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2011 World Championships: Champery

karpi

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nigel page balances out warner quite well I think, whitely is good, just way to methodical, Nigel gets the right balance with knowing his history and knowing what its like to ride, that paired with Warner is pretty spot on!
 

boylagz

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Jul 12, 2011
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Werd. Nigel is pretty cool. Both him and Warner have different flavors commentating, both certainly entertaining.
I surely hope they'll still be around next year. I can't wait for next season!
 

aanon

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Nov 21, 2008
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F#ck Warner is funny, love his commentary.
Wow, Danny Hart, what a pinned run, that was amazing.
TB, junior champ again with a time that would have put him 2nd in elite, mad.
Roll on next year i say, a new level of riding has been thrown down.
 

monkeyfcuker

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May 26, 2008
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No-one think this is noteworthy?? He keeps his feet up almost the whole way down and when he does dab you can see him clearly unclip for it.
I was giving this some thought today, it seems we've come full circle from the (very tired) clips/flats debate, I've always thought of clipped in riders as being very precise riders, obviously pinned but not loose, think Minaar/Peaty. Then the likes of Hill/Kovarick/Rennie are obvious flat pedal riders exploding berms and generally riding like they've stole it. Now we have two world champs that are loose as fook, clipped in and just absolutely pinned! Awesome stuff!
 

Banga

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Sep 7, 2001
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I was giving this some thought today, it seems we've come full circle from the (very tired) clips/flats debate, I've always thought of clipped in riders as being very precise riders, obviously pinned but not loose, think Minaar/Peaty. Then the likes of Hill/Kovarick/Rennie are obvious flat pedal riders exploding berms and generally riding like they've stole it. Now we have two world champs that are loose as fook, clipped in and just absolutely pinned! Awesome stuff!
I think its more to do with their size, both have been riding for years and started when they were midgets (no offense intended). If they rode the same way on flats they would be getting ejected every second turn/root/rock, rather than by choice it was more likely by necessity that they started on clips and its worked ever since.
 

Gary

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Aug 27, 2002
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I was giving this some thought today, it seems we've come full circle from the (very tired) clips/flats debate, I've always thought of clipped in riders as being very precise riders, obviously pinned but not loose, think Minaar/Peaty. Then the likes of Hill/Kovarick/Rennie are obvious flat pedal riders exploding berms and generally riding like they've stole it. Now we have two world champs that are loose as fook, clipped in and just absolutely pinned! Awesome stuff!
you probably won't remember Warner's style way back, he was one of very few flat pedal riders to do well at WC level then, Pascal being the other main one both were amazing mud riders and both had the goofiest looking foot position and pedalling styles going but Rob was a much more precise (not loose) feet up rider than any flat pedal rider seems to be these days.
 

Mo(n)arch

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Dec 27, 2010
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Dannys run was just pure crazieness. I mean on the jumps he looked like he was doing some bikepark session.
The real whip off worlds...
Hats off for the new world champ!

On another note:
It are the really technical steep tracks where we can see absolutely legendary runs from those guys. So please: More tracks like Vds and Champery!
 
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monkeyfcuker

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May 26, 2008
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you probably won't remember Warner's style way back, he was one of very few flat pedal riders to do well at WC level then, Pascal being the other main one both were amazing mud riders and both had the goofiest looking foot position and pedalling styles going but Rob was a much more precise (not loose) feet up rider than any flat pedal rider seems to be these days.
Nah, must be before my time, can't ever remember seeing any footage of Warner. A few pics here and there but not a great deal.
 

epic

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Sep 15, 2008
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Nigel Page and Martin Whitely sound nothing alike, but you seem to have them confused.
No I don't. People were bitching about Nigel after La Bresse when Rob was away. I like him and Whitely both. You really couldn't confuse the two.
 

bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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Hart seemed like the only rider to hold control top to bottom. I give him props for mentioning Gwin at the end. You could tell he wanted to beat him on time, not by an error. That's being competitive.

Bummed for Gwin. I've always hated bridges on DH courses. I know they're needed sometimes, but they always seem to suck a wheel off course in the wrong place. Doesn't help that they are usually the most treacherous part of a course too and always slicker than glass.

