Disclaimer: I didn't post this in the M9 thread because I notice how the landings hit me when I get this sensation and I realized I see this in a lot of other bikes/riders, too.
On my previous bike (Banshee Scythe, slightly under sprung), when I landed from drops I would feel it ramp up but the bike would remain solid and straight as it neared bottom out, even when landing sideways on flat drops (when I notice this on the new bike most). These drops usually give me a little headbob at worst when bottoming kinda hard
On the M9 (feels slightly over sprung), when I hit the same drops it's a lot harder to bottom out, I don't feel like I'm quite reaching the end of the travel, but when I near it (this is hard to describe) I feel like the bike twists or at least the symptom is my body not being quite straight when I come out of it or a sensation of instability. No head bob bottom out stuff though, I feel like it soaks it up fine just with a little too much almost-sideways motion.
Theories:
Flex: I know the scythe is *probably* stiffer than the M9, it's rear end is pretty damn solid with enormous bearings but heck what do I know, it's hard to tell with so much more travel on the new bike.
Shock tune: Not enough rebound? Too little HSC? (RC4 by the way)
Spring's too hard? Too much force going into the bike than my body weight can account for?
Something to do with adjusting my riding style to the slacker head angle and how to land bike accordingly?
Curious thing is, this doesn't happen on hard rough hits on, say a fast rough DH course. This bike is the ducks nuts on that stuff and just plows through and stays calm and straight even through some pretty hard bottom outs. No sensation of instability or flex. This only seems to happens on drops or jumps with sideways landings, mostly relatively low speed.
I know this happens to a lot of guys out there, I now understand what that squirmy feeling on landing feels like!
e-engineers, do your worst!
TL;DR: Fancy DH bike does weird **** when bottomed old skool FR hucks.
On my previous bike (Banshee Scythe, slightly under sprung), when I landed from drops I would feel it ramp up but the bike would remain solid and straight as it neared bottom out, even when landing sideways on flat drops (when I notice this on the new bike most). These drops usually give me a little headbob at worst when bottoming kinda hard
On the M9 (feels slightly over sprung), when I hit the same drops it's a lot harder to bottom out, I don't feel like I'm quite reaching the end of the travel, but when I near it (this is hard to describe) I feel like the bike twists or at least the symptom is my body not being quite straight when I come out of it or a sensation of instability. No head bob bottom out stuff though, I feel like it soaks it up fine just with a little too much almost-sideways motion.
Theories:
Flex: I know the scythe is *probably* stiffer than the M9, it's rear end is pretty damn solid with enormous bearings but heck what do I know, it's hard to tell with so much more travel on the new bike.
Shock tune: Not enough rebound? Too little HSC? (RC4 by the way)
Spring's too hard? Too much force going into the bike than my body weight can account for?
Something to do with adjusting my riding style to the slacker head angle and how to land bike accordingly?
Curious thing is, this doesn't happen on hard rough hits on, say a fast rough DH course. This bike is the ducks nuts on that stuff and just plows through and stays calm and straight even through some pretty hard bottom outs. No sensation of instability or flex. This only seems to happens on drops or jumps with sideways landings, mostly relatively low speed.
I know this happens to a lot of guys out there, I now understand what that squirmy feeling on landing feels like!
e-engineers, do your worst!
TL;DR: Fancy DH bike does weird **** when bottomed old skool FR hucks.
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