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Coffee came out of my nose!
That's some topnotch coverage for someone claiming to be a news source for downhill racing.
At least he was halfway correct with the distance. But without the proper tools figuring distance is probably best left to professionals and law enforcement. I just come here for the on-point commentary and highest integrity.
I may pick on Fraser too much, but one thing I always give him credit for doing one thing:
His pics only get seen...if he gets paid!
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nice find.
what was he looking for? the rest of his bike?
Thats pretty funny Mr Lahey. Tell Randy I said hello.
I still can't believe an American just won the worldcup overall. I remember three years ago during Mt. St. Anne, Luke Stobel got a 18th and I was psyched. A USA rider just won the overall.
But hey, he didn't get bucked!
Brook is very professional, didn't call any attention to the bike.
So do we know if it was the linkage or the swingarm that broke? I'm interested purely from an engineering point of view, not interested in slander or ill feelings.
Brook is very professional, didn't call any attention to the bike.
So do we know if it was the linkage or the swingarm that broke? I'm interested purely from an engineering point of view, not interested in slander or ill feelings.
you cant see the bump in the video that caused a few people to get bucked a bit. including Brook on his Revolt.
DW said the flip chips were in the CF and not yet anchored with aluminum and thats where it sheared.
That's gold
If you listen brook says "was that big or what?" to the angry looking french guy then when he shakes his arms brook says "you don't think so?"
Classic brook.
Pity it had a fail but they will sort it.
And it looks like Fraser told the truth so back off .
The only info he left out was that brook did a huck and something failed.
Hahaha, didn't listen to it with the audio on before. I am now officially a Brook MacDonald fan.
It had nothing to do with fact or fiction. it was motivation, and it certainly wasn't journalistic integrity.
That landing sounded like nothing but pain (as far as the bike goes). His line at the end of that video is GOLD!
Dude, give it a rest already. It was complete fact and its proven by the video. Any motivation YOU determine is motivated by you and your own motivations. Get it?
Really? So journalistic integrity would be hiding facts to protect a corporate entity, right?
Stay in school, slugger.
Bickering is so mature.
The Revolt/Undead linkage system has to handle higher forces than most suspension systems due to its design. I wonder if Zink had the flip chips in his bike? Anyway, thanks for clearing up my lack of reading comprehension Blackohio...
The Revolt/Undead linkage system has to handle higher forces than most suspension systems due to its design. I wonder if Zink had the flip chips in his bike? Anyway, thanks for clearing up my lack of reading comprehension Blackohio...
Huh? The only thing resisting those forces is the spring & damping; the leverage rates aren't very high which suggests it uses the same springs & damping setups as other bikes for a certain rider & terrain. The only unique thing about it is that the leverage ratio changes through the travel but this doesn't massively influence what spring is needed for a certain rider on certain terrain.
It will see the same forces in the same areas as any other single pivot with a linkage driven shock.
I can't think of a single bike who's leverage ratio does not change through it's travel.
The linkage system has to deal with higher forces than most suspension systems due to the extensive hate on the internet regarding it's last iteration.
And if you piss it off, it will buck you!!
The ratio change is different to others, how much of a difference this makes to traction & performance you'd have to ask DW I imagine.I can't think of a single bike who's leverage ratio does not change through it's travel.
The forces in the linkage certainly are higher in the Revolt/Undead linkage. I'm not talking about the leverage rate of the rear wheel or the spring force at the shock, I'm talking about forces acting on all the gubbins in between. Each little link has a force acting on it, and depending on how the linkage is designed, those forces may be not much more than the spring force itself, or they may be several magnitudes larger. Such is the case with this design, which is why they had some hardware failures in the Revolt and have decided to go with double shear clevises now.
It's nothing that can't be designed around, and it certainly doesn't take away from the function of the bike (unless it fails!).
I don't hate this bike at all by the way, I think the overall design is great. But it's only as good as it lasts...
Now that the Undead has only one linkage actuating the shock, it seems to have become more similar to every other linkage-ified single pivot. I wonder what makes DELTA (tm) (R)? Shame they couldn't stick with the lower linkage to keep the COG low, but I trust they know more than I do! 
I have a funny feeling this might be in the wrong thread.
I have a funny feeling this might be in the wrong thread.
the Revolt only had "one linkage" driving the shock, unless you call the swingarm linkage. the DELTA just looks tweaked on the Undead and has the shock mounted on the main frame now instead of the swingarm
Revolt:
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Thanks for the clarification! I thought the revolt had a 2nd linkage driving it from the other side.
Booooooosh!Really? So journalistic integrity would be hiding facts to protect a corporate entity, right?
Stay in school, slugger.
Slugger.
Gold.
TM refers to trademark, and R means it's a registered trademark. It has nothing to do with whether the design itself is unique or patented, it just protects the branding.Now that the Undead has only one linkage actuating the shock, it seems to have become more similar to every other linkage-ified single pivot. I wonder what makes DELTA (tm) (R)? Shame they couldn't stick with the lower linkage to keep the COG low, but I trust they know more than I do!
I have a funny feeling this might be in the wrong thread.
the Revolt only had "one linkage" driving the shock, unless you call the swingarm linkage. the DELTA just looks tweaked on the Undead and has the shock mounted on the main frame now instead of the swingarm
Revolt:
Such good memories with that photo !!!
That was my bike back in 09/10. Now it's going to be replaced by an Undead for warranty
i grabbed it from the Revolt thread since i didnt have any pics of the lower shock mount on any of mine.
you broke yours too? i hope you arent holding your breath for the replacement anytime soon.
I sold mine when I noticed everyone's revolt were breaking.... But I sold it with no cracks at all.... The guy who bought it, broke it and is waiting for the replacement
I now have a makulu.... I'll be more than happy to get the undead.... I really loved the revolt performance....
That's a pretty professional reaction from Brook there. No fuss, no fanfare, not bike chucking.
Hats off to that rider.
they are honoring the warranty even though hes not the original owner?
They probably won't now....
What is there to fuss about? He didn't pay for it, will get another, and gets paid to ride in amazing places.
From one company with ghost ownership to the next. I will not be asking for stock advice from you.
haha that's greatFrom one company with ghost ownership to the next. I will not be asking for stock advice from you.
Hahaha. Seems that the new owner talked straight to evil, and they told him he'll just need the original invoice...From one company with ghost ownership to the next. I will not be asking for stock advice from you.