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climbingbubba

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May 24, 2007
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gollub01 said:
haha Bubba- That made me laugh pretty hard. I was with him for most of the day yesterday, and I guess you still see the world the same whether your hurting or not. Gotta love the ladies especially when they take care of you. I promise Chris was a gentleman ! Thanks on behalf of Chris. I know he really feels grateful for all the love and support. Keep it up guys ! thanks !
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Ha ha,

She couldn't come out and say what patient she had last night due to the dumb HIPPA laws but she can tell a general story about a general patient and then when I read the update about where he was I figured it out.

My wife was the nurse that was orienting last night.
 
MrPlow

MrPlow

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Sep 9, 2004
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I hope Chris heals 100% and is back to health ASAP.
I thought your beloved president was going to overhaul your stupid medical system? FFS!
You should all move to Aus/NZ/UK where we have free health care! USA, you are seriously F'd up. :(
 
blackohio

blackohio

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Mar 12, 2009
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MrPlow said:
I hope Chris heals 100% and is back to health ASAP.
I thought your beloved president was going to overhaul your stupid medical system? FFS!
You should all move to Aus/NZ/UK where we have free health care! USA, you are seriously F'd up. :(
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Seriously, You should have hit submit reply after the first period and before the rest of your ramblings. You'd be typing in japanese if it werent for us yanks.
 
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Steve M

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Mar 3, 2007
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blackohio said:
Seriously, You should have hit submit reply after the first period and before the rest of your ramblings. You'd be typing in japanese if it werent for us yanks.
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Chill man, he was trying to sympathise - nobody wants a $100k medical bill!

Best wishes to Chris, spinal injuries aren't cool!
 
MrPlow

MrPlow

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Sep 9, 2004
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blackohio said:
Seriously, You should have hit submit reply after the first period and before the rest of your ramblings. You'd be typing in japanese if it werent for us yanks.
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Sorry mate you have taken my comment out of context. I think it is wrong for anyone to have to pay that sort of money or any sort of money when critically Ill or injured .
 
Killingtonvt

Killingtonvt

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Sep 19, 2005
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$ sent as well...

I already called dibs on borrowing Lance's Jedi skills for the summer, but Chris's is up for grabs to the highest bidder!!!
 
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gollub01

gollub01

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Sep 10, 2010
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Chris Canfield used his Jedi skills today when after surgery, he proceeded to walk down the hall. I was on the phone with Lance and couldnt believe when he said Chris was walking towards him. Great news ! I guess this is standard procedure for a patient to walk after spine surgery to make sure everything is ok. The power of positive thinking ! Heal fast, fast buddy !
 
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Limy

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Jul 16, 2007
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Sorry to hear about injury. Insurance and health service in the US seems expensive. I guess we are lucky over here in the UK with the NHS (never thought I would ever say that).

Canfield Bro's seem like great guys (only spoken on email) and make some of the best mountain bike products in the world.

Small $ sent and will send more after payday.

Hope you both heal up ASAP.

All the best.
 
downhill mike

downhill mike

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Mar 23, 2005
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The Whiteface Mt. Bike Park will be setting up a donation box at our front counter to help Chris with his enormous medical bills.
 
VMARTINEZ

VMARTINEZ

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May 23, 2005
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He has been released from the hospital and is on his way to his house. Please keep up the good vibes.
Vaughn
 
flymybike

flymybike

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Jan 7, 2004
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Below are some recent updates on Chris and Lance...

Friday afternoon - due to some unexpected complications associated with a pseudo anurysm, Chris was transferred via helicopter to University Hospital in Salt Lake, where he could be monitored and cared for by the vascular specialists and trauma team. It was great to be able to get him to SLC where they handle spinal injuries, and complications like this way more frequently than the hospital in Jackson. Tossing cookies on the heli was the highlight of his flight.

Saturday - Chris is all settled into the hospital, and the complications have somehow disappeared. He is scheduled for surgery this morning and moved to a "regular" room. Overnight, the docs had decided it is ok to begin cervical traction to allow the dislocated disk that was creating numbness in Chris' left arm to return to it's proper location. Success with the traction, Chris is finally a bit more comfortable. Chris' surgery is postponed due to another more critical patient getting his surgeon's slot today. Chris has a few visitors and finally catches up on sleep.

Sunday - Surgery finally! A few hours after surgery, Chris walked - yes - WALKED into the waiting room where Lance & Michelle and sisters Paige and April are hanging. (Photo attached) Chris does look like a guy who just had surgery - but more importantly, he was walking! and gives us a thumb's up!

Current... As of Sunday afternoon, there's a good chance Chris will be released Monday and begin his summer-long recovery. Stay tuned, we'll update you in another day or two with additional progress.

