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Best flat dh pedal

Eye of One

Eye of One

Chimp
Apr 2, 2011
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Hey just wanted some people's opinion on your fav flat pedal for dh, i just broke one of mine the other day in whistler. Im a bit a weight wiener d-bag lol so i was trying out some NC 17 mg II's which for the price were really light 369g and grippy but obviously not very strong, all probably beef up and go straitline but any other suggestions.
 
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Deano

Monkey
Feb 14, 2011
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If you do end up with straitlines, make sure you strip and grease them 2-3 times every month, at least..

Ive never seen a pedal seize up as fast as they do.
 
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davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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Really depends on price...

Lots of 'inexpensive' versions of the Kona (what ever is cheapest in the Touque).

If you want more botique (and variable increased benefits IMO..)
There are a number:
Bergtec, straightline, Canfield, all the '26' pedals,

Then there are the 'inexpensive', very light weight pedals that generally give up all proper design for weight savings (Way to tall, or break if you hit them on anything)
the NCs you had, superstar versions with some Ti or Mag, MG1s

For me I want:
LOW profile
concave
well designed for durability
big platform
well thought out pin patern/mounting/etc


I could find serious issues (for me) with 99.9% of pedals that people are very happy with...without even looking hard. I am a pedal perfectionist. A little retentive about them.


For me, Point 1 have been the best pedal I have run in the 30 years I have been riding bikes on the dirt... (I dont think any pedal should be this $$, but they are FAR under the price of others that have blatent shortcommings IMO).... I have not fully beat the **** out of them yet, but they are the best for me and my (functional) priorities.
 
saruti

saruti

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
1,169
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Israel
superstar nano
great pedals and really great price.
I think that every flat pedal can be good with the right shoes (5/10) and long pins...
 
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eastcoastDH

Chimp
Apr 8, 2011
72
0
noVA
mg/ti nukeproof neutrons. super light, low profile and grippy. only downside is the price, but id say theyre worth it.
 
no skid marks

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
2,511
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ACT Australia
davep said:
Really depends on price...

Lots of 'inexpensive' versions of the Kona (what ever is cheapest in the Touque).I think the Kowas are the nicest compromise of weight, and great (bolt through)pin placement.

Other HT pedals have to much meat missing for DH IMO, like the Black spires.
For me I want:
LOW profile
concave
well designed for durability
big platform
well thought out pin patern/mounting/etc

For me, Point 1 have been the best pedal I have run in the 30 years I have been riding bikes on the dirt... (I dont think any pedal should be this $$, but they are FAR under the price of others that have blatent shortcommings IMO).... I have not fully beat the **** out of them yet, but they are the best for me and my (functional) priorities.
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PO1NTs with long pins for and aft give stupid grip and make them feel a bit more concave. The pins end up making the pedal with from pin tip to pin tip close to the same as the cool concave shaped HTs.
 
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Acadian

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
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Blah Blah and Blah
davep said:
Really depends on price...

Lots of 'inexpensive' versions of the Kona (what ever is cheapest in the Touque).

If you want more botique (and variable increased benefits IMO..)
There are a number:
Bergtec, straightline, Canfield, all the '26' pedals,

Then there are the 'inexpensive', very light weight pedals that generally give up all proper design for weight savings (Way to tall, or break if you hit them on anything)
the NCs you had, superstar versions with some Ti or Mag, MG1s

For me I want:
LOW profile
concave
well designed for durability
big platform
well thought out pin patern/mounting/etc


I could find serious issues (for me) with 99.9% of pedals that people are very happy with...without even looking hard. I am a pedal perfectionist. A little retentive about them.


For me, Point 1 have been the best pedal I have run in the 30 years I have been riding bikes on the dirt... (I dont think any pedal should be this $$, but they are FAR under the price of others that have blatent shortcommings IMO).... I have not fully beat the **** out of them yet, but they are the best for me and my (functional) priorities.
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But aren't Point 1's flat (eg not concave)?
 
norbar

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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MinorThreat said:
Twenty6 Pre-runners.

