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Sam Hill Injured

RayB

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Jan 31, 2008
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No word on how serious his injury really is (and I'd imagine it's pretty bad if it'll keep him out've 2 WC rounds), but given history and his reputation, I'd still say he's a favorite for Top-10 @ Worlds this year.

I have no idea what rehab he had to go through last year when his shoulder blew up, so it's really all just speculation at this point, but I certainly wouldn't bet against him.

( ( ( ( headling vibez ) ) ) )
 

freeridefool

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Jun 17, 2006
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I would like to see the big world cup programs sign fast priviteer racers for single race deals kinda like moto does. The teams have the bikes and have to be there, might at well put fast guys on factory stuff and see how they do.

Sucks for the monster team this year.
 

NoUseForAName

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Mar 26, 2008
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I would like to see the big world cup programs sign fast priviteer racers for single race deals kinda like moto does. The teams have the bikes and have to be there, might at well put fast guys on factory stuff and see how they do.

Sucks for the monster team this year.
This is a great idea - pull someone from the 'minor leagues' and put em into a full factory deal.
 

aaronjb

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Jul 22, 2010
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“We place a high value on his contribution to the program, wish him well and hope to see him back on the bike soon”
Whether or not it's our brand of bike remains to be seen.
 

kidwoo

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Whether or not it's our brand of bike remains to be seen.
Heh. The guy did spend most of last season broken and then won the single highest profile race around. Carrying around the champs jersey is not minor. Of course it might not matter if he's wearing it at home pumping thera-bands but name recognition coupled with last years' circumstances justifies the support in my mind. Who knows.... It's still not andy schleck we're talking about here so maybe you're right.

That press release did kind of read like 'please please please don't drop me, please please please' however.
 

Whoops

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Jul 9, 2006
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Whether or not it's our brand of bike remains to be seen.
Yeah, this was my first though on reading the MONSTER ENERGY RULZ (oh and some guy who risks his life to advertise our ****ty softdrink is injured) press release.

Healing vibes to Mr Hill.
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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...only in mediocre ones, or those working to a minimal budget.
I think what's lame here is no so much the release which follows pretty standard press release format, but rather copy/pasting a press release and posting it as an article w/o distinguishing it as such.
 

Whoops

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Jul 9, 2006
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Um, no. Corporations work with boiler plate all the time, otherwise things do not get approved for release.
To continue the derailment...

Um, sometimes, sure. Doesn't mean the releases will be any good. eg, this one re:SH injury. Makes me think that Monster Energy is just another careless corporate who don't give a toss about one of 'their' riders.

Releases can (and in my view) be tailored, or even (shock horror) purpose written. That's what good PR firms/depts can do for a client that wants/pays for it.

so - public relations fail *for me*, but I suspect not the end of the world for Monster though, because I don't drink their product anyway. :rolleyes:

Once again, sucks to hear that Sam's been injured. 2012 for the comeback!
 

aaronjb

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Jul 22, 2010
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Heh. The guy did spend most of last season broken and then won the single highest profile race around. Carrying around the champs jersey is not minor. Of course it might not matter if he's wearing it at home pumping thera-bands but name recognition coupled with last years' circumstances justifies the support in my mind. Who knows.... It's still not andy schleck we're talking about here so maybe you're right.

That press release did kind of read like 'please please please don't drop me, please please please' however.
Having penned these before, the press release speaks to a bit of desperation on the part of team management. No doubt sponsors ponied up big to get on board this year, with the promise of a Hill resurgence. Coupled with his relatively lackluster results so far this season, it doesn't bode well. Rainbow jersey means little when it's not paraded around.

(+1 for the Schleck reference)

Dave Cullinan should take his place this weekend.
Where do I send money to make this happen?
 

aaronjb

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Jul 22, 2010
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It's called boiler plate. Press Releases are released on a template no matter what. It's standard practice in PR depts. world wide.
I'd tend to agree, except the obvious damning-through-faint-praise quote.

Also, now's a good a time as any to mention that you get what you pay for with professional and technical writing/copywriting. When you have the guy who books your trade show booth and packs the swag bags for races penning your press releases, they're sure to sound like they're written by software.

One gets the impression that Hill could have died a tragic death via shark mauling and they'd still devote more than half the wordcount to sponsor plugs.
 

djjohnr

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Apr 21, 2002
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To continue the derailment...

