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Good example video clip for an "environmentally friendly" DH trail

Wa-Aw

Wa-Aw

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Jul 30, 2010
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I'm looking for a video clip online or from a movie section to use in a presentation to a national park to convince them to let us make a trail on their mountain.

But I'm pretty rigid with requirements on this hence me asking here.

I want:
No wooden features (You're going to cut down trees?!?"

No deep bogs or sections of trail that look "damaged".

Gotta look really fun.

No hard core music, death metal or the sorts. The guys watching this are probably not going to be into that stuff and is probably going to portray a bad image to them.

Preferably in forested area, not open ie: last section follow me.

I was thinking the first section of life cycles, but the more options the better!

Thanks guys.
 
Wa-Aw

Wa-Aw

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Jul 30, 2010
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LOOnatic said:
All cool vids but i would certainly tone down whatever content you present in your presentation.
Skids, drifts, busting airs, etc i would leave out and focus more on "boring" footage.
Thats what you want them to remember and not "extreme".
Good luck with it
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You're totally right. This is what I was thinking while combing through my bike movies. All of our fun riding would generally seem like delinquent behaviour to a park manager. Maybe try and market a more XC'ish trail and get to building bigger stuff once the bureaucracy is past.

....or maybe that almost eternally awesome last segment of seasons.
 
NMTXLA

NMTXLA

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LOOnatic said:
All cool vids but i would certainly tone down whatever content you present in your presentation.
Skids, drifts, busting airs, etc i would leave out and focus more on "boring" footage.
Thats what you want them to remember and not "extreme".
Good luck with it
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I've got to agree with Loo, I've got a Degree in Environmental Science and from experience dealing with super-enviro type people, just about any time you show someone hitting their brakes its going to show dislodging of the soil which to them is erosion. The scene in the first video with the rider going through the stream, you don't want to show that, that is erosion and water pollution if you get the wrong person in your meeting. Sorry I know this doesn't really help but you should defiantly know what your up against if you get the wrong person. Best of luck.
 
Eye of One

Eye of One

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Do you know how to edit video? you should find someone who knows how and just cut your own mini edit from clips on youtube or whatever else showing the images that you want them to see.
 
Mulestar

Mulestar

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I think you'd be better off to show them photos of sustainable trail features and then try to educate them on how such features could be integrated into a fun DH trail. Things like rock armoring, sustainable grades, rolling grade dips, etc... This is going to speak more to them than videos of "rad bros shredding".

Keep in mind that the general consensus is that DH trail is inherently UNsustainable so I think your best bet is to try to change that attitude. Make water management your top priority (I'm assuming you get a lot of rain down there?). Make it known that soil degradation and sediment deposition are concerns to you. You need to be prepared to follow through with your intentions if you actually end up building the trail. You won't be able to use extended fall line or steep grades. You will have to use rock to harden the trail surface in steep areas. It will be very different than building a DH run for you and your friends...be prepared to put 5x the amount of work into it if you want to make it "environmentally friendly". The hard truth is that world cup-style steepness will NEVER be sustainable... You're going to have to take a different approach to this trail if it's going to be in a national park. This doesn't mean it won't be fun, just different.
 
Bikael Molton

Bikael Molton

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Also, if you can find footage of kids riding bikes, rather than old dudes, it will greatly help you cause... no kidding.
 
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NoUseForAName

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Mulestar said:
I think you'd be better off to show them photos of sustainable trail features and then try to educate them on how such features could be integrated into a fun DH trail. Things like rock armoring, sustainable grades, rolling grade dips, etc... This is going to speak more to them than videos of "rad bros shredding".

Keep in mind that the general consensus is that DH trail is inherently UNsustainable so I think your best bet is to try to change that attitude. Make water management your top priority (I'm assuming you get a lot of rain down there?). Make it known that soil degradation and sediment deposition are concerns to you. You need to be prepared to follow through with your intentions if you actually end up building the trail. You won't be able to use extended fall line or steep grades. You will have to use rock to harden the trail surface in steep areas. It will be very different than building a DH run for you and your friends...be prepared to put 5x the amount of work into it if you want to make it "environmentally friendly". The hard truth is that world cup-style steepness will NEVER be sustainable... You're going to have to take a different approach to this trail if it's going to be in a national park. This doesn't mean it won't be fun, just different.
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BEST ANSWER +1.

No dh stuff, no skids or shredding the gnar. No one riding much above a fast running speed. Flowy singletrack is what you want - look for videos made by companies like Specialized, Cannondale and trek to promote their all mountain/trail bikes.
 
Wa-Aw

Wa-Aw

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Jul 30, 2010
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Mulestar said:
I think you'd be better off to show them photos of sustainable trail features and then try to educate them on how such features could be integrated into a fun DH trail. Things like rock armoring, sustainable grades, rolling grade dips, etc... This is going to speak more to them than videos of "rad bros shredding".

Keep in mind that the general consensus is that DH trail is inherently UNsustainable so I think your best bet is to try to change that attitude. Make water management your top priority (I'm assuming you get a lot of rain down there?). Make it known that soil degradation and sediment deposition are concerns to you. You need to be prepared to follow through with your intentions if you actually end up building the trail. You won't be able to use extended fall line or steep grades. You will have to use rock to harden the trail surface in steep areas. It will be very different than building a DH run for you and your friends...be prepared to put 5x the amount of work into it if you want to make it "environmentally friendly". The hard truth is that world cup-style steepness will NEVER be sustainable... You're going to have to take a different approach to this trail if it's going to be in a national park. This doesn't mean it won't be fun, just different.
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Thanks Mulestar, read and understood. Luckily the mountain this will be built on is quite gradual on the gradient but the soil is terrible. It erodes if you look at it the wrong way. Plenty of rocks and fallen trees about to try and combat that and some way. I'm sure it's going to be a lot of work but there's a lot to be learnt in this.

Pictures is probably a better idea. Maybe keep some cool moving picutres on hand if they look like they're getting into it.
 
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