. . . or Syncros Crux.
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Depends where you live. I lost A LOT of pins from my Prerunners during my 2 week stay in Morzine. Granted that place is heavy on the bike and in most cases I didnt lose any pins but have to think about it. The platform however is very grippy and durable. I like them but think about them pins ;)
 
Dogboy

Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
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Acadian said:
But aren't Point 1's flat (eg not concave)?
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They are concave for sure. It's not as pronounced as some pedals, but they definitely aren't flat. I agree with Dave that they are some of the best pedals I've ridden in many years - even with the stock, short pins.
 
no skid marks

no skid marks

Monkey
Jan 15, 2006
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ACT Australia
Dogboy said:
They are concave for sure. It's not as pronounced as some pedals, but they definitely aren't flat. I agree with Dave that they are some of the best pedals I've ridden in many years - even with the stock, short pins.
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Yeah stock pins are fine, I just use the long pins when my 5tens are worn :thumb:
 
Ithnu

Ithnu

Monkey
Jul 16, 2007
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Denver
I've replaced pins with longer set screws on pedals and noticed far more difference from that vs switching brands.
 
RMboy

RMboy

Monkey
Dec 1, 2006
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England the Great...
I have to agree with the people saying the twenty6 pedals are great.

They really are. I've only had them a short time and yet to really abuse them. however grip and build quality is great.:thumb:
 
norbar

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Warsaw :/
I wonder what is the best pedal people had here grip wise?(and dont weight a ton like that old syncros did) I dont feel a bit improvement with the switch from wah wahs to twenty6. In some conditions one are better in some the other.
Points with long pins? Straitline? Im an ex spd rider so I tend to like as much grip as possible and I hardly take my feet off the pedals.
 
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Santa Maria

Monkey
Aug 29, 2007
653
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Austria
RMboy said:
I have to agree with the people saying the twenty6 pedals are great.

They really are. I've only had them a short time and yet to really abuse them. however grip and build quality is great.:thumb:
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Do you have the prerunners?

I had/have two sets of the older ones (do not remember the name) - these are definitely not dh worthy - i only use them on my AM Bike.
 
norbar

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,369
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Warsaw :/
Santa Maria said:
Do you have the prerunners?

I had/have two sets of the older ones (do not remember the name) - these are definitely not dh worthy - i only use them on my AM Bike.
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Prerunners (at least the new 2011 ones) have been beefed up to take abuse better.
 
RMboy

RMboy

Monkey
Dec 1, 2006
879
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England the Great...
Santa Maria said:
Do you have the prerunners?

I had/have two sets of the older ones (do not remember the name) - these are definitely not dh worthy - i only use them on my AM Bike.
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2010 Prerunners. Im not really a pedal smasher. :-)

if the Nuke proof mag pedals could handle 2 years with only losing 2 pins. I think these bad boys will be ok:thumb:
 
davec113

davec113

Monkey
May 24, 2009
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worship_mud said:
kona wah-wah's

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^^^These

Under $100 and under 500 grams, I have them on my dh and trail bikes, one set is on their 2nd season and going strong, the others are on their 3rd. The oldest ones started creaking a tiny bit but have no play, the ones on their 2nd season are still perfect.

I can't see spending A LOT more money to have lighter pedals, and I don't believe that ANY other pedal is going to perform noticeably better or have much better durability.
 
MinorThreat

MinorThreat

Turbo Monkey
Nov 15, 2005
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norbar said:
I wonder what is the best pedal people had here grip wise?(and dont weight a ton like that old syncros did) I dont feel a bit improvement with the switch from wah wahs to twenty6. In some conditions one are better in some the other.
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I still honestly think Syncros pins - - the v-groove gives each pin basically two points (you just better always be wearing your shin armor).

As far as weight, the Crux are 428g for the pair; that's within a few gs of my trusty Mental Magnesiums and they're lower profile. Plus, even at that weight, you get Syncros typically over-engineered burliness of 4-bearing suspension: one DU bushing, a needle bearing and two cartridge ball bearings.
 
'size

'size

Turbo Monkey
May 30, 2007
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AZ
davec113 said:
^^^These

Under $100 and under 500 grams, I have them on my dh and trail bikes, one set is on their 2nd season and going strong, the others are on their 3rd. The oldest ones started creaking a tiny bit but have no play, the ones on their 2nd season are still perfect.

