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Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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waltham. My wife and I both work in cambridge for now, though I'll be moving to the burlington area soon. It's 30-45minutes into cambridge by car, public trans is not a very good option where we are (hour and a half bus ride, good commuter rail options but 2.5 miles away).
Bike or drive to commuter rail station. Problem solved.
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
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Nowhere Man!
Waltham is a good town. The Fitchburg line stops in Porter Sq Red line station and has fairly flexible time schedule.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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My house buying rule - do not mortgage more than your combined annual income and have at least a years worth of payments in the bank after the down payment. Also - the smaller the house the less it will cost to heat and cool. :)
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

Reincarnated Crab Walking Head Spinning Bruce Dick
Nov 30, 2003
14,163
2,484
Groton, MA
His times are accurate. I have driven both routes many a times.
:cupidarrow:

Also - the smaller the house the less it will cost to heat and cool. :)
My house is 1350sq. ft., and since it's a newer house (built in 1996) it's well insulated. Heating last winter wasn't bad at all (and it got pretty cold here....lots of nights below 0). This fall my parents are giving me their old fireplace pellet stove insert they don't use anymore. That combined with the open living room/dining room/kitchen layout should cut down oil quite a bit this winter.
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

Reincarnated Crab Walking Head Spinning Bruce Dick
Nov 30, 2003
14,163
2,484
Groton, MA
i just had to look it up to see where the hell Hubardston was. it's not really no mans land.

good luck finding a place Sandwich, i'm looking for a condo myself. tired of renting.
It really isn't at all, but to people who live in and around the city they think it's "western MA". To me it's just far enough to get away from the crappy city living without breaking the bank/patience commuting so far.

When I was looking for a house I was staying in my parent's cabin on the Quabbin Resivoir for 8 months in New Salem (right near Orange/Athol).....that commute was pushing it (65 miles each way, only had the Jeep at the time with 31" All-Terrains and gas was peaking at $4/gallon). I was spending what I thought was an absurd amount a month on gas.......then I got a mortgage :rofl:
 
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Sandwich

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i just had to look it up to see where the hell Hubardston was. it's not really no mans land.

good luck finding a place Sandwich, i'm looking for a condo myself. tired of renting.
thanks dude...I think we'll have some luck. There are some pretty neat houses out there, and it's all a matter of sorting out what we need as a couple and as a future family. There's a lot of junk on the market too, so it's kind of interesting. Hard to see the value of the place we're renting now compared to someplace else that's fully renovated, when they cost the same.

To toshi/jdcamb-
Waltham is neat because the northern suburbs are pretty "suburby" but the south side is straight up city. You can get pretty great ethnic food and then be back home in no time. The commuter rail is downtown which is great, but provides challenges for getting there from the northern burbs, which is where we're looking. Riding a bike would be a fine option for me....but soon I'll be driving north, where there's ZERO public trans, and the wife is not a bike rider, no matter how hard I try. Parking at the station(s) is limited and costly. When you add it up, you're paying $4-6 a day to park at a station, plus the cost of the T pass, plus any gas you use. I'm willing to bet the $125 T pass plus the cost of daily parking comes out to similar cost in gas and vehicle maintenance, but you save ~1 hour each way and you don't have to ride the notoriously poorly maintained T. If that were a better service, I'd plop us down somewhere on the rail line and not think about it...but it's a risky proposition at best and I truly believe catastrophe is around the corner.
 

Brian HCM#1

MMMMMMMMM BEER!!!!!!!!!!
Sep 7, 2001
32,119
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Bay Area, California
Interest rates are killer right now, great time to buy. We're in the process of refinancing and locked into a rate of 4.37% on a 30 year fixed. Pretty damn stoked!
 

Da Peach

Outwitted by a rodent
Jul 2, 2002
13,683
4,912
North Van
My house buying rule - do not mortgage more than your combined annual income and have at least a years worth of payments in the bank after the down payment. Also - the smaller the house the less it will cost to heat and cool. :)
Jeebus. In Vancouver, you'd have to be EXTREMELY wealthy to pull that one off...

A 1,000sqft condo will run you about $500,000 within 10km of downtown Vancouver.

Gah.
 

Riding

Monkey
Dec 19, 2006
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Millis, MA
Good luck on the search. If you're not in any kind of time constraint, look into short sales. I have a couple friends who just got more home for the buck by waiting out a short sale. I also just saw some house hunters show where a couple was looking for a house and settled on a short sale somewhere north of Boston.

Moved out of the City 6 months ago. Miss some aspects of it. The traffic...I do not! Plus the 15-20 minutes to riding spots like Nam/Foxboro/Borderland/Hale/etc vs a hour to anywhere but the Fells is a plus.

Before you buy/plan on buying, make sure you create yourself a spreadsheet to show yourself how much $$ you are actually going to be forking over to the bank. It's absolutely sickening when you look at it. And check out the same price with the 15yr fixed. The mortgage payments aren't that far off and you can pocket a lot of money in the long run.

