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HOPE integrated stem crown Fox 40

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Chimp
Dec 11, 2007
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I don't have a hope integrated stem. but I do have a chunked one for my 11' Marzocchi evo. Light, strong and very similar than the Hope. Try checking out chunked.com.au for info. Couldn't be happier with mine.
 

steelewheels

Monkey
Oct 26, 2001
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I had one on my demo 8 last year and on my new operator. plenty of clearance on both. One has a 1.5 and the other a tapered. stiff as hell and worth the money in my books.
 

jrewing

Monkey
Aug 22, 2010
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Maydena Oz
I don't have a hope integrated stem. but I do have a chunked one for my 11' Marzocchi evo. Light, strong and very similar than the Hope. Try checking out chunked.com.au for info. Couldn't be happier with mine.
www.chunked.com.au

Yeah happy with mine. Ran a 5mm spacer under it on the M9 as it touched the pinchbolt. No fuss and suited as it can get the front real low.
Works out lighter than Hope's one.
 

jrewing

Monkey
Aug 22, 2010
236
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Maydena Oz
Super low front ends = boring trend

Thanks for the heads-up. What colours are hot off the runway this DH season..
 
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Huck Banzai

Turbo Monkey
May 8, 2005
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Super low front ends = boring trend

Thanks for the heads-up. What colours are hot off the runway this DH season..
Mauve, Cyan and Burn't Ochre.

Im collecting all the old crowns and stems so I can get boatloads of rich off you mooks next year. Dropped crowns abound with riser bars - no one seems to be paying attention.

16" Chainstays are the sheezy.
 
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slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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I was fondling these in my lbs the other day. very tempting. very very tempting indeed. But I've got to wonder, where does the stress go if I nose case a drop or a gap? I've had that problem before, and noticed that my stem had slipped. But with this setup, what would take the abuse? the bars? the stanchions? the other crown? what would I need to watch for signs of failure? these are honest questions, I'm not throwing the hate around...
 

Udi

RM Chief Ornithologist
Mar 14, 2005
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How much lighter is this than say, a stock 40 crown with point one stem?
 

zdubyadubya

Turbo Monkey
Apr 13, 2008
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Super low front ends = boring trend.
How much lighter is this than say, a stock 40 crown with point one stem?

Reason for the question is that the Fox 40 I have in my possession, the top crown doesn't have holes for a direct mount stem. Trying to kill two birds with one stone. Fox wants too much money for a new top crown with drilled/tapped DM holes.
 

armada

Monkey
Aug 27, 2010
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so what is the purpose of the whole setup? it isnt lower than a normal dm stem, isnt lighter, jsut the bling? :D
 

Udi

RM Chief Ornithologist
Mar 14, 2005
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Reason for the question is that the Fox 40 I have in my possession, the top crown doesn't have holes for a direct mount stem. Trying to kill two birds with one stone. Fox wants too much money for a new top crown with drilled/tapped DM holes.
Oh, my question was actually a serious one haha!

If I were in your position I'd buy one. Just wondering if there is any benefit for someone who already has a DM crown and light stem aside from height.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Oh, my question was actually a serious one haha!

If I were in your position I'd buy one. Just wondering if there is any benefit for someone who already has a DM crown and light stem aside from height.
I remember someone counting that up and the combo is a bit like having an around 100g stem. Though I'm yet to know a <130g stem that inspires my confidence.

As for the low front end - I used it before the whole fashion started and really put it to the test of how low you can go. It's a usefull trend. For bar height adjustment on these rare really steep trails I use spacers. It may look lame but it gives me options of runing it both high and low. Only once I wanted high.
 

DIRTWRKS

Monkey
Aug 13, 2003
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Canada EH !
Reason for the question is that the Fox 40 I have in my possession, the top crown doesn't have holes for a direct mount stem. Trying to kill two birds with one stone. Fox wants too much money for a new top crown with drilled/tapped DM holes.
There are aftermarket top crowns for the 40 that are cheaper, I think I might
still have one kicking around here, drop me a PM if you are interested.
 

al-irl

Turbo Monkey
Dec 9, 2004
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tried out a mates and it deffo feels stiffer than the boxxer crown and point 1 combo that i run.
 