I can't see spending A LOT more money to have lighter pedals, and I don't believe that ANY other pedal is going to perform noticeably better or have much better durability.
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same - DH and trail bikes. i just pulled the set off the DH bike and put them on the wife's new bike and was looking for replacements, thinking i'd try something else. the spank spike's look good but are vaporware at this point. the point1 look sick but are a bit more than i was hoping to spend. i'll probably end up just swapping between bikes until the specialized are priced or go with another set of the wah wah's. i know exactly what i'm getting with them and am happy with them.
 
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roel_koel

Monkey
Mar 26, 2003
278
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London,England
to put my 2$ of knowledge into the mix

ran DMR V-8, V-12, V-12 Mag, many Wellgo pedals for years, Shimano DX, etc.

ran Syncros Mental Alloy pedals for 2 season, no issues but a little heavy (not crazy heavy like the Cromos)

then ran Syncros Mental Magnesium pedals for couple of months, until I ripped out a pin on a DH track - this never happened with the Alloy pedal model

both Syncros pedals very grippy with 5-10 super tacky shoe (what isnt?) but no so grippy with Oakley FR flat pedal shoes or some skate shoes, especially in the wet and mud the Syncros turrets would cause my feet to turn on the pedals

then some newer pedals coming onto market, thinner / lighter / wider and grippier

found some Wellgo MG-1 at a great price, but after going through 3 pairs in 18 months I am not impressed with durability of their inboard sealing and inboard bushing design - my last pair lasted only 4 months of a wet and muddy UK winter before they were clicking / graunching and showing excess play between axle and body

now just got some Nukeproof Neutron (same pedal as Superstar Nano Tech and Kona Wah Wah) cheap at trade price through my shop (cheaper than buying from Superstar), 1st impressions very nice to ride, flatter, wider, very very grippy even in skate shoes (not tried in 5-10s yet)

no feedback on durability will report back after UK winter season ;)
 
Eye of One

Eye of One

Chimp
Apr 2, 2011
29
0
Surrey B.C. CANADA
It seems like no matter what you spend on pedals they get thrashed anyways,especially on dh bikes since they all have low bb's like my Tr450, im just not sure i wanna spend top dollar on a (to me ) expendable piece. Gonna check into those point 1's though.
 
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drastic.

Monkey
May 16, 2011
145
0
pleasanton, ca
what's everyone think of a flat pedal, instead of a slightly concave'd pedal?

looking at VP-001 pedals (minus a few pins) to try. $50. 345/g. cheap/disposable, look good, and probably better traction compared to my stock pedals.. just not sure how they'd feel being a completely flat base in comparison to a standard concave'd pedal.
 
4gnegative

4gnegative

Chimp
Sep 10, 2010
99
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Orange Curtain
I don't know what the best pedals are but I do know without a doubt that vp-001's are pure garbage.

This was from a very light rockstrike.


The outer edge of these pedals are unsupported and get mangled very easily. Save your money and buy something else.
 
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cheytac

Chimp
Aug 7, 2011
8
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I recommend Blackspire sub4, very good quality-price, only 350g for 100$ and look amazing.

The only problem with these pedals are the pins, polished and very flats, you need fiveteen shoes or similar so that they have enough grip, with regular shoes the grip can be poor as the pins are polished as I said.

I have seen a broken one in the first post replies, but I have used mines for a while and no issues up to now

 
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daisycutter

daisycutter

Turbo Monkey
Apr 8, 2006
1,660
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New York City
http://reviews.mtbr.com/tioga-introduces-worlds-thinnest-dual-concave-mountain-bike-pedal

Tioga Introduces World’s Thinnest Dual-Concave Mountain Bike Pedal


Monday August 8th, 2011 at 3:88 PM
Posted by: aquadog



Los Angeles, California – August 8, 2011 – Tioga unveiled the new ZEROaxle® MT-ZERO, the world’s thinnest dual-concave off-road bicycle pedal. Measuring no more than 7mm thin, and 4mm at the thinnest, the MT-ZERO redefines thin.

“The breakthrough is made possible by Tioga’s ZEROaxle bearing system,” said Kai Cheng, Tioga’s global marketing manager. “With conventional pedals, the body must be tall enough to contain the axle and bearings that are within its body. The ZEROaxle system in the MT-ZERO removes this restriction by redirecting its axle and bearing away from the body, allowing for an incredibly thin profile.”

