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5150dhbiker

Turbo Monkey
Nov 5, 2007
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Santa Barbara, CA
Ok, well racing DH is a HUGE passion of mine and something that I would reccomend to just about anyone. You travel, meet awesome people, make new friends, stay in shape, come home with cool photos/trophies.

For those of you that don't race I totally reccomend trying at least one race. Riding for fun is cool too but the thrill you get from racing the clock just can't be beat!

Anyways, on that note it's sad to say that I'm just about done racing :( It's time for me to "grow up" and start a career. Maybe after I actually have a decent job (and NOT with Best Buy) I'll start traveling to races again. I told myself this year that I was cutting back my racing to the Fontana Winter Series, PRO GRT #1 (washington), Sea Otter, MSC in Angel Fire, National Champs, and an MSC race in Keystone. Well, I've been cutting back even more and only made 2/5 winter series races, skipping the first GRT and Sea Otter :(

It's REALLY hard for me to see all my friends go out racing but know it's for the better right now. Like I said...if you have the chance DO IT...it changed my life!

Only thing I won't miss from racing are the crashes...and I'm good at those!!

Snowmass...race run and about 30sec. before pain...


Later on in my race run...


Race run crash was actually happening! If he took the photo about 1/8th of a second later I was on the ground.


Race run crash at the National Champs (same corner gwinn crashed in during seeding). Fractured my ribs..


And of course...not a race but the photo that put me in a magazine...and was just called and told it's going to be in another one as well, ughhh.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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you'll be back. I have a career and do the 9-5 (HA!) desk-ish job, but I still manage to race. Granted I don't do as many races as I want, but still manage to hit enough to get my kicks.
 

Orvan

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Mar 5, 2002
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Welcome to Life, Mike.
There used to be a time I recall when sleeping in a closet or beside the night stand in a one bedroom hotel room with 9 of your racing buds and cronies was fun. When driving home from races means, stopping at a few ride spots in between with a day or two more to burn. Now, I want my showers, continental breakfast and I want my effing space, laptop with wifi and away from everyone else's stinky armor and two day old jerseys. Wait until you get a kid. :)

Coming to woodward this weekend (not that there really is a reason to)?
 

yuroshek

Turbo Monkey
Jun 26, 2007
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Arizona!
Mike, I remember racing you few years ago at Fontana, I believe you were always the rider right behind me? not sure but I remember you, I feel your pain man. Ive had some hard crashes in the past few years but thats not whats slowing you down, your like me... Money is slowing you down right? Well Im very excited because I just recently signed with a very good company and will actually have money to race and go on ride-vacations :weee:

Do your thing, get a job you LOVE and in the mean time keep ripping and remember why you ride a bike. You ride for the fun of it, the freedom, the feeling of railing a turn or boosting a new kicker. This is what I did last year since I didnt have much money and was hurt a lot. I just rode a ton of XC, road and DH but didnt race much. I had a freakin blast and even met my current girlfriend out riding on the mountain :thumb:

Hang in there bud itll come around!
 

yuroshek

Turbo Monkey
Jun 26, 2007
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Arizona!
You are incredibly lucky to have so many professional photos of you eating sh*t so spectacularly. *tips hat*
second that! at least you can prove your "sh!t eatting skills" :D p.s. I think its the helmet, you know what... I know its the helmet. Get the new D3 and you will be so careful not to scratch it you wont ever crash!!!
 

gemini2k

Turbo Monkey
Jul 31, 2005
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San Francisco
second that! at least you can prove your "sh!t eatting skills" :D p.s. I think its the helmet, you know what... I know its the helmet. Get the new D3 and you will be so careful not to scratch it you wont ever crash!!!
Wurd. Except for that D3 part. Get a real moto helmet. Also, you should probably not still be wearing a helmet you've gotten 3 concussions in.
 

johnnypop

Chimp
Aug 24, 2006
86
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San Jose/Santa Barbara
Pack that dirty truck up and come riding at Hollister... I've got a futon you can crash on.

I've dropped racing off my schedule this year too, Sea Otter is a joke, and all other USAC races worth any time are out of state. I'm going to race the Northstar series just to have some fun because I'll be up there every weekend possible this summer.
 
