Specialized Demo 8 Carbon
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lol beat me to it, ahaha
I see progress in construction but I see no progress in design...
give them some time to get familiar with the material. They know the frame shape works...once they understand the various effects of the carbon material, and what better way than in an already understoof frame shape, Im sure we will see more radical design changes. Plus, theres always next years frames to sell us 
Guess they have to have something for the 2013 Demogive them some time to get familiar with the material. They know the frame shape works...once they understand the various effects of the carbon material, and what better way than in an already understoof frame shape, Im sure we will see more radical design changes. Plus, theres always next years frames to sell us
Spec has been building Carbon bikes for a while now, they should know how the material works and how it feels in various tube profiles.give them some time to get familiar with the material. They know the frame shape works...once they understand the various effects of the carbon material, and what better way than in an already understoof frame shape, Im sure we will see more radical design changes. Plus, theres always next years frames to sell us
I hope so
fixed for ya.
Hey lets all be like Trek I mean Santa Cruz I mean GT I really meant Lahar.
Sorry just thought the need to highjack this thread and turn it into a PSA about why meth is bad is imminent
Because lets face it, this thread isn't really about a bike its about egos and e penises
Sorry just thought the need to highjack this thread and turn it into a PSA about why meth is bad is imminent
Because lets face it, this thread isn't really about a bike its about egos and e penises
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Ya, It'd be better if they took a proven design, chucked it out the window, took a new material, new production techniques and completely redesigned the product, and took a big risk with it not working. Incremental improvements are only for legitimate, experienced engineer. Stupid risks and changes leading to spectacular failures of products are what the bike industry is made of.
I think you just answered your own question here... the alu version was designed and assumed the form it took for a reason...
I can relate to your passion for new, creative, aesthetically pleasing designs, but just because a company decides to make a new carbon version of an existing alu platform doesn't necessarily mean that new design should look radically different for the sake of appearances.I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but there is MUCH more going on with frame tubing than just diameter. One of the keys to structural rigidity is not just diameter but also wall thickness. This is true for either carbon or alu applications. In a DH bike design, you want the DT to be as large and robust as possible - dw is a strong proponent of this ideology and it makes sense. However, SC chose to go with a smaller carbon tube set. In order to accomplish this, the wall thickness of the DT for example is incredibly thick.
Carbon is a very interesting media to work with b/c the designer has the freedom to manipulate it in a multitude of ways. If you look at GT's approach to the Fury, it would seem like an alu monocoque was the design model it was based on. Similarly, Cro-Mo tubing resembles the strategy SC employed.
I have NO idea what the DT wall thickness is on the new Demo, but rest assured Spesh's partnership with McLaren will produce more than reasonable results.
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I will actually break my silence on this...I interviewed for a helmet developer position up at Specialized a few months ago (they actually flew me up there which was pretty cool..nice people) and there were McLaren F1 engineers there while I was interviewing and I was told that's what they were working on. With McLaren involved, I wouldn't have any worries with strength...they're a serious bunch.I think you just answered your own question here... the alu version was designed and assumed the form it took for a reason...
I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but there is MUCH more going on with frame tubing than just diameter. One of the keys to structural rigidity is not just diameter but also wall thickness. This is true for either carbon or alu applications. In a DH bike design, you want the DT to be as large and robust as possible - dw is a strong proponent of this ideology and it makes sense. However, SC chose to go with a smaller carbon tube set. In order to accomplish this, the wall thickness of the DT for example is incredibly thick.
Carbon is a very interesting media to work with b/c the designer has the freedom to manipulate it in a multitude of ways. If you look at GT's approach to the Fury, it would seem like an alu monocoque was the design model it was based on. Similarly, Cro-Mo tubing resembles the strategy SC employed.
I have NO idea what the DT wall thickness is on the new Demo, but rest assured Spesh's partnership with McLaren will produce more than reasonable results.
...yeah, but what really matters - did you get a job?
unfortunately no...yeah, but what really matters - did you get a job?
the interview went awesome but I think they went with a local candidate as they would have had to pay for my moving expenses and the penalty on my lease.that's alright though, I have something else brewing for Monday with another company.
Carbon fiber sam hill pajamas?
Carbon is going to get to a place where it will be cheaper than aluminum to produce, and the stiffness to weight ratio of carbon is superior to aluminum. CF construction is getting to be more mainstream and the precision of the manufacturing process is improving. Currently, the cost of producing an alum vs. carbon frame is very similar.
I'll give aluminum another 5 years before it's obsolete as far as bike frame construction goes, with the possible exception of some linkages / stays.
I'll give aluminum another 5 years before it's obsolete as far as bike frame construction goes, with the possible exception of some linkages / stays.
They hired away most of the Bell sports engineers actually....yeah, but what really matters - did you get a job?
woah...
Rumor has it the outlaws that were on it folded under the stress of a big company debating a gearbox, Azonic is currently being contacted for warranty replacement.
about time one if the majors paid attention.
Specialized R&D ride everything. Last year during Crankworx they had a Revolt, Glory, 88 and a few more that I've forgot. Pounding out the laps, changing shocks etc.
I think it's fair to say they know what's up.
Speci and McLaren have already workeded togehther on the new S-works Tarmarc Road Bike, which was seen at this years Tour the France.......
And that's gonna be my bike next season. The big S knows what they are doing and has the right attitude for product development, that's for sure.
you're two pages late.
And you two pages too cool!
2012 update : http://www.triridemtb.com/en/specialized-demo-8-carbon-spy-shot/
more pics at the link...
more pics at the link...
why does that bike have a dropper post??
"why does that bike have a dropper post?? "
Getting ready for RSA?
Getting ready for RSA?
No getting ready for. We're in South Africa, and that was at a South African national on the same track.
Do you ever actually think or do you simply **** out of your mouth?
