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HAB

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My 4 year old iPod seems destined for imminent failure. Earlier today it decided it had no music on it at all after I hooked it up to my computer to put some more on, and now as I'm trying to refill it, after restoring it to factory settings the hard drive is making a LOT of noise. Doesn't seem good. If/when it goes, any thoughts on what I should get? Not at all attached to Apple, I just want something that works and has a lot of memory. I've got a 110+ GB music collection, if I can't carry ALL of it with me that's ok but I want say 60 GB minimum. Don't really care about it doing anything else, like videos or wifi or anything. I just want something that plays music.
 

stevew

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the more music/movies i put on my ipod....the noisier it gets.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
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the more music/movies i put on my ipod....the noisier it gets.
It's having real problems, it got as far as the middle of the Cs and now it's not letting me put anything else on. Seems pretty properly fvcked.



I was looking at that Cowan, looks kinda cool but I'm not sure how I feel about a resistive touch screen. People seem to like it though, I'll see if I can find one to play with before I buy.
 

jonKranked

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I dont know why companies bother with resistive touchscreens anymore. Total crap.

Per our discussion a few minutes ago, get a smartphone
 

pZyteX

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I dont know why companies bother with resistive touchscreens anymore. Total crap.

Per our discussion a few minutes ago, get a smartphone
Cause they are cheap.

Also smartphone indeed, what with spotify, google music, amazon, itunes match etc.. there's no reason to have a big mp3 player anymore.
 

RaindogT

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My first thoughts were Sansa or android.

Most androids will only support up to 32 g. SD cards, though. Sandisk builds expansion slots (SD card slots) into just about all of their players--- you could get closer to your 60 G. goal.

Although I :eek: at 60 g. of music to carry around. I personally have about 20 on my player (which stays in my car), and only about 10 on my droid, and I've never had a music itch that couldn't be scratched.... (On my media server at home, I have about 80 gigs of music-- never felt the need to have all of it with me at any given time.)
 

HardtailHack

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Ooh the Cowan is resistive, sorry about that, my Creative is resistive and that part of it is fine it's just the rest of the player that sucks. Tiny volume control, difficult to navigate and if you insert a memory card it takes up to 5mins to read it every time you want to use the card, also you can't create playlists, pure poo!

My Toshiba Meu's are the best players ever, 2gb, FM transmitter/tuner, cheap and super easy to use, I bought three. One for alternative and one for electronic the other got washed and no longer works, I also have a Toshiba S60 but the battery life on that has always been crap.

A lot of HD MP3 players will accept a bigger hard drive if you feel adventurous.
 
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Ciaran

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Heh, I'm still using my old 8gig Creative Zen and my 30 gig Zen V.

I hate smartphones, won't use one for my music.

As for new MP3 player, my wife loves her Zune.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
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So as jK was saying, I've also had the thought that, if I'm going to be buying something expensive anyway, why not make it a smartphone and integrate everything? Not set on that idea, but it's on the table. So if I go that route, thoughts on an appropriate Verizon phone?
 

binary visions

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You won't get 60gb from many smartphones. 32gb Micro SD cards are around so that's easy. The new Bionic has an additional 8gb of internal storage you can use, so it's up to 40gb there...

However, with Pandora/Google Music/Spotify/etc., there are streaming services that can take the place of giant music collections.

I only want to carry one piece of electronics, so for me, a smartphone is the answer.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
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You won't get 60gb from many smartphones. 32gb Micro SD cards are around so that's easy. The new Bionic has an additional 8gb of internal storage you can use, so it's up to 40gb there...

However, with Pandora/Google Music/Spotify/etc., there are streaming services that can take the place of giant music collections.

I only want to carry one piece of electronics, so for me, a smartphone is the answer.
Yeah I know getting to 60 is hard with a phone. If I have ~40 and interwebs that's fine.

To expound on what I'd want in a phone:
-Verizon
-Not an iPhone
-Don't need a physical keyboard
-Don't need a ton of features. I'll use it to surf the web, check email, play music, maybe some gps, and that's about it.
-Stability, reliability, and battery life are priorities
-Screen size not super important, nor is physical size. I don't want anything stupid huge but it doesn't need to be especially small or light.
 

HAB

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Reason for "not an iPhone"?
Had one while I was in Australia. Did not like. Granted it was a 3G, so not their newest, but I'm not too big a fan of the interface, it was buggy as fvck, absolute crap at being a phone (seriously, it dropped probably close to half the calls I tried to make with it) etc.
 

binary visions

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VZW iPhone seems to not be bad with dropped calls, and my experience is the software is LESS buggy than Android. The 3G was much more buggy than my 3GS.

I ask because there's a strong possibility the next iPhone release will have a 64gb model, and it's probably the simplest "get out of my way and just let me browse the web, listen to music and make calls" device.

I'm a big Android advocate, but it's much more like owning a small computer than an iPhone is.
 