Jan 8, 2007
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Ladera Ranch
5150dhbiker I think I used to watch you practice at Fontana. ....There is something about DH racing that is completely addicting. Why else would I sit in a hot as hell van with a bunch of smelly dudes in the summer in Fontana? I only raced 2.5 seasons. The second year 2006, I went nuts and raced ALL the Fontana's, Sonoma, Bryant head, And Santa Barbara. I could not get enough. 2007 left me with a nasty ankle break, and my DH skills never really came back as good.While I do miss competition, I just changed my focus to business and less bone breaking hobbies, and trail riding. Still, hitting Mammoth once a year brings all the joy back and reminds me how to go fast.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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Ottawa, Canada
I don't understand why the search for a job would hold you back from racing? unless it's the lack of cash. this is the time in your life you have the greatest amount of freedom. I can honestly say, now that I have a kid, that no job would ever have prevented me from riding (and I should have been racing back then). Still, now that I have a job, and a family, I'm looking at doing some local races caus' they're so dang fun...
 

5150dhbiker

Turbo Monkey
Nov 5, 2007
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Santa Barbara, CA
I don't understand why the search for a job would hold you back from racing? unless it's the lack of cash. this is the time in your life you have the greatest amount of freedom. I can honestly say, now that I have a kid, that no job would ever have prevented me from riding (and I should have been racing back then). Still, now that I have a job, and a family, I'm looking at doing some local races caus' they're so dang fun...
Well...it's not really the money it's the commitment I have to make for the job I want. I'm trying to become an airline pilot and that takes TONS of time and a lot of money...so it's kind of both.

John, I'll ride Hollister soon! Just got my carb rebuilt and some other things done to the bike!

Kind of funny how many of you have seen me in Fontoilet :P I'd have to say that's the one race I go to and never really try haha. I might be racing the SRC race in Woodward though :D


And for those that asked...that last photo was not at a race it was on Tunnel Trail up here in SB. Didn't get hurt other then a massive headache but I learned a good lesson. If you can't drift like Sam Hill, you probably should not try a "sam hill drift" that drops into a sketchy line...
Only good that photo did was get me POD on Pinkbike and a full page shot in the 2010 December issue of Outdoor Magazine.
 
what are your goals in life? it can range anywhere from sitting around smoking weed to being a rocket scientist. and that's just professionally. do you eventually want a family? kids?

kinda big questions to ponder, and exact answers aren't necessary, but as you get into college, probably things to at least think about.

if you're honest with yourself, you're probably not gonna be racing DH for a livelihood (ie. Pro). you can still love it, go fast, get stoked from racing/riding. but it's not likely in direct line to those life goals that you may/may not have thought about.

i have a job (that i enjoy) and a good family (that i also enjoy) and riding dh probably sits just behind my job in terms of importance. but due to my job and family, i know it is impossible for me to go racing every weekend. you just have to budget your time / money. i go to one race each season that is truly a road trip (>5hr drive) and that's it, the rest are local/regional races that are doable for a day trip. are there races that i really want to go to but can't? you betcha, but that's just the way it is, based on how i value what's important in my life.

i used to race expert/cat 1, took a 4 yr break, due to school. came back and now racing cat 2. goals are to get back to being competitive in cat 1 again. but i am more cognizant of consequences in my riding. i simply don't go mach stupid in techical/rocky gnar anymore, or jump as big gaps as i used to, i still attack, but there's a measure of reserve that i hold back. is it fear? maybe, but i need to stay healthy (sans broken bones) for my job and my family. i still derive a great deal of fun from riding fast, but i don't throw caution into the wind.

everyone level of committment is different, but as one matures that SHOULD and WILL change. unless of course, you are PRO or have a cushy trust fund.
 

EM-EFER

Monkey
May 29, 2007
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I also had to make the same decision between racing as a hobby VS. profession. I realized I don't have what it takes to be a top pro nor have the time to invest in training. I put that same amount of effort into my career as I did racing and have made something of myself. I still race as a hobby, ride DH every other weekend and XC 2-3 times a week.

You can enjoy racing after you achieve your goal of becoming a pilot.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,337
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Ottawa, Canada
Well...it's not really the money it's the commitment I have to make for the job I want. I'm trying to become an airline pilot and that takes TONS of time and a lot of money...so it's kind of both.
aaaaah, gotcha. Good luck with that. I have a buddy doing the same thing. we didn't end up riding much last year. If there was good weather, he was up logging hours. If there wasn't good weather... well, we weren't riding! Now he's got a new baby, so I don't know if I'll ever ride with him again :rolleyes:
 

waterdogs

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
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Upstate SC
My brother doesn't ride.. hed' rather be in his boat fishing or scuba diving, but he's been an airline pilot for 13 years (was hired as the youngest pilot at Continental at the time). My point for posting...... dude, he's got all kinds of time off. I know everyone and airline is different, he's been flying International for the past 5 or so years.... at any given time he's got up to two weeks off. He's on straight for 4 or 5 days and he's off. Now putting this in perspective, he's been there a while and he had to pay his dues. I think giving up is a strong phrase to use. Don't give up, do what you have to up front, then you'll slowly be back into it. You obviously aren't swayed by gnarly crashes (great pics BTW), so that means your passionate about it..... we need to keep doing those things we are passionate about.