Jason4

Monkey
Aug 27, 2008
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Bellingham
so what is the purpose of the whole setup? it isnt lower than a normal dm stem, isnt lighter, jsut the bling? :D
Umm...it is lower than most normal DM stems, it is lighter than most DM stems, it is stiffer than most DM stems...I guess it's just bling.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
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Warsaw :/
Umm...it is lower than most normal DM stems, it is lighter than most DM stems, it is stiffer than most DM stems...I guess it's just bling.
Usually you have to choose between light and durable/stiff. Not here. What is so hard to understand? It's a light stem for hacks and heavy people.
 

sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
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not in Whistler anymore :/
Oh, my question was actually a serious one haha!

If I were in your position I'd buy one. Just wondering if there is any benefit for someone who already has a DM crown and light stem aside from height.
cant speak for the 40, but my 888 ti crown with stem is at 336g, the chunked crown i ordered is supposed to be 225g, so i save 111g :weee:
 

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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ACT Australia
I agree, super low front ends are lame.
There's a point where too low is not helpfull.
But a Chunked crown(not sure about Hope)is lighter than a PO1NT set up for Boxxers, not sure about 40s. But with spacers and steerer tube to get it back up to the bar height of the PO1NT set up, it might be the same weight, and that's where I'd run it, or with higher rise bars, but same effect of more weight.
So in short, do it if you have 888s, or non direct mount crowns. IMO.
No pros run there bars as low as a Hope crown without spacers, and that's not a forced by sponsors choice like most things stopping you from using pros as an example for.
It's all to do with BB and bar height relation. Not just bar height. Yes BBs are getting lower, but not that low.
 

steelewheels

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Oct 26, 2001
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I have had the light weight dm stems and they kinda scare me. Maybe its just my history with them but, the overall design from Hope is top notch! Its stiff, light, lil'adjust with the height, sexy, less bolts, ti bolts X6. If it fits you and your ride its a great option.
 

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sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
4,882
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not in Whistler anymore :/
I agree, super low front ends are lame.
There's a point where too low is not helpfull.
But a Chunked crown(not sure about Hope)is lighter than a PO1NT set up for Boxxers, not sure about 40s. But with spacers and steerer tube to get it back up to the bar height of the PO1NT set up, it might be the same weight, and that's where I'd run it, or with higher rise bars, but same effect of more weight.
So in short, do it if you have 888s, or non direct mount crowns. IMO.
No pros run there bars as low as a Hope crown without spacers, and that's not a forced by sponsors choice like most things stopping you from using pros as an example for.
It's all to do with BB and bar height relation. Not just bar height. Yes BBs are getting lower, but not that low.
i also doing it because the of the straight crown, the curved 888 crown touches the top tube, need some spacers else.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,289
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Ottawa, Canada
I was fondling these in my lbs the other day. very tempting. very very tempting indeed. But I've got to wonder, where does the stress go if I nose case a drop or a gap? I've had that problem before, and noticed that my stem had slipped. But with this setup, what would take the abuse? the bars? the stanchions? the other crown? what would I need to watch for signs of failure? these are honest questions, I'm not throwing the hate around...
I'm re-quoting my own question caus' I'd really like to know where the forces go with this type of setup... :confused:
 

Slater

Monkey
Oct 10, 2007
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How would it be any different than with a normal direct mount stem? My DM stem right now sure isn't going to move/slip if I nose case anything.
 

Huck Banzai

Turbo Monkey
May 8, 2005
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Yeah no ****. Like that stupid wide ass handle bar trend that didn't die 3 years ago...or 2 years ago..or last year...but this year. This year will be the year that the dumb trend dies. Thank God.
Actually I see alot of people that started at 31+ rolled back to ~29ish. Care to disagree?

Slammed crowns or flat bars in the same light - more people are coming to their senses and talking the trend(s) down, eg:

&#8206;"Anyone running FLAT BARS in downhill is going no where except back to squidville were you were born! Or for the next lap on the xc trail? Its a fact, punch yourself in the face and wake up, turn the heavy metal up untill your eyes bleed and ears explode." -- Chris Kovarik.

Not saying each doesnt have its place, some applications, but 5'6'" - 6'2" yet running same front end height and width is just brilliant. (And the dropped crowns with riser bars...)


That was barely even clever.
 
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