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norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
Why would I hate mine? I like them even after they broke my finger. You dont like their feel?
 

Freeridin'

Monkey
Oct 23, 2006
316
2
Colorado
Notorious for leaks from the master cylinder. Furthermore, Shimano offers no seal/ rebuild kit.

Just got mine warrantied and yes, I still love them.
 

p-spec

Turbo Monkey
May 2, 2004
1,278
1
quebec
no leaks,great performance,retarded power love the feel too.

But/

even with the ajuster all the way out,I still feel my lever goes to far in.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,288
5,028
Ottawa, Canada
no leaks,great performance,retarded power love the feel too.

But/

even with the ajuster all the way out,I still feel my lever goes to far in.
ah yes. gotcha. the bite point adjustment does nothing, so I can't really get the lever as close to the bar as I'd like. I still like the shape of their lever.
 

p-spec

Turbo Monkey
May 2, 2004
1,278
1
quebec
ah yes. gotcha. the bite point adjustment does nothing, so I can't really get the lever as close to the bar as I'd like. I still like the shape of their lever.
Really,if I have mine all the way in ( opposite of how I run ) my lever strait up bottoms on my bar,I've considered maybe they need a bleed ??? but they are solid " all the way out "


I also like how the blade feels to.
 

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
2,511
29
ACT Australia
I've got XTRs on the way(only because my Formula Ones didn't sit well with Alfine shifter), if they're not powerful enough, I'll throw a Saint front caliper on.
I wonder what the next generation Saints will be like. XTR short lever, older better XTR pivot location? Theoreticly the same caliper with new ceramic pistons. Would be good if they kept the same pads.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ADD PAD ADJUST.
 

p-spec

Turbo Monkey
May 2, 2004
1,278
1
quebec
You gotta re-think your lines with these brakes.

Ironicly,in a certain section today,I got more power !? I was on,and my lever got harder,I even ajusted my lever less,2 3 rides latter re ajusted to regular mode.

I like em,just I get weird in-consistancies like other people have noticed and braught up.
 

sundaydoug

Monkey
Jun 8, 2009
609
271
I like em,just I get weird in-consistancies like other people have noticed and braught up.
You might have a kink in one of your lines. Kinks will crimp the outer brake housing leading to inconsistent fluid pressure, which is why you might be getting power and then losing it (or vice versa). If you've already re-bled them (which is super, super easy), try throwing new lines on. That along with a new set of pads should fix the issue.
 
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infamous24

Chimp
Oct 28, 2008
32
0
How long do the pads take to bed in? I did about 10 hard stops from 30 mph and have been on 2 rides but I'm still not impressed with the power. I had Elixir CR's before and these don't seem to be much stronger.
 

MmmBones

Monkey
May 8, 2011
272
84
Porkland, OR
It's all about XTR trail levers with Saint calipers now. I'm in love with my XTR trail brakes. They have enough power for me but I don't win World Cups.
 

p-spec

Turbo Monkey
May 2, 2004
1,278
1
quebec
My brake housing is LONG,and un-cut.

Could it be bouncing and causing this,wich I doupt cause its not getting kinked.

I could need pads and maybe a rotor cause i tuched one like twice for a millisecond getting my wheel off/on wich made me all sourpuss.

Xtr lever on saint ???

I dont even wana know how much a lever is...
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
You gotta re-think your lines with these brakes.

Ironicly,in a certain section today,I got more power !? I was on,and my lever got harder,I even ajusted my lever less,2 3 rides latter re ajusted to regular mode.

I like em,just I get weird in-consistancies like other people have noticed and braught up.
Its better than my old oros. The differances are MUCH smaller.
 

sundaydoug

Monkey
Jun 8, 2009
609
271
How long do the pads take to bed in? I did about 10 hard stops from 30 mph and have been on 2 rides but I'm still not impressed with the power. I had Elixir CR's before and these don't seem to be much stronger.
A few 5-6 minute DH runs should wear new pads in sufficiently.
 

sundaydoug

Monkey
Jun 8, 2009
609
271
My brake housing is LONG,and un-cut.

Could it be bouncing and causing this,wich I doupt cause its not getting kinked.

I could need pads and maybe a rotor cause i tuched one like twice for a millisecond getting my wheel off/on wich made me all sourpuss.

Xtr lever on saint ???

I dont even wana know how much a lever is...
Take your wheel off and look at the pads. If they're down to the metal (or almost) then it's definitely time for new pads. If there are no issues with your lines then new pads and a proper bleed will have your brakes feeling great again. I put new pads in and bleed my saints at the beginning of every season and the difference is significant.
 

Uncle Cliffy

Turbo Monkey
Jan 28, 2008
4,490
42
Southern Oregon
Gwin's XTR levers used with Saint calipers
Well, I guess we can also assume Gwin's running 10 speed as well? I have that shifter on my trail bike and it's genius. It's made me want to revert back to Shimano on my big bike for how good it feels compared to even the 9 speed stuff...
 

sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
4,881
2,132
not in Whistler anymore :/

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
2,511
29
ACT Australia
Someone try and test that for us. Im very tempted to go that way.
XTR lever+Saint caliper?
It's been done buy guys on here already hasn't it? I thought there was a thread on here saying it all systems go. Well from the pics it is.
Can anyone tell what hose is being used in the other photoof Gwins brakes of the bike. There's writing to be seen on the hose. Not sure if the writting's different between XTR hoses and Saints.
Does the other XTR lever(not the Trail), have smaller plunger or something?
 
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juanbeegas

Monkey
May 6, 2008
355
2
Singapore
Most Shimano levers feel like crap and are kinda long, but the new XTR Trail levers are excellent. After trying them on a buddy's ride, I just can't help, but be reminded of how ****ty my XT levers feel.
My only dilemma right now is whether I should spend the money on upgrading my levers(cheap), or upgrade my entire brakeset to the new XTR Trails(more money than I'm willing to spend, but I also get new toys, which is always a good thing).
 

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
2,511
29
ACT Australia
I'm curious to know what the new XTR levers feel like with the older two pot calipers. Could be a cheap upgrade for many old brakes. I must have at least a few of those calipers still.
 

infamous24

Chimp
Oct 28, 2008
32
0
Just got a brand new set of Saint M810 brakes and the front lever is already leaking. I'm assuming it's the master cylinder seal that I've read about. After every ride there is some oil on the lever near the lever body.
 

demo 9

Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
46
north jersey
Just got a brand new set of Saint M810 brakes and the front lever is already leaking. I'm assuming it's the master cylinder seal that I've read about. After every ride there is some oil on the lever near the lever body.
If it leaks, but still works, i would assume its from assembly or shipping, if a brake is loosing fluid continuously, i would assume you would know it right away, the lever would come in, or you would need to bleed it.