New bars 780mm wide

norbar · Aug 7, 2011

Nuke proof bars do bend. They are not the most durable bars on the market. Im not sure what they are made from (what series alu). Id also stay away from spanks. Same problem.

IF you want something cheaper go with dartmoor nitro. They just came to the uk this year and their 7075 is pretty durable. Some really fast guys tested them as well as some nutty slope guys and nothing happened during that period. Most people who use them here are happy with them. Didnt see any complaints.

rayhaan · Aug 7, 2011

The new Renthal bars are awesome! Although I do like the Sunline V1 handlebars as well. sorry I just realised the Sunline bars aren't 780mm wide.

My first recommendation still stands though of the Renthal Fatbar.

no skid marks · Aug 7, 2011

I'm changing my heavy Gravity bars(I guess strong), for much lighter Diety Black Labels, not sure on their strength, but they're hella light, I'll put em on my trail bike(cut down) after a year of DH.

roel_koel · Aug 7, 2011

well the great news is that Renthal now sell all their bars in 780mm width, to allow the rider to choose the height they want, and then trim the width to suit

if you want the best, I'd highly recommend Renthal

these bars are British made in their own leading-tech production facility, and draw on the strictest quality control and years of motorcross experience

most handlebars are made by several factories in taiwan, with the "brand" doing little more than specifying the design and materials - even Easton have their bars made in TW and China (Carbon Fibre) by outside vendors

Renthal are very different in this respect, and having broken several handlebars in the past, I do not trust any other manufacturer than Renthal for my bars

jackalope · Aug 7, 2011

I'm sure the Renthals are nice, but I personally do not have a problem with "brands" having a Taiwanese factory make bars to their specs. With that in mind, I'm fond of my Race Face Atlas bars (785 mm actually) with their nice sweep and apparent ruggedness. I had 2 epic offs at Windrock several weeks ago with no damage to the bars (for whatever that means). Another good option would be Answers.

Udi · Aug 7, 2011

What's the weight on a Renthal 780?
I remember being put off by their ridiculous weight when they first brought out mtb bars, but maybe things have changed.

Edit - 363 grams, at least 50g more than it needs to be. I'd try a deity blacklabel or something.

climbingbubba · Aug 7, 2011

I have had my black labels for almost a year now and I am very impressed. I have had quite a few crashes. The last one my bars hit hard and it rotated the brake and shifter up on one side. This is with a DM stem as well. I have owned 4 deity bars now and all have been awesome and lighter than most other aluminum bars out there.

The Renthals do look plenty strong though if thats your main concern.

EVIL JN · Aug 7, 2011

The new odi flight control bars i think is feeling nice and with the wingtips its easy to change the with to try different setups. Pretty light but still feels as solid as my old deithy dirty 30.

rigidhack · Aug 7, 2011

I 'm running Answer Protapers @ 780mm and really like 'em. Very comfortable bar. Others to consider are the Race Face Atlas FR and the Chromag bars (although the Chromags are stupid expensive). I like the idea behind the extendable ODI's, but have no first hand experience.

EVIL JN · Aug 7, 2011

The wingtips on the odi works a treat, really nice to be able to swap between lengths. Only bad thing is that it is a pretty big gap from the stock length to how long the bar becomes with the shortest tips.

Manifesto · Aug 7, 2011

my blackspire 808's are rad as hell, but i did cut them down from 800-750.
those burgtec ridewider bars are sick too

UiUiUiUi · Aug 7, 2011

anbody already tried the ENVE Carbon Bars?

i am running answer protapers right now love them except for the color schemes ^^

another contender syntace bars very light and durable

nmpearson · Aug 7, 2011

Am I the only one that hates the answer pro-tapers? They feel awful compared to the black labels. We got a couple pairs in the shop, and couldn't give them away!! you put those up to the black labels and they're terrible.

ianjenn · Aug 7, 2011

nmpearson said:
Am I the only one that hates the answer pro-tapers?

YES!

Pro Tapers are pretty nice good bend good weight also!

