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Ian Collins

Ian Collins

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i'm currently running 1 X 9 on my trail bike, and since most of the people on this forum run one gear up front this would be the appropriate place to ask this question....

i want to switch to 1 X 10 so i can run the 11-36T cassette and get a little more range out of my setup....can i run the mid cage SRAM derailleur or do i have to run the long cage?? i'd rather not have that giant goonish apparatus on the ass end of my bike if i can avoid it....anyone else running a setup like this?
 
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TWeerts

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the cage length has more to do with the # of chainrings ups front. you could get away with a short cage if you want. if im not mistaken; sram says you can run a 36t cassette on all of their dérailleurs.
 
Ian Collins

Ian Collins

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TWeerts said:
the cage length has more to do with the # of chainrings ups front. you could get away with a short cage if you want. if im not mistaken; sram says you can run a 36t cassette on all of their dérailleurs.
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yeah, it has more to do with chainwrap than anything, i just thought since 36 is a new size, i should check before jumping the gun....
 
HAB

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
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You could swap an 11 and 12t cogs in place of the 12 and 13 on there, yes. No Sram offering yet that I'm aware of, but I like Shimano cassettes better anyway. Only issue is, last I checked Shimano didn't make a high end 36t 9 speed cassette so the one they do make is a boat anchor. If nothing else it's maybe worth trying to see if you like the gear range before dropping the coin on 10s. Or you could be less of a weight weenie than me and not give a ****.
 
stoney

stoney

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The X0 10-sp rear der does NOT work with a 9-sp setup. Just an fyi.
 
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TWeerts

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The Joker said:
The X0 10-sp rear der does NOT work with a 9-sp setup. Just an fyi.
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can you elaborate? i cant see why it wouldnt...its not like the total distane it has to go towards the wheel and away from the bike is different. in other words, the 1st and 10/9 gear are in the same places...
 
Dogboy

Dogboy

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TWeerts said:
can you elaborate? i cant see why it wouldnt...its not like the total distane it has to go towards the wheel and away from the bike is different. in other words, the 1st and 10/9 gear are in the same places...
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Compatibility 10-speed only; 36 tooth
^^^From the SRAM website. Probably has to do with the "Exact Actuation" cable pull ratio.
 
Ian Collins

Ian Collins

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HAB said:
You could swap an 11 and 12t cogs in place of the 12 and 13 on there, yes. No Sram offering yet that I'm aware of, but I like Shimano cassettes better anyway. Only issue is, last I checked Shimano didn't make a high end 36t 9 speed cassette so the one they do make is a boat anchor. If nothing else it's maybe worth trying to see if you like the gear range before dropping the coin on 10s. Or you could be less of a weight weenie than me and not give a ****.
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good call...that'll give me a low cost way of tinkering around...thanks man!
 
Ian Collins

Ian Collins

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So speaking of finding things out the hard way, i swapped out my 11-34T shimano cassette for a 12-36T shimano, hoping i take the 11T from my old cassette and put it on the new cassette...unfortunately you can't....the 12T is wider and won't swap over....also, the 14-36 is pinned together as one block, so i can't swap the 13T from my other casstte over either....

pretty bummed to say the least....oh well, i guess i learned the hard way
 
HAB

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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Wait what?


The 12 from the 36 or the 34 is wider? And as far as the pinned together thing, the 36 goes 12-13-14-stuff yeah? Or is it just 12-14? Got pics? I made this work on a customer's bike at some point, I just forget exactly what I did.
 
syadasti

syadasti

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Action Tec has made wide range Ti cassettes for a while though I doubt they shift as well as Shimano or SRAM:

Action Tec's Titanium cassettes are unique in the industry.

Use this to create a 2x9 or 1x9 drivetrain with a wide range of gears. 3x9 not recommended
Stronger and more durable than steel cogs unlike some competing Ti cogs
“Shark Tooth” design. Shark teeth that result from wear on steel rings is a bad thing. But this is a different shark tooth shape which helps shifting
Eliminates the need for shift ramps so cogs shift equally well anywhere in the rotation and are not prone to ghost shifts
Tips are pointed not flat, so the chain cannot ride the flat surfaces and delay a shift. Only Ti can maintain such a shape
Cogs are separate from each other, allowing custom gearing and easy maintenance
Includes non-floating upper pulley, Ti prep and a shim
Integrated 11 tooth cog/lockring
Handmade in the USA
Choose from 11 through 19 then 21 23 24 25 27 28 30 32 34 36 38 39
Available in 8 and 9 speed clusters with 36, 38, or 39T big cogs
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HAB

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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They're also fvcking expensive.


More options is rarely a bad thing though.


I think I'm just going to keep riding my current drivetrain (32t ring, 11-32 cassette) on my Spitfire until it dies then go 34t ring with an 11-36 10s setup. Just bought new wheels for the Spitty and a CCDB for my DH bike though so no more bikey money for a bit.
 
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