Additional notes. Thanks to everyone as well for keeping Lance in their thoughts too. It has been a tough few days for Lance. First, to have just had surgery on a broken leg and dislocated foot, (which includes a plate along his fibula that was attached by several screws). Then the very next day to hear your brother has had an accident and a broken neck. Next day was a full day at the hospital with Lance fielding over 100 calls from concerned friends. A long van ride to SLC the same day and back to the hospital to be with Chris. We're getting Lance back to Jackson soon to start his recovery and encourage a few days of much needed rest.
 

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marshalolson

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May 25, 2006
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no hospital or doctor will refuse service due to insurance status.

they will, however, stick you with a literally insurmountable pile of debt.

the governmental administrations (at least in the US) has proven time and time again that it cannot administer the tasks currently appointed to it, i don't see how this will be any different. it CERTAINLY cannot effectively administer the health care it currently offers (veterans), and it would be foolish to think that adding 200 million people will iron out the issues.

so yeah, anyhow, good luck and best wishes.
 
aenema

aenema

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Talked with Lance today as well and although I have no new updates of Chris, I had an almost identical break and surgical repair about 3 years ago.

Total bill was around 60k but I had none of the emergency transport he had to utilize. I had an occupational therapist come in the next morning (surgery was late evening) and had me walking stairs, learning how to roll out of bed properly, walking up and down the halls. This is all standard procedure.
First month is rough as they want you to experience zero impact while the screws in the plate and the bone frabments they use as a bridge between the vertebrae in place of the disk fuse. This meant no riding in cars unless I was going to a doc appointment. Very hard to not go insane during that phase.
After a month I was riding a stationary trainer in my living room and another month later doing road rides outside. After 3 months I was mellow riding on dirt and have had a, for the most part, complete recovery. Still have numbness in the left hand but it works properly and has good dexterity. Just kind of feels asleep but it becomes normal after a bit and you don't think of it unless somebody brings it up.

As far as universal health care. Bring it on, I personally have no complaints about the postal service or the DMV beyond the 'pay to play' but don't think they are very good comparisons. Look at Medicaid or Social Security, those who utilize that seem to love it (the elderly). It will be a rough ride at first but the bugs will eventually be ironed out and it can only help those astronomical rates being charged since they have to cover those without insurance by utilizing those who do.
You could argue that we already have a universal health care anyways when you look at why the rates are so high currently.
 
ALEXIS_DH

ALEXIS_DH

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marshalolson said:
no hospital or doctor will refuse service due to insurance status.

they will, however, stick you with a literally insurmountable pile of debt.

the governmental administrations (at least in the US) has proven time and time again that it cannot administer the tasks currently appointed to it, i don't see how this will be any different. it CERTAINLY cannot effectively administer the health care it currently offers (veterans), and it would be foolish to think that adding 200 million people will iron out the issues.

so yeah, anyhow, good luck and best wishes.
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well, its one of 3 options then:
death (you might not die in the ER, but you will die sooner if you cannot afford meds)
bankrupcy
so-so quality service at a relatively affordable price (it certainly cannot be more expensive than now, as the US spends a lot most $ in health care then other developed countries).

without being a complete commie, its one of those things, which, in the best interest in society (again, in a non-pinko tone) should be gvmt funded and mandatory like basic education, police force and firefighters... because the alternative is way worse.
 
Tomasis

Tomasis

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ALEXIS_DH said:
well, its one of 3 options then:
death (you might not die in the ER, but you will die sooner if you cannot afford meds)
bankrupcy
so-so quality service at a relatively affordable price (it certainly cannot be more expensive than now, as the US spends a lot most $ in health care then other developed countries).

without being a complete commie, its one of those things, which, in the best interest in society (again, in a non-pinko tone) should be gvmt funded and mandatory like basic education, police force and firefighters... because the alternative is way worse.
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wise post. I add lawyer


I want comment re "commie" myth. IT is UTTER BS that americans are so screwed with theirselves with (false propaganda, marketing). Just come to Sweden and check. Americans would call them all swedes "commies", seriously.

Liberty, opportunity to get free choice etc is good indeed! But involving earning money for just more money in very important areas is not liberty for an individual and society, it is rather very bad thing! One innocent individual would be screwed in debts for the whole life due corporate company culture. Is it the right thing?

It is easy for lawyer, doctor, rector, insurance worker to lure "uneducated" naive people out for more money. There are no rules. Those pro people are very good at such things and people are clueless. That's so called liberalism in economy.

Instead of word "commie" there is socialism. In sweden there is largest political party called "Socialdemocrats".. yeah they are commies by american defintion, I guess that democrats in USA are commies too.