SuspectDevice · Aug 7, 2011

Renthal bars are awesome. I've sold a pair to every one of my friends who've even pedaled any of my bikes down the hallway. I run them on everything now, even my 21 pound xc hardtail.
The bend is perfect no matter how you like to roll them and they have fantastic flex characteristics. I've worked with people who couldn't address the bars properly to save their lives. I bolt on a pair of the renthals, send them up the lift and they're amazed how much less fatigued they are. They seem to have more confidence from the reduced fatigue to start going a little quicker.
Sorry to be a buzzkill but anyone who cares enough about handlebar weight to discount a superlative product is a weenie. Bars are for steering, not for weighing.

p-spec · Aug 8, 2011

Wingtips

Nerf Herder · Aug 8, 2011

These are currently 750mm but there are plans of 780s in the near future.

http://www.kodex-racing.com/en/products/detail/bars/strut_bar/ few more colours now available too.

5year warranty has to tell you something about Kodex's level of confidence over the product. Not sure if there is a US distro, but I am the Oz & NZ guy.

People that haven't ridden them keep telling me that the sweep is too big 11deg back ... funny the people riding them actually love it *shrugs

Markus is a good bloke too ... a small company to watch IMO.

Curler · Aug 8, 2011

I'm running the ENVE bars right now and they are feel great. VERY light and wide. I'm running them at 800 right now but I am planning on cutting them down to 780.

Unfortunately someone at the race this last weekend broke their ENVE bars in a crash and split the grip right down the middle. That makes me question their durability.

numerik · Aug 8, 2011

Renthal Fatbar. Perfect. Stiffer and stronger than anything else.

no skid marks · Aug 8, 2011

If weight's not a concern(even though it'd be well over 50 gram saving using Black labels over Renthals I'd guess, and it is high weight on the bike that you're moving a lot)then check out the Gravities, gret strong bar as far as I know. I've known people using them for at least 2 full days a week for over a year without issues.

4130biker · Aug 8, 2011

How about these:

strong, reasonable weight, cheap, and they come in the best color for bars

nmpearson · Aug 8, 2011

ianjenn said:
YES!

Pro Tapers are pretty nice good bend good weight also!

good bend in what way...they feel like they're bending down. Not at all comfortable to me. I can't find a single person that likes them that have come into my shop

ianjenn · Aug 8, 2011

nmpearson said:
good bend in what way...they feel like they're bending down. Not at all comfortable to me. I can't find a single person that likes them that have come into my shop

Well guess I have been using them close to 10 years so used to them!!!

IH8Rice · Aug 8, 2011

ridea said:
Black labels look good but I cant find them for sale and in stock

what about the Dirty30's then?

atrokz · Aug 8, 2011

Nothing on Boobars? Really?

norbar · Aug 8, 2011

Weird angles.

btw. What do you think about k9 bars? They are pretty light. Both 780, one with adjustable length. Looks sweet to me.

buildyourown · Aug 8, 2011

roel_koel said:
these bars are British made in their own leading-tech production facility, and draw on the strictest quality control and years of motorcross experience

Source?

QBP lists country of origin as TW

p-spec · Aug 8, 2011

bdamschen · Aug 8, 2011

4130biker said:
How about these:

strong, reasonable weight, cheap, and they come in the best color for bars

I'd stay away from the Funn bars. Only bar I've ever snapped in an honest to goodness JRA. Lucky for me they busted while I was climbing up a short hill.

They didn't break anywhere normal like by the brake lever or where the stem clamps on. They broke right on the bend in the bars instead. Freaky.

phycoref · Aug 8, 2011

jimbojones239 said:
I compiled a fairly comprehensive spreadsheet of all the new wide bars on the market (partly in an effort to compare it's capabilities with Excel and partly inspired by the useful 2010 DH frame geo database on here a while back.)

I'd intended to use the neat google maps linking feature to display the location of origin directly from the cells (Easton US, Renthal UK etc.) but it quickly became apparent that the extrusion capability required of aluminium handlebar manufacture simply doesn't exist outside of Taiwan.

So I opted for the best tested after laying out all the specs all the weights real/claimed, lengths 740+ and rise <25mm, and comparison of the failure modes bending -as in the originator of this threads post - being preferable to shearing clean off.