Things not mentioned:
1. Hill had only been on his bike that weekend other than a few XC riders per the interviews. Stunning.
2. Gee had scrambled eggs for brains and had skipped the last day of practice
3. Blenki was getting close a stunner run.
4. Bryceland's off was sickening! Hope he's OK.
5. Hart's line off that one bank he straight lined was Jedi (not the huck one only he did)
6. Gwin was actually on pace and it SUCKS that we didn't get to see at least a time from him!!!!
 

epic

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Sep 15, 2008
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I felt really bad for Gee. I'll bet nobody wanted to get out of there more than him.
 

Gary

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6. his time was 4:02.4 all his splits were slower than harts, not just the one he where he crashed
 

General Lee

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Oct 16, 2003
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Hart seemed like the only rider to hold control top to bottom. I give him props for mentioning Gwin at the end. You could tell he wanted to beat him on time, not by an error. That's being competitive.

Bummed for Gwin. I've always hated bridges on DH courses. I know they're needed sometimes, but they always seem to suck a wheel off course in the wrong place. Doesn't help that they are usually the most treacherous part of a course too and always slicker than glass.
Gwin didn't make it to the bridge, he rode off the course before he got to it.
 

zdubyadubya

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Apr 13, 2008
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Here is something that I found interesting...

Sam Hill 7th
Minnaar 8th
Fabien 10th
Peat 17th
Hannah 39th
Riffle 42nd
Gee 52nd

The old school guys got pounded by this track. Its safe to say Hill is back on form. Gwins 12th is not too shabby considering it took him FOREVER to get his bike out of the netting. And freakin Mitch Ropelato was 2nd fastest through the speed trap! Thats something to be stoked on for him!
 

alpine slug

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Jun 10, 2011
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Those who see the world only as Old School vs New School are missing most of the world.

"New School" Ropelato got 72d. I'd say he got spanked by the course, despite his New School Pump Track Flow Trail Progressing the Sport chops.

The only school that's ever the Winning School is skills plus confidence plus calmness plus fun. Anyone can possess those things on any given day.
 

zdubyadubya

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Apr 13, 2008
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Those who see the world only as Old School vs New School are missing most of the world.

"New School" Ropelato got 72d. I'd say he got spanked by the course, despite his New School Pump Track Flow Trail Progressing the Sport chops.

The only school that's ever the Winning School is skills plus confidence plus calmness plus fun. Anyone can possess those things on any given day.
you take things too seriously. i meant it more in the sense of young gunners vs. veteran racers. not necessarily riding style.
 

bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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Blenkinsop has miles of style and is generally quite consistent (barring the injury this year). Very glad to see him pick up the bronze here.
And yet even if he'd not bobbled, he'd have still gotten blasted by maybe 8 seconds. Pretty scary to think Hart was still that much faster.

6. his time was 4:02.4 all his splits were slower than harts, not just the one he where he crashed
I'm saying I just wanted to see how his run would have compared. Did not imply he was "Gwinning". Less than a second off Hart and a boatload ahead of everyone else makes me want to see a full run from him that much more to see just how mean Hart's run was. :D

Gwin didn't make it to the bridge, he rode off the course before he got to it.
And you and I both know what it's like to ride right at a bridge at full speed with any hesitation. You could let me choose a piece of muddy singletrack or slab of greasy bridge twice it's width between me and a shark pool at 40 mph and I'd still pick the singletrack.

Bridges have some sort of reverse polarity to rubber.;)
 

jackalope

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6. his time was 4:02.4 all his splits were slower than harts, not just the one he where he crashed
I wasn't able to watch all of Gwin's run, but I thought that while he was slower at the top splits, he was only about a second off when he crashed. Point being, I think Hart was still going to win, but I think Gwin was going to make it very interesting if he stayed up.

Regardless, Hart's runs at VDS and now Champ make him the best rider to watch on the circuit.
 
Here is something that I found interesting...

Sam Hill 7th
Minnaar 8th
Fabien 10th
Peat 17th
Hannah 39th
Riffle 42nd
Gee 52nd

The old school guys got pounded by this track. Its safe to say Hill is back on form. Gwins 12th is not too shabby considering it took him FOREVER to get his bike out of the netting. And freakin Mitch Ropelato was 2nd fastest through the speed trap! Thats something to be stoked on for him!
ah Pascal 5th! he's pretty old school in my book.
 

WParsons

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Mar 19, 2011
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Old School got spanked? umm... Pascal? He was racing before I started racing back at the turn of the last century.

But yea, we are witnessing a changing of the guard. You'll see some good results from the regulars but for the most part the younger guys are taking over.