'm still loving the RC4 with the same settings I used after the initial 5 runs. My only gripe with my RC4 is that it slowly loses chamber pressure.
 

DirtEveryDay

Turbo Monkey
Nov 24, 2003
2,692
4
Pacific North Wet
Only with the Vivid Air. Not really a fair comparison, as they were entirely different bikes, but I had an RC4 on my Socom for a bit and another on my Legend. As far as the SHOCK itself feels...I like the Vivid Air much more. This ain't no XC shock! But I'm also biased as i've always liked air shocks, if not simply for their infinately adjustable spring rate! I HATE not getting the spring rate right the first time, and I HATE that Ti springs are retarded $$$.

One thing about the Vivid Air though, I don't think anyone over 200 is going to be happy with it...? Just kind of a rough assessment, but I'm 170lbs, I'm running 205psi in the shock and I'm STILL sitting at 35%-38% sag. I want to get up into the 33%-35% range, just kinda letting the shock break in yet..
But it FEELS fantastic. When I first got on it and just cruised down the hill before dropping in it felt a bit wallowy and possibly dead, then I boosted er and pumped into my run and seriously squealed like a 13 year old girl I was so surprised! Thing just launched and off I went! It's NOTHING to just pump, lift and transfer to a line 3 feet to my left. I mean, it's not really usually a big deal, it's just THAT much easier now. Could be the bike too, though...
Either way, I'm very happy right now!
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,479
4,719
Australia
I think the TR450 is relatively poppy with any shock. I don't really have to think twice about line changes or even just unweighting for rough sections. One of the things that sold me on the TR450 is the shock clearance it has. After coming off a Sunday and a Turner DHR I was getting annoyed with shock clearance issues. Will get around to trying some more shocks in it soon.
 

DirtEveryDay

Turbo Monkey
Nov 24, 2003
2,692
4
Pacific North Wet
Oh dude...wait till you see the Vivid Air stuffed in it then! So much for shock clearance! It literally BARELY fits. I had to release all the psi and then squash it closed so I could get the shock out of the front mount so I could slip my brake/derailleur lines in... If the shock moves out of position at all up or down it binds on the linkage. It's TIGHT. But NO rubbing or anything when in place!
 

nmpearson

Monkey
Dec 30, 2006
213
8
I just had to pull the vivid air off my TR450. i'm 230 and even at 280psi i was running through about 40% of travel. i talked to sram about it and they really had no idea why it wasn't stiffening up. I ran one on a bottlerocket and it was so amazing. I loved it...so i was kinda depressed it wasn't working. i have a double barrel coming, so it will be a fun shock to try out. i loved the rc4 on the TR450 i had last year. It was so amazingly poppy and playful for a DH race bike. just mega fun
 

Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
3,208
581
Durham, NC
Here's my new ride for the year. I wasn't planning on a new DH bike but fortune smiled on me and I am super stoked. One ride on it just jumping and goofing off, but it feels like it is going to be killer. 38.47lbs as shown with full Saint and a steel spring.

 

FCLinder

Turbo Monkey
Mar 6, 2002
4,402
0
Greenville, South Carolina
Here's my new ride for the year. I wasn't planning on a new DH bike but fortune smiled on me and I am super stoked. One ride on it just jumping and goofing off, but it feels like it is going to be killer. 38.47lbs as shown with full Saint and a steel spring.

For some reason I knew you would be getting one of these!!!!!:thumb:

Cecil
 

korean_boy

Chimp
May 26, 2007
9
0
Poland


My 2011 V10 carbon

Boxxer WC 2010
Fox RC4 450 Ti spring
Hope Pro2/ DT Comp / ZTR FLOW / Maxxis
Hope tech V2
Dura Ace 11-21 cassette and derailleur
XTR shifter
Atlas FR cranks 38t/ Gamut P40/ Shimano DX SPD
Sunline stem/ Boobar bars/ Lizard Skin grips/ Angleset Headset
SDG seatpost and I FLY saddle
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
depends on where he is riding, If hes rippin the fire road :rofl: yes it is to high.

- awesome bike what the frame/complete weigh in at?
Frame claimed weight is 3.8kg as per our local distro. 17.4kg for the 720 (lower spec) complete.
 

yuroshek

Turbo Monkey
Jun 26, 2007
2,438
0
Arizona!
Your funny numbers mean nothing to us ignorant Americans...
you better start talking head angles or you'll lose us;)
about 8.3 pounds for the frame and 38.3 as a complete.

swap out that steel spring and put a direct mount stem on there and be under 38 no problem.