The leading-edge concept starts with the ZEROaxle bolt assembly which houses an outboard sealed cartridge bearing, precision machine-pressed into the bolt, to facilitate the pedal’s rotation. With the absence of the traditional axle or multiple bearings within the body of a ZEROaxle pedal, a special outboard bearing is equipped to handle the redirected load converging into a smaller area. Whereas typical pedal bearings are 13mm in diameter, ZEROaxle’s cartridge bearing is more than twice the size and capable of handling over five times the dynamic load of typical bearings – ZEROaxle bolts have been thoroughly tested to meet the Japan Industrial Standards (JIS) for pedal bearings.

The result is a pedal system with an entirely new form factor made possible by the ZEROaxle bolt.

Thinner is Better
A thin pedal profile positively affects ground clearance, foot stability, and pedaling efficiency; the thinner the body, the more positive these effects.

With new design freedom provided by the ZEROaxle bearing system, the MT-ZERO’s body is impressively thin at 7mm, and because the body platform is a dual concave design, which better adapts to the contours of the foot, it dips down to just 4mm in the center.

Although the MT-ZERO body is extremely thin and open, it’s neither flimsy nor fragile. The MT-ZERO’s body is a solid one-piece construction, investment-cast from chromoly steel, and tested to handle a wide spectrum of off-road applications from XC to all-mountain.

Fully Compatible with Standard Cranksets
The ZEROaxle MT-ZERO’s 9/16” thread makes it fully compatible with standard cranksets.

Aditionally, when designing the ZEROaxle pedal system, Tioga engineers were mindful not to disrupt the rider’s biomechanics. Width of the ZEROaxle bolt is comparable to the axle bolt on conventional platform pedals that upgrading to the MT-ZERO will have little impact on the user’s Q-factor, the distance between a rider’s left and right foot, measured through the bottom bracket.

Maintenance Free, Modular Design
The ZEROaxle pedal system is modular and designed to be virtually maintenance free. Should the bearing wear down, simply replace the ZEROaxle bolt. The same applies to the body. Replacement ZEROaxle bolt and MT-ZERO body are available individually, in left or right configurations. Its modular design will also allow users to easily switch different body designs from any current and future ZEROaxle pedals.

Pricing and Availability
The ZEROaxle MT-ZERO will be available within the next 60 days through professional, independent bicycle dealers nationwide. The pedals will be available in black, white or silver, for a suggested retail price of US$99.

ZEROaxle MT-ZERO
Investment cast 1-piece Chromoly body
ZEROaxle over-size bearing system
Dual-concave platform with replaceable pins
450g per pair

About Tioga:
With over 30 years in the cycling industry focusing on function with style, Tioga has created numerous industry advancing components from the Comp-III BMX racing tire to the industry standardization of the 1-1/8” steering system. Tioga’s new generation of components continue to blend progressive style with increasing functionally to enhance the riding experience of modern cycling enthusiasts.

Source: Kai Cheng, Tioga Bicycle Components
www.tiogausa.com
 
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trib

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Jun 22, 2009
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scary thin. Will be interesting to see how long they last.
 
BikeMike

BikeMike

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Feb 24, 2006
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The MT-ZERO is reminiscent of the FlyPaper pedals that generated a lot of interest (but not much product). But the Tiogas look like they have standard pedal threads for regular cranks.
 
'size

'size

Turbo Monkey
May 30, 2007
2,000
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BikeMike said:
The MT-ZERO is reminiscent of the FlyPaper pedals that generated a lot of interest (but not much product). But the Tiogas look like they have standard pedal threads for regular cranks.
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"Fully Compatible with Standard Cranksets
The ZEROaxle MT-ZERO’s 9/16” thread makes it fully compatible with standard cranksets."

i'm not clearly seeing how the platform attaches to the bearing bolt though. it seems it would have to be threaded to keep from having any kind of play but i don't see any threads on the inside of the bearing bolt and they don't show the platform on its own. and how do you thread into a spinning bearing? i am admittedly a little bit of a 'tard when it comes to figuring these things out though...

another pic.
 
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