Um, sometimes, sure. Doesn't mean the releases will be any good. eg, this one re:SH injury. Makes me think that Monster Energy is just another careless corporate who don't give a toss about one of 'their' riders.

Releases can (and in my view) be tailored, or even (shock horror) purpose written. That's what good PR firms/depts can do for a client that wants/pays for it.

so - public relations fail *for me*, but I suspect not the end of the world for Monster though, because I don't drink their product anyway. :rolleyes:

Once again, sucks to hear that Sam's been injured. 2012 for the comeback!

I doubt his endorsement brings in much revenue (he's not even one of the "featured athletes" on their site). Actually, given their parent company (Hansen's) is pulling in $1.4 billion in revenue I guarantee he's not even a blip on their radar. Is it really such a surprise that they didn't devote much in the way of resources for this press release?
 
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Whoops

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I doubt his endorsement brings in much revenue (he's not even one of the "featured athletes" on their site). Actually, given their parent company (Hansen's) is pulling in $1.4 billion in revenue I guarantee he's not even a blip on their radar. Is it really such a surprise that they didn't devote much in the way of resources for this press release?
My point - more or less. Just another cynical massive corporate that can't be bothered to write a decent press release notifying fans of injury to their (Monster) and possibly *the* largest name star in DH... :think:

Good on Monster for putting $ into DH in the first place, but if they can't be arsed and don't care who knows, or are trying to send a message to Sam (you're just a dude on a bike who can be replaced) then *to me* they would seem to have succeeded.

edit to add; I really mean it when I say good on them for entering DH. Don't mean to sound too twisted!
 
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numerik

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Jul 22, 2005
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It seems Hill could be out for the rest of the season:
The team's usual top performer, Sam Hill, was not competing. The reigning elite downhill world champion recently crashed and injured his shoulder and is presently recovering from surgery to repair the ligaments in his shoulder.
 

vikingboy

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Dec 15, 2009
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Sponsoring a rider as random as Hill could only be considered a gamble to most investors.
He's hardly Mr Consistent but when he wins, he wins big and generates significant column inches. Sadly the gamble didnt pay off this year.
Really sad to see him out, definitely one of the most exciting riders to watch although some of these new kids on the block could challenge that throne too!
Great time for our sport regardless.
 

Akula_7

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Nov 15, 2004
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Sponsoring a rider as random as Hill could only be considered a gamble to most investors.
He's hardly Mr Consistent but when he wins, he wins big and generates significant column inches. Sadly the gamble didnt pay off this year.
Really sad to see him out, definitely one of the most exciting riders to watch although some of these new kids on the block could challenge that throne too!
Great time for our sport regardless.
Until his very recent run of unfortunate injuries Sam was arguably the most consistent rider on the World Cup circuit. He has had a podium position at every World Champs since 2001 (bar Canberra 09), he also had one of the longest podium streaks in recent history lasting through only missing the podium TWICE from the beginning of the 2007 season through to his season ending Fort William 2010 crash. I that ain't consistent then nothing is. His one crash in Val di sole followed by his wild get off in Andorra the following year has somehow labelled him as a win or bust kind of rider which has never ever been the case. the internet is pretty thick though!
 

vikingboy

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Dec 15, 2009
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Until his very recent run of unfortunate injuries Sam was arguably the most consistent rider on the World Cup circuit. He has had a podium position at every World Champs since 2001 (bar Canberra 09), he also had one of the longest podium streaks in recent history lasting through only missing the podium TWICE from the beginning of the 2007 season through to his season ending Fort William 2010 crash. I that ain't consistent then nothing is. His one crash in Val di sole followed by his wild get off in Andorra the following year has somehow labelled him as a win or bust kind of rider which has never ever been the case. the internet is pretty thick though!
I stand corrected. Thx for the potted Hill history. I returned to the sport a few years ago so have only seen him as inconsistent yet amazing rider when it hangs together for him.
 

William42

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Also, I feeling like winning Overall in 2009 and champs in 2010 is a pretty solid return on specialized investment.
 

davetrump

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Also, I feeling like winning Overall in 2009 and champs in 2010 is a pretty solid return on specialized investment.

yup... even better, go to a race or bike park and count the number of riders on '10 and '11 demo's. Solid ROI for sure so far.