Sorry for big OFFTOPIC but I feel I had educate here re "commie" BS

As for last, Health is most important of all and it doesnt matter if one is up to debts, at least one is living!
 
blackohio

blackohio

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Talked with Chris a bit yesterday. He said he was a bit out of it but at home and in good spirits! I think he was more worried about the new few weeks/month of pure boredom than the injury itself. He's gonna need an Xbox stat.

Sounded like a super scary experience though!
 
UiUiUiUi

UiUiUiUi

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Feb 2, 2003
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naaaah if he's bored he might start designing a new rearend for my 2008 can can with some more tire clearance :D

really happy to hear he is recovering fast :thumb:
 
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jonKranked

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will all the smarmy eurofags please refrain from health care system discussions? that's not what this thread is for (if you wanna bash our health care system, take it to the political forum - yes, ridemonkey has one. and ya know what? we'll probably join you in complaining about how much it blows nutz).

but this thread is NOT the appropriate place for it. a fellow rider and one of the best guys in the industry has injured himself, and all you guys can do is ride around on your high horses about how inferior our health care is? grow the fvck up.
 
frorider

frorider

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Jul 21, 2004
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jonKranked said:
will all the smarmy eurofags please refrain from health care system discussions? that's not what this thread is for (if you wanna bash our health care system, take it to the political forum - yes, ridemonkey has one. and ya know what? we'll probably join you in complaining about how much it blows nutz).

but this thread is NOT the appropriate place for it. a fellow rider and one of the best guys in the industry has injured himself, and all you guys can do is ride around on your high horses about how inferior our health care is? grow the fvck up.
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I hear where you're coming from.

On the other hand, the reason comments about health care systems come up so often in the 'rider down, send your contribution to xxxx.com' threads is partly because there are people out there in other countries thinking 'damn that sucks - injuries are bad enough to deal with, w/o financial stress on top of that'. so i don't see their comments as being 'on a high horse'; it's more like they are trying to emphathize with something that they can't relate to completely.

I know first-hand -- i have a bunch of family living in Australia, and to them healthcare is a boring topic. i.e. you get hurt, you get fixed, no big deal. they can't understand why the US has so many middle class people going bankrupt because of a physical injury. they don't get on a high horse...it's more like 'WTF? I'm confused'.
 
worship_mud

worship_mud

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Dec 9, 2006
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frorider said:
I hear where you're coming from.

On the other hand, the reason comments about health care systems come up so often in the 'rider down, send your contribution to xxxx.com' threads is partly because there are people out there in other countries thinking 'damn that sucks - injuries are bad enough to deal with, w/o financial stress on top of that'. so i don't see their comments as being 'on a high horse'; it's more like they are trying to emphathize with something that they can't relate to completely.

I know first-hand -- i have a bunch of family living in Australia, and to them healthcare is a boring topic. i.e. you get hurt, you get fixed, no big deal. they can't understand why the US has so many middle class people going bankrupt because of a physical injury. they don't get on a high horse...it's more like 'WTF? I'm confused'.
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^ this!

jon, no need to insult people! while i understand and agree that it's inappropriate to discuss the details of US health care politics in this thread, there is no need to insult people, of which i am sure that a fair number of them have contributed to chris' fund, just as you have done (have you????).
maybe you should reflect on how grown up you in fact are, yankee fag... :thumb:
 
flymybike

flymybike

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Jan 7, 2004
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Jackson Hole
Chris and I both have accident insurance. The policy covers most accedents (biking is covered) and can pay for most injurys (like my broken femur and seperated foot). I'll be close finacially to the limit but Chris injury was far outside the realm of normal costs. Most insurance companys don't cover all the bills. As a small company we barely pay ourselfs a salary which doensn't include full coverage heath insurance. We have always put our money back into the company as much as we can so that we can afford to build more products each year. This accedent has the potential to hurt, if not kill our company. We are doing what we can to not let a accident stop us from doing what we love most, riding, building the best products and being innovative.

For all of the amazing people that have been so supporting, Chris and I are so grateful to have you in our lives. I can't imagine how much harder this would have been without all the love and support.
 
VMARTINEZ

VMARTINEZ

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May 23, 2005
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I stopped and talked to Chris today for about an hour and he is good spirits. He wants to thank all the people for their help. Shawn has his phone for now but will have it in a week or so.
Thanks for all the good vibes and keep them up.
Vaughn
Any bad spelling is do to a good 6 pack.
Thanks again.
 
1000-Oaks

1000-Oaks

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May 8, 2003
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Healing vibes guys!!

Definitely talk to your insurance company about your annual "out-of-pocket maximum", even if you have a PPO with a high deductible the maximum you have to pay in any one year is typically $5k-$10k, no matter how much your medical services cost.
 
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VMARTINEZ

VMARTINEZ

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May 23, 2005
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If you want to contact Chris he does not have his phone. So Email, Skype or Facebook messages are the only way for now.
Thanks
VM
 
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