HAB

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Ok, if you think it's gotten better in those regards I'm willing to listen. My experience with the 3G kinda soured me on it but not so badly so I'm not even willing to consider it I guess.

I am guessing a 64gb iPhone is likely going to be comparatively expensive, though. Agree? I'm also not too hung up on keeping things simple, it's not like I'm some computer illiterate senior citizen who's going to be confused with an Android phone. I might not use some of the functionality that often but having it there isn't too likely to bother me.

Thoughts on Windows?
 

binary visions

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I haven't used the Windows Phones much but a coworker has one and it's a damn slick interface and UI. I really, really liked it. Would seriously have considered a Windows Phone if they were where they are now, back when I was buying my Droid X.

BTW, "being able" to operate the device or getting confused doesn't enter into it. It's not about being capable. It's about what you want from your device. And you were very clear that you wanted some simple things from your phone. My dad is the director of IT for a very large company and is a pretty technical guy but I recommended he get an iPhone because that was going to suit him best.
 

HAB

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Fair enough. The more I read the more I think that an iPhone might actually do what I want best, and it does sound like they've addressed some of the gripes I had with the older one.
 

narlus

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However, with Pandora/Google Music/Spotify/etc., there are streaming services that can take the place of giant music collections.

I only want to carry one piece of electronics, so for me, a smartphone is the answer.
i am leaning more and more towards this option, esp since i believe you can stream your local files via Spotify as well.
 

woodsguy

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I haven't used the Windows Phones much but a coworker has one and it's a damn slick interface and UI. I really, really liked it. Would seriously have considered a Windows Phone if they were where they are now, back when I was buying my Droid X.
The wife and I are really enjoying our WP7s. WP7 is the easiest to use, most stable, and doesn't have the millions of malware threats of Android.

It comes loaded with Zune which is a really slick music player. My Samsung Focus has 8gb of storage with a slot for 32gb micro sd card. And soon you will be able to stream your music from skydrive. But as others have said the online services are awesome. Personally, I like Last.fm.

Oh, and the camera is awesome.

Jump to 9:10 for a little about Zune.
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w00dy

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Yeah I know getting to 60 is hard with a phone. If I have ~40 and interwebs that's fine.

To expound on what I'd want in a phone:
-Verizon
-Not an iPhone
-Don't need a physical keyboard
-Don't need a ton of features. I'll use it to surf the web, check email, play music, maybe some gps, and that's about it.
-Stability, reliability, and battery life are priorities
-Screen size not super important, nor is physical size. I don't want anything stupid huge but it doesn't need to be especially small or light.
I've had good luck with my LG Ally. It's a year old now, so there's probably something faster and better around. Fits your criteria though.
 

stevew

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It's having real problems, it got as far as the middle of the Cs and now it's not letting me put anything else on. Seems pretty properly fvcked.
as long as i keep it updated....if i don't....disc mode/reset time.
 

mandown

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From mp3 to smartphone? You ready for the extra $30+tax per month just to get a data plan plus the $10 a month to add Spotify if you like? As others noted, you won't get the same amount of memory on a phone, and if you buy a newer model Verizon, the contract price can still be $200. That is a huge expense outlay to get a new mp3 player. Granted, you won't need one, and a Spotify subscription may end up being cheaper than your existing CD/mp3 purchasing habit.

Just making sure you go with the right hardware for the right reasons.

Btw, I do have a cost bias toward Android phones because you get the voice feature in their navigation app for free as part of the Android platform. With Windows or Apple phones, you have to pay a fee to Verizon. A non-issue for those with nav systems, or those who don't care.
 

mandown

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Almost forgot, the days of unlimited data stream plans are gone, so running a heavy music stream could add some cost, depending on the data rate and the terms of the plan you get.
 

mandown

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one more thought just popped up. Android allows for tethering without paying the mobile-hot-spot fee. Windows and iPhone don't. Or, that was the case unless something changed.
 

BIGHITR

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Wait for it. The new iPhone is being released in October. Or if you're a cheap skate, you do know you can buy brand new iPod replacement hard drive for around $35 bucks.
 
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woodsguy

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Windows Phone 7.5 has voice navigation built in. It does tethering but the carriers made them turn it off. There is a work around tho.

A 2gb ($25) plan is good for about 70 hours of streaming music a month. For me I usually top out at 500mb a month for everything else so that leaves about 55 hours for streaming music. Plus, there are hot spots everywhere. AT&T has free wifi at B&N, Starbucks, McD's, hotels, airports, etc. Even the commuter rail trains here in Boston have free at&t wifi. I was across the street from a McD's once and got a strong signal.
 
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binary visions

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one more thought just popped up. Android allows for tethering without paying the mobile-hot-spot fee. Windows and iPhone don't. Or, that was the case unless something changed.
Not exactly. The stock firmware on virtually all of the Android phones has tethering turned off. SOME of the phones, you can root or work around. However, VZW and ATT have been cracking down on unpaid tethering.

Anyway... it's possible on some phones with some techniques, but not all phones and not all of it is easy.