Converting 2010 Boxxer Race to Mission Control

Just press out that steel insert.

On my boxxer race the insert came out when I rebuilt the fork the first time.

into the lowers its a tophat spacer

This isnt it but you get the idea

It should be as easy as just looking at it to determine if its on the inside or out. I dont have a boxxer but it cant be that tough to just look at it.

It's inside the lowers. You tap it from the bottom and turn the lowers upside down to get it out.

If you aren't comfortable working on your fork, pay your lbs to have it done.
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92SE-R said:

I got some Mission Control comp/reb dampers to drop in my 2010 Boxxer Race. Compression fits perfect. On Rebound, I noticed the hole is too small. Some have said there's a pressed in insert. How have you guys gotten this out? Thanks!

It's been pouring here and I haven't been able to ride it, but I frankensteined it with MICO compression damper with old MOCO rebound damper, and it actually felt significantly plusher than the stock MOCO compression damper on my curb/stair test. can't wait to get the dual flow rebound in too. The MOCO rebound unit looks flimsy compared to it.

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It'll feel significantly plusher because the Moco rebound shaft (the bit that actually displaces oil through the compression assembly) is ~12.5mm (might be 12.7mm/0.5", I forget) diameter, vs the 19 or 20mm (forget which) diameter Mico rebound shaft - when you put the new rebound system in it'll feel very different. Right now you will have hardly any compression damping, hence it feeling plusher when you smack it into a curb, but you will get literally 2.5x the compression damping when you put the new rebound assembly in.

So for people struggling to get full travel (even with the elastomer fully removed) a race rebound damper and team compression damper might be a good idea?

OP, where did you get hold of the dampers? Just through local distro?

yetihenry said:

So for people struggling to get full travel (even with the elastomer fully removed) a race rebound damper and team compression damper might be a good idea?

OP, where did you get hold of the dampers? Just through local distro?

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If you're struggling to get full travel with the dropstop removed and the compression damping backed right off (at which point it really is SFA anyway), try burping air out of the lowers on the damper side via the footbolt. If you still can't ever bottom it out then chances are your spring is quite a bit stiffer than it should be.

yetihenry said:

So for people struggling to get full travel (even with the elastomer fully removed) a race rebound damper and team compression damper might be a good idea?

OP, where did you get hold of the dampers? Just through local distro?

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Why buy a Team damper when it doesn't ever get used. Just remove the outer o-rings on your Race MCU and your get the plushest-eva-omfg-these-shox-rule sensation. For free.

miuan said:

Why buy a Team damper when it doesn't ever get used. Just remove the outer o-rings on your Race MCU and your get the plushest-eva-omfg-these-shox-rule sensation. For free.

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Even easier, you can just unclip the entire compression piston from the tube. Takes about 10 seconds once you've pulled the compression assembly out of the stanchion, and it saves you having that happen later on when the POS decides to unclip itself without your permission, jam sideways in your stanchion and damage both your stanchion AND rebound assembly as well. Unfortunately I've seen this happen many times (demo fleet this summer had those forks), and given how crude the compression assembly is anyway, most people prefer the feel of the fork with that piston entirely removed.

?????

Really? That sounds like crazy talk to me.

yetihenry said:

So for people struggling to get full travel (even with the elastomer fully removed) a race rebound damper and team compression damper might be a good idea?

OP, where did you get hold of the dampers? Just through local distro?

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It was mine, the Avalanche takes all the guts out of the damper side so it was just sitting here. So cost of avy kit minus this !!!! Wooohooo Im reducing the cost of the kit...

rockofullr said:

?????

Really? That sounds like crazy talk to me.

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No joke man. The compression assemblies in the Race are pretty much garbage, everything about them is pretty cheaply made, and it honestly strikes me as something that was designed by somebody who didn't really have a specific idea of what he wanted the thing to do. Out of our rental fleet of ~15 bikes all with those forks, I would say that in 3 months of more or less daily use, I personally saw about half of them blow the compression piston out of the comp assembly because it's only clipped in with a little piece of plastic. The usual result of this was the piston jamming sideways in the stanchion and creating a hard stop that felt like bottom out, halfway through the travel when it was hit by the rebound piston. We pulled heaps of them out altogether and most people preferred the ride that way anyway (which is probably a lot to do with the type of people who typically rent DH bikes, not the more experienced/picky riders who tend to prefer setups with more comp damping).

If you're picky about your damping setup, unfortunately the Race is not the fork for you (unless you're only buying it to stick an aftermarket cart in).

Your talking about damper oil but if you are low on the 15w oil in the bottom of the lowers the your rebound will act like what your describing.
The Team/WC has 10ml of 15w oil on that side of the fork.

92SE-R said:

thats lower lubricating oil. i fail to see how that even affects the rebound. that 15w oil cant get into the rebound damper.

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I hear ya i'm just posting up a similiar experience. My friends WC rebound stopped adjusting on our last trip. I opened the lowers and that side was dry. When i put 10mls back it was fine again.
I know that the rebound piston is up in the 5m oil with the compression cart i'm just saying how it worked out for him.

92SE-R said:

weird. well, i guess its worth a shot. weird. i wonder if its the act of reinstalling the nut/adjuster. the thing seemed kinda jenky and i can see why rockshox redid the 2011 version. i wonder if somemthing was misaligned when i put it together. im still very confused

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Did you ever get this sorted out? Where did you get the comp. cart.?

I ask because my Bro just bought a rig with a 2010 Race and I'd like to upgrade it for him.

Thanks,

J

Question for SRAM/Boxxer experts.

How much can I expect to pay for the compression/Mission Control assembly when upgrading a 2010 Race to a Team, ballpark? I have the rebound cart..

Thanks,

J

92SE-R said:

basically, the rebound is set at the limit of its adjustment, but it feels perfect where it is. so i'll just leave it as is. took it on an awesome trail today, and its definitely making my rear end feel like crap. super plush compared to moco with no brake dive on the steeps. great upgrade.

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sry to revive an old thread...but i'm picking up a boxxer rc tmro for dirt cheap, and looking to either swap the r2c2 guts into it, or an avy cart.

was your problem w/ the rebound ever figured out (if so, how), or was it even a problem to begin with, and it just performed as it should?

One slight adjustment you can do to the stock race mcu is drill the 3 holes in the bottom out to 3mm.
Still nowhere as good as a team unit, but much better than stock. Adn would in all likelyhood stop them from blowing apart so easily if you have that problem