Even though I've bought bars I'm not worried will dump me on my face I'd appreciate any feedback as I'd only one other person helping me on this mini project. Enjoy and feel free to add to the database, I'll open the permissions.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtFjUAhk_EXadFR4TXBqYkRZM2d0WEtSUVFITmRMc1E&hl=en_US&pli=1#gid=0

Props for the awesome bar spreadsheet!

I am running Raceface Atlas Fr's at the moment (in purple of course), they seem pretty solid, fairly aggressive angles I find though compared to the other bars I have, none nearly as wide though.

sethius · Aug 8, 2011

jimbojones239 said:
I compiled a fairly comprehensive spreadsheet of all the new wide bars on the market (partly in an effort to compare it's capabilities with Excel and partly inspired by the useful 2010 DH frame geo database on here a while back.)

I'd intended to use the neat google maps linking feature to display the location of origin directly from the cells (Easton US, Renthal UK etc.) but it quickly became apparent that the extrusion capability required of aluminium handlebar manufacture simply doesn't exist outside of Taiwan.

So I opted for the best tested after laying out all the specs all the weights real/claimed, lengths 740+ and rise <25mm, and comparison of the failure modes bending -as in the originator of this threads post - being preferable to shearing clean off.

Even though I've bought bars I'm not worried will dump me on my face I'd appreciate any feedback as I'd only one other person helping me on this mini project. Enjoy and feel free to add to the database, I'll open the permissions.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtFjUAhk_EXadFR4TXBqYkRZM2d0WEtSUVFITmRMc1E&hl=en_US&pli=1#gid=0

Added Reverse and Sixpack bars, and pic of the DM looks like the old Boogie low handlebar.

Matt 891 · Aug 8, 2011

nmpearson said:
Am I the only one that hates the answer pro-tapers? They feel awful compared to the black labels. We got a couple pairs in the shop, and couldn't give them away!! you put those up to the black labels and they're terrible.

I do not like my protapers either..

not near as comfortable as the funn fatboys on my FR bike

norbar · Aug 9, 2011

Good spreadsheet though I wouldnt judge bars by photos on pinkbike. One bar can bend first and break later. pb kids can really be stupid.
Also a proper strong 7075 bar will in most cases break than bend (can they bend at all) but are strong enough to take all but the worst crashes. Just swap them every 2 years as you do with other bars.

Nerf Herder · Aug 9, 2011

norbar said:
btw. What do you think about k9 bars? They are pretty light. Both 780, one with adjustable length. Looks sweet to me.

They are pretty flat with hardly any back sweep ... I'm still getting use to them especially after coming of the Kodex ... but yeah, pretty good.

Apparently will be a DIRT article on it with SJ pretty sold on them ... haven't seen the article yet.

disclaimer: I'm the K9 guy as well

norbar · Aug 9, 2011

Nerf Herder said:
They are pretty flat with hardly any back sweep ... I'm still getting use to them especially after coming of the Kodex ... but yeah, pretty good.

Apparently will be a DIRT article on it with SJ pretty sold on them ... haven't seen the article yet.

disclaimer: I'm the K9 guy as well

I want to go with the higher rise and adjustable width. Was a bit scared of very little backsweep on the other ones. These ones are 8.5 back so pretty standard.

4130biker · Aug 9, 2011

bdamschen said:
I'd stay away from the Funn bars. Only bar I've ever snapped in an honest to goodness JRA. Lucky for me they busted while I was climbing up a short hill.

They didn't break anywhere normal like by the brake lever or where the stem clamps on. They broke right on the bend in the bars instead. Freaky.

eeeeeehhh, scary! I suppose that points to a lack of quality control since I've seen a number of people ride them without problems.

That being said, I probably won't be on another set after hearing that.

bdamschen · Aug 9, 2011

4130biker said:
eeeeeehhh, scary! I suppose that points to a lack of quality control since I've seen a number of people ride them without problems.

That being said, I probably won't be on another set after hearing that.

Kind of sucked since they used to be my favorite bars and we had them on my wife's bike as well... so when one broke, I had to buy two.

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