It's never going to be like our parents/older relatives who, in the 80s, bought an inexpensive house with 20% down, and were paying 13% interest. Then 5-10 years later, interest rates dropped while the Stock Market skyrocketed, so it made sense to refinance and invest money while you had a mortgage. Then because interest rates were low, people could afford to pay more $$ for houses, so housing prices increased to a point where people can not afford to buy a house even on a 30 year loan...but they still received those loans. Now were ****ed. Moral of the story, Straight Cash Homey!
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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Fort of Rio Grande
Then you shouldn't buy... people in the Seattle area commonly live above their means so I suppose Vancouver is no different.

Save before you buy because it will be hard to save after. :)

Jeebus. In Vancouver, you'd have to be EXTREMELY wealthy to pull that one off...

A 1,000sqft condo will run you about $500,000 within 10km of downtown Vancouver.

Gah.
 
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Da Peach

Outwitted by a rodent
Jul 2, 2002
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North Van
Then you shouldn't buy... people in the Seattle area commonly live above their means so I suppose Vancouver is no different.

Save before you buy because it will be hard to save after. :)
Yup. Quite comfortable renting and saving now...

Damned comforts of our high quality of life! Now we're spoiled.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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Portland is waaay cheaper. But Seattle has many more jobs...
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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Jeebus. According to teh interwebz I'd have to make 10 grand more a year for equivalent life style. Housing 52% more than here says CNN money comparison calculator. :twitch: Think I'm going to wait for PDX. SEA isn't really where I want to go anyway.
the one nice thing about having already lived in LA and currently living in NJ, is that there are only a handful of places I could move that would actually be MORE expensive.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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Fort of Rio Grande
I've been able to save quite a bit of cash living in Montana versus the I5 corridor and I live 8 minutes from work :)

Jeebus. According to teh interwebz I'd have to make 10 grand more a year for equivalent life style. Housing 52% more than here says CNN money comparison calculator. :twitch: Think I'm going to wait for PDX. SEA isn't really where I want to go anyway.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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Warsaw :/
Jeebus. In Vancouver, you'd have to be EXTREMELY wealthy to pull that one off...

A 1,000sqft condo will run you about $500,000 within 10km of downtown Vancouver.

Gah.
A 1000sqft condo for 500$ within 10km of downtown. **** when I stop living like a bum Im moving to Van. In Warsaw a 600sqft condo is around 700k$ and we earn probably a fourth what you earn in Canada(Mean Income in Warsaw is 1200$). Also by Condo I mean an older appartment, a new one built in the last 10 years will be 2-3x as much.


Sandwich - good luck with your search.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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Fort of Rio Grande


A 1000sqft condo for 500$ within 10km of downtown. **** when I stop living like a bum Im moving to Van. In Warsaw a 600sqft condo is around 700k$ and we earn probably a fourth what you earn in Canada(Mean Income in Warsaw is 1200$). Also by Condo I mean an older appartment, a new one built in the last 10 years will be 2-3x as much.


Sandwich - good luck with your search.
 

Sandwich

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May 23, 2002
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OK, found a house, need to make an offer. How low can you go before it's insulting? House is listed at 429, we feel it's worth 390. I'd be comfortable with a 380 offer allowing for leeway up from there. Is 11.5% too low of an initial offer? The market isn't very hot, but the house just came on the market a few days ago, so it's doubtful any offer would make any waves until it rots for a few months, like every other house is doing.
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
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Of the four houses I've purchased, I always put out the offer I wanted to pay (in your case $390k) as a take it or leave it. You can always negotiate further after inspection or if current owners have any conditions to sale that you find annoying.

In this market people are more likely to accept a reasonable offer that lets them avoid months of showings and lowball quotes. I always sold my properties to the buyers who were the least PITA. I simply toyed with the ones who thought they were Donald trump. My guess is the owners want $400k.
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
OK, found a house, need to make an offer. How low can you go before it's insulting? House is listed at 429, we feel it's worth 390. I'd be comfortable with a 380 offer allowing for leeway up from there. Is 11.5% too low of an initial offer? The market isn't very hot, but the house just came on the market a few days ago, so it's doubtful any offer would make any waves until it rots for a few months, like every other house is doing.
What does zillow say its worth? Personally, in my market, I'd start 20% lower and pay absolutely no more than 10% below what zillow says its worth. Its a horrible time to be a seller and lots of people are desperate to sell. If you don't get a hell of a deal on a place your doing it wrong. YMMV of course and every market is different, but even if your in a relatively decent market area (of which there are few to none) if you don't get at least 2.5% lower than market value, you got ripped off.
 

Sandwich

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I think the boston area has stayed fairly strong. It's been pretty level in Waltham, from what I've seen.

The house we're looking at is an estate sale, looks like it was sold for a dollar not too long ago and then they just picked a value and put it on the market...we've seen a couple of those. The "zestimate" is 411k, and assessment at 360k. To us, it seems like this is a decent property that needs some elbow grease...good roof, structure, space, etc....but it's ugly as hell inside, and the only thing selling in the neighborhood tends to be rehabbed or new construction houses.

I'd have no problem flinging out a 360k offer on this house....in a month. The house we're renting now has been rotting on the market for 6 months and they refuse to change the price...lots of sellers are doing that, and nobody is buying their houses. There's something like 30 houses in our price range on the market in the area.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Colorado
It's always better to insult someone than to pay too much. Aim low and see what they come back with. It will never hurt to lowball, especially when you have to live with paying back the remaining amount.