Either way, Good Luck!
 
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wood booger

Monkey
Jul 16, 2008
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the land of cheap beer
If riding/racing is important to you, find a job that supports it. Either something in the cycling industry, or something with a more open schedule and less time commitment.

Training to become a professional pilot won't give you much time for riding in the next 5+ years. It takes serious commitment.

But if you really love flying, then go that route. Follow your passion.
 

intensified

Monkey
Mar 31, 2004
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Canton,Ma
"I wanna be an airplane pilot"-breakfast club

That is shooting for the stars, helicopters are pretty cool to. I always assumed the pilots were from a military background on the airlines?

Not a great economy, if you follow a path and go for the training you can be a pro and do what you know in any field.

We dont' see too many medical doctors racing in the dh class (I knew of one girl getting ready for pre med school), lots of smart peeps though with all kinds of excellent backgrounds.

Maybe another form of biking (tons of options,lots have you gone only sunday) would be better during your transition to flight school.
 

DHDreams

Chimp
May 11, 2008
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Not to derail, but it would be interesting to know (through some sort of poll) what most people who race/ride/enjoy DH do for a living. I am, and know many, engineers who ride and race. So, I guess that would be my assumption for what the majority would be. Who knows...

Yeah, I had to take about 10 years off due to a new and growing family. Kids take a lot of time and money! Thankfully, my wife gave me the green light to get back into the sport that I love. I've had some really bad crashes, which resulted in time off work, but that's just part of the game and the chances I'm willing to take for that rush. I'm having fun! And, that's why I do it. When the day comes that I'm not having fun, that's when I'll take a break or just quit altogether. Life is too short to not enjoy it. I just don't want to have too many of those stories that start out, "I wish I would have done this or that". A life of no regrets.
 

thom9719

Turbo Monkey
Jul 25, 2005
1,104
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In the Northwest.
Not to derail, but it would be interesting to know (through some sort of poll) what most people who race/ride/enjoy DH do for a living. I am, and know many, engineers who ride and race. So, I guess that would be my assumption for what the majority would be. Who knows...
40 hours a week as a Mechanical Engineer, 23 races on the calendar for this season. I litterally got back to the airport this morning and went straight to work. It involves a lot of driving through the night, but it's a fun sacrifice

-KT
 

Eastern States Cup

Turbo Monkey
Feb 29, 2008
2,465
2
East Coast
I'm having fun! And, that's why I do it. When the day comes that I'm not having fun, that's when I'll take a break or just quit altogether. Life is too short to not enjoy it. I just don't want to have too many of those stories that start out, "I wish I would have done this or that". A life of no regrets.
:thumb:
 
Not to derail, but it would be interesting to know (through some sort of poll) what most people who race/ride/enjoy DH do for a living. I am, and know many, engineers who ride and race. So, I guess that would be my assumption for what the majority would be. Who knows...

I am a small business owner & operator.... I have a computer consulting business which keeps me busy... I am also a divorced father who shares custody of two kids which I have every other week... Luckily for me, I'm able to schedule clients as I please... I usually end up cramming a whole weeks worth of work into 3-4 days... so I'm still able to race between 14-20 races per season... Personally, I think we all need an outlet... With careful planning and organization, I think you can still have a successful career, and still be able to have the fun hobbies that you need to stay sane!!! It just takes some good planning :D
 

5150dhbiker

Turbo Monkey
Nov 5, 2007
1,200
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Santa Barbara, CA
"I wanna be an airplane pilot"-breakfast club

That is shooting for the stars, helicopters are pretty cool to. I always assumed the pilots were from a military background on the airlines?

Haha, nope. A lot of airline pilots started the way I am doing things...through general aviation. My dad has been with United for 35 years and also trains me in all his free time.

From what I can tell, I'll be ready for a career at the perfect time. It's not a forecast but a fact that in 2.5 years there will be an airline pilot being forced to retire every 20min. in the US. Right now a lot of captains and even co-pilots are on the edge of the legal limits to retiring (like my dad...he's forced to retire next October). So ya, there is going to be a massive need for pilots very very soon.

It's not that I'm completely "giving up" on racing...I'll still do it occasionally but have to drastically cut back or quit for a while until I have a career established.

Speaking of racing...I've made the executive decision that I'm going to be racing at Woodward this weekend since I had to skip the